If America was truly a democracy and it cared about human rights and the rule of law it would not have let the 1948 Nakba happen.

[Lambros]

If America was truly a democracy and it cared about human rights and the rule of law it would not have let the 1948 Nakba happen.

Every President since 1948 could have done something about the Israel-Palestinian conflict they all kicked the can down the road and let Israel do what they want to which was not much different from October 7th and all the violence that has happened between these two parties since 1948.

Every President since 1948 has been uneducated and uninformed in relation to this conflict. You can even put this in triplicate add the UK and France. Heck you can add all the big brain powers.

Super disappointed in all of them. Repatriating the Palestinians and compensating them for their land would be a merciful thing to do, otherwise we just kicking the can down the road again.

Only........

One notable example is Mahmoud Abbas, the President of the Palestinian Authority1
. In May 2023, he signed a presidential decree criminalizing the denial of the Palestinian Nakba1
. This decree states that anyone found guilty of denying the "catastrophe" inflicted upon Palestinians by Zionist forces in 1948 will face up to two years in jail1


and no one else?

It seems that Mahmoud Abbas is one of the few leaders who has explicitly addressed the Nakba in such a manner. While other leaders may have expressed sympathy or acknowledged the historical events, none have gone as far as to criminalize the denial of the Nakba like Abbas did.

[BigBallinChester]

Schrodinger American World Police. Where America is supposed to stop meddling with other countries but at the same time supposed to meddle with other countries.

[Lambros]

Human rights are still important if one group loses them who is next? Remember this was also a very famous quote and was based on the Jews in World War 2.

[Lambros]

The quote you're referring to might be from the context of the Holocaust and the broader message of standing against persecution. One famous quote that resonates with this sentiment is from Martin Niemöller, a German Lutheran pastor and theologian, who said:

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

This quote emphasizes the importance of standing up against injustice, regardless of who the initial targets are, because ultimately, it affects everyone.

[✡︎sprut✡(they/them)✡.il]

Lambros eredeti hozzászólása:

✡︎sprut✡(they/them)✡.il eredeti hozzászólása:

But Israeli are now indigenous for 75 years. Where as unfortunately your arab regimes did not last. And also no effort in the present day to become a melting pot

Why did you use the term you ,as they are not my Arab regimes? I am just a bystander who has seen to much of the violence of this conflict on the news over the decades and I am tired of seeing the can been kicked down the road. The honorable, sane, intelligent, morally and spiritually correct thing to do is return the land you have taken. So this conflict ends finally.

Repatriation, citizenship and abolishment of apartheid would also lighten Israels load.

I just copied and pasted your comment to highlight the absurdities & hypocrisy in it, sorry for keeping a sentence in 2nd person

[Lambros]

Egypt and Syria: From the UN's founding on October 24, 1945.

Saudi Arabia: Joined on October 24, 1945.

Iraq: Joined on October 21, 1945.

Jordan: Joined on December 14, 1955.

Lebanon: Joined on October 24, 1945.

Yemen: Joined on September 30, 1947.

Think Jordan besides Palestine which unfortunately does not exist would be a big one as far as UN resolution is concerned with only 11% of land under Jewish title.

[✡︎sprut✡(they/them)✡.il]

Lambros eredeti hozzászólása:

The quote you're referring to might be from the context of the Holocaust and the broader message of standing against persecution. One famous quote that resonates with this sentiment is from Martin Niemöller, a German Lutheran pastor and theologian, who said:

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

This quote emphasizes the importance of standing up against injustice, regardless of who the initial targets are, because ultimately, it affects everyone.

i'm well aware of the quote. which is why when every middle eastern country explicitly says "we are going remove Israel off the map and kill the jews" we take it quite seriously and don't let them take any stepping stones to their goals

[Lambros]

✡︎sprut✡(they/them)✡.il eredeti hozzászólása:

Lambros eredeti hozzászólása:

Why did you use the term you ,as they are not my Arab regimes? I am just a bystander who has seen to much of the violence of this conflict on the news over the decades and I am tired of seeing the can been kicked down the road. The honorable, sane, intelligent, morally and spiritually correct thing to do is return the land you have taken. So this conflict ends finally.

