Is communism good on paper?

[🌠Deusgo]

Clearly it don’t work in humans, the person at the top tends to be a ♥♥♥♥ bag, but with another civilisation, that of robots per say, without greed or the need to hate see it fruitful?

[sleeps]

that's about it. on paper. in practice however, what we got so far is either becoming center left (ie social democrat which tends to be very capitalistic with strong social programs, scandivanians) or functionally fascist/corporate (china)

[Reddari]

It does work. It works so good that the concept of communism has been completely corrupted in the minds of men. You may call it a sort of necessary evil.

If we treat the states that are presented as communists as true communists then it logically follows that the human people are NOT part of the community. They are under communism but not IN communism. So the claim that these states are communist may be true from a certain point of view - If you know that nations are not run by men, but by non-human beings that parasite mankind. It is their community we talking about - not a community of man.

[qb]

i think people put too much weight into random things, because its not actial thing, ever wonder if its just another thing like market economy which doesnt actually exist anywhere. people call things what they really arent. we call democracy what it isnt that is on paper everything sounds better than it is. its a utopia in peoples heads while it really is goes down to hell when anything is applied in practice.

[sleeps]

plus, greed still exists under communism. kim jong un is fat while other north koreans live in poor environment. idk what's the talking point of conflating capitalism with greed. where did that come from? i thought the talking point of communism is about exploitation of the workers, not greed.

[steven1mac]

If all men were saints and everyone worked equal hard as everyone else, it might work. However people are not, instead they are looking for the easy way, so some are saddled with extra work to compensate for the lazy and corrupt ones.

[miakisfan]

Let me make a football reference here.

I always hear this team should beat that team on paper but the old saying is that is why they play the game on Sunday.

Any system would probably work IF everyone was an honest human being. There is the rub. Not everyone will play fairly.

Same thing with capitalism. It is a great system until greed is injected into the equation.

You want to fix a lot of the issues in the U.S. for example? Stop George Soros from buying elections for starters. He just looks like a mob boss more than a human being putting inept District Attorneys in positions of power.

He has turned the cities where he has placed incompetent D.A.s into breeding grounds for criminal behavior.

I think a person like him would thrive under a communistic society. No wonder he's a Liberal. That is their desire.

[sleeps]

my point is that we are greedy in one way or another. if you have enough power to maintain the production, you have great responsibility with it. greed kills and the reason why someone greedy is on the life support is because of the support of someone else, namely the government.

the best part about capitalism in theory is that if a means of production fails in one party, that's about it and others may take over even if that means the president or ceo will become poor or in worst scenario, in jail because of textbook definition of greed.

but of course, the government is there for the sole purpose to keep the dying industry alive because they're big and have tons of money. oh what happened to america.

[Xero_Daxter]

Isn’t everyone equal when it comes to communism? If he gets a slice of pizza then I get a slice of pizza. If he gets a PlayStation 5 then I get a PlayStation 5.

[🌠Deusgo]

Първоначално публикувано от Xero_Daxter:

Isn’t everyone equal when it comes to communism? If he gets a slice of pizza then I get a slice of pizza. If he gets a PlayStation 5 then I get a PlayStation 5.

I believe so

[sleeps]

Първоначално публикувано от Xero_Daxter:

Isn’t everyone equal when it comes to communism? If he gets a slice of pizza then I get a slice of pizza. If he gets a PlayStation 5 then I get a PlayStation 5.

communism is when playstation 5. better yet, ps5 PRO

[Xero_Daxter]

Първоначално публикувано от Deusgo:

Първоначално публикувано от Xero_Daxter:

Isn’t everyone equal when it comes to communism? If he gets a slice of pizza then I get a slice of pizza. If he gets a PlayStation 5 then I get a PlayStation 5.

I believe so

You can’t complain about inequality when everyone is equally worthless. *snarky laugh*

[sleeps]

Първоначално публикувано от Xero_Daxter:

Първоначално публикувано от Deusgo:

I believe so

You can’t complain about inequality when everyone is equally worthless. *snarky laugh*

pol pot approves.

[Puggly the Grey]

Well, dis is how I’ve heard it explained;
https://youtu.be/l3TvORNCMfw?si=7_xA325XLupHnf3b

[talemore]

On paper it's a good thing to have security.

In practice we only seek community when we are vulnerable.

That is why people around communites are easy manipulated.

It is as such after world war one, the Europe civilization was shattered and people lost hope.

As such with no hope the great depression happened as people lost hope on humanity.
Companies hired people from Russia to work in their factories as the worker was paid by Russia.

Unions were made to blockade the communists from taking the jobs.

When the union was created they became worker's army and was shot by the military.

The germany in 1930 party was workers party and the created an union. This union of workers were defeated by the communists who were to defeat the attempt of organized workers.

This is why the greatest lie of them all is that Unions were made by communists.

The communists hate unions.
When Unions are created the government sends in the army to kill them all and break the attempt of Unions who may replace the government.

[talemore]

UN and EU is the nemesis of communists but at the same time EU And UN is its own enemy of creating a communtity.

Communists do not hate capitalism.

The communists hate communists as the state has the ultimate security power.

Policemen and guardians are communists as they protect the community. They want the best of you but they do so at the expense of someone elses freedom.