Repatriation, citizenship and abolishment of apartheid would also lighten Israels load.

I just copied and pasted your comment to highlight the absurdities & hypocrisy in it, sorry for keeping a sentence in 2nd person

You did nothing I was referring to you as you. You referred to me as being them but I am clearly not.

[Rivers]

✡︎sprut✡(they/them)✡.il eredeti hozzászólása:

Lambros eredeti hozzászólása:

The quote you're referring to might be from the context of the Holocaust and the broader message of standing against persecution. One famous quote that resonates with this sentiment is from Martin Niemöller, a German Lutheran pastor and theologian, who said:

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

This quote emphasizes the importance of standing up against injustice, regardless of who the initial targets are, because ultimately, it affects everyone.

i'm well aware of the quote. which is why when every middle eastern country explicitly says "we are going remove Israel off the map and kill the jews" we take it quite seriously and don't let them take any stepping stones to their goals

Don't let them treat you like the other one hundred and nine countries over one thousand times.

[Lambros]

✡︎sprut✡(they/them)✡.il eredeti hozzászólása:

Lambros eredeti hozzászólása:

The quote you're referring to might be from the context of the Holocaust and the broader message of standing against persecution. One famous quote that resonates with this sentiment is from Martin Niemöller, a German Lutheran pastor and theologian, who said:

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

This quote emphasizes the importance of standing up against injustice, regardless of who the initial targets are, because ultimately, it affects everyone.

i'm well aware of the quote. which is why when every middle eastern country explicitly says "we are going remove Israel off the map and kill the jews" we take it quite seriously and don't let them take any stepping stones to their goals

No one said you had to lay down and die but there are many places that would welcome Jews if they lived in peace and helped out. Like an empty Chinese mega city.

[✡︎sprut✡(they/them)✡.il]

Lambros eredeti hozzászólása:

✡︎sprut✡(they/them)✡.il eredeti hozzászólása:

i'm well aware of the quote. which is why when every middle eastern country explicitly says "we are going remove Israel off the map and kill the jews" we take it quite seriously and don't let them take any stepping stones to their goals

No one said you had to lay down and die but there are many places that would welcome you if you lived in peace and helped out. Like an empty Chinese mega city.

this is giving final solution vibes, if we just move the jews to madagascar or something we won't have to holocaust them!

[kingjames488]

it's only the "flavour of the month" human rights anyone cares about anyways...

[✡︎sprut✡(they/them)✡.il]

Rivers eredeti hozzászólása:

✡︎sprut✡(they/them)✡.il eredeti hozzászólása:

i'm well aware of the quote. which is why when every middle eastern country explicitly says "we are going remove Israel off the map and kill the jews" we take it quite seriously and don't let them take any stepping stones to their goals

Don't let them treat you like the other one hundred and nine countries over one thousand times.

You're confusing me, have you had your latest Covid jab?

[Rivers]

Lambros eredeti hozzászólása:

No one said you had to lay down and die but there are many places that would welcome you if you lived in peace and helped out. Like an empty Chinese mega city.

It was tried many times before and these were the results...

733 B.C. - Samaria (Israel/Judah) - Jews Expelled by Tiglath-Pileser III
722 B.C. - Samaria (Israel/Judah) - Jews Expelled and captured by Sargon II
597 B.C. - Babylonia/Judah - Jews Expelled by Nebuchadnezzar II for refusing to pay tribute
356 B.C. - Persia - Jews Expulsion/Killing plot by Haman
139 B.C. - Rome - Jews Expelled by Gnaeus Cornelius Hispanus for being deceitful, lying, attempting to corrupt Romans into religious cults and cheating people out of money.
115 B.C. - Cyrenaica, Cyprus - Jews Expelled/Killed
63 B.C. - Pompey - Jews Expelled
3 B.C. - Egypt - Jews Expelled
19 - Rome - Jews Expelled by Emperor Tiberius for corruption and aggressive missionary tactics,
41-54 -Rome - Jews Expelled by Emperor Claudius
70 - Jerusalem - Jews Expelled
115-117 -Alexandria - Jews Expelled/Killed by Emperor Trajan
117 - Egypt - Jews Expelled
117 - Cyprus - Jews Expelled
132 - Syria Palaestina - Jews Expelled by Hadrian
250 - Carthage, North Africa - Jews Expelled
325 - Jerusalem - Jews Expelled
415 - Alexandria - Jews Expelled by Saint Cyril of Alexandria
418 - Minorca - Jews Expelled or asked to convert
468 - Babylonia/Judah - Jews Expelled
470 - Babylonia/Judah - Jews Expelled (Again)
554 - Diocese of Clement (France) - Jews Expelled
561 - Diocese of Uzes (France) - Jews Expelled
610 - Cyprus - Jews Expelled
612 - Visgoth, Spain - Jews Expelled by King Sisebut
624 - Medina - Jews Expelled/Killed overseen by Mohammed
629 - Jerusalem - Jews Expelled by Emperor Heraclius I
629 - Austrasia/Francia - Jews Expelled by King Dagobert I
640 - Arabia - Jews Expelled
653 - Toledo - Jews Expelled
672 - Spain - Jews Expelled by King Wamba
682 - Visgothic Empire - Jews Expelled by King Erwig
820 - Lyon, Carolingian Empire - Jews Expelled/killed by Saint Agrobard
845/875 - Canton, China - Jews Expelled/Killed
855/875 - Italy - Jews Expelled by Emperor Ludwig II
876 - Sens - Jews Expelled
985 - Sparta (Greece) - Jews Expelled
1012 - Mainz, Germany - Jews Expelled by Emperor Henry II
1013 - Córdoba - Jews Expelled
1016 - Kairouan, Tunisia - Jews Expelled or asked to convert
1026 - Limoges and other French towns - Jews Expelled by the Bishop
1099 - Jerusalem - Jews Expelled/Killed
1107 - Morocco - Jews Expelled or asked to convert
1113 - Russia - Jews Expelled by Prince Vladimir Monomakh
1171 - Bologna, Italy - Jews Expelled
1181 - Paris - Jews Expelled by Philip Augustus
1182 - Germany - Jews Expelled
1190 - Abbey of St. Edmunds, England - Jews Expelled by William the Scaristan
1223 - Normandy - Jews Expelled by King Louis VIII
1231 - Leicester, England - Jews Expelled
1234 - Newcastle, England - Jews Expelled
1236 - Southhampton, England - Jews Expelled
1240 - Brittany - Jews Expelled by Duke Jean le Roux
1242 - Berkhamstead, England - Jews Expelled
1253 - Vienne, France - Jews Expelled by the Archbishop
1254 - France - Jews Expelled by King Louis IX
1261 - Brabant, Netherlands - Jews Expelled by Duke Henry II in his will
1263 - Derby, England - Jews Expelled
1267 - Synod (Wroclaw, Poland) - Jews Expelled to segregated quarter
1276 - Upper Baveria - Jews Expelled
1287 - Towns in England - Jews Expelled for coin clipping
1287-1288 - Gascony, France - Jews Expelled by King Edward I
1289 - Anjou and Maine - Jews Expelled by King Charles of Anjou
1290 - England - Jews Expelled by King Edward I
1291 - Niort - Jews Expelled
1294 - Nevers - Jews Expelled
1306 - France - Jews Expelled by King Philip IV
1321 - Town in France - Jews Expelled by King Philip V for the ritual murder of a child
1321 - France - Jews Expelled by King Charles IV
1326 - Pressburg - Jews Expelled at the city council's request
1348 - Switzerland - Jews Expelled
1348 - Towns in Spain, France, Germany and Austria - Jews Expelled
1349 - Basel, Switzerland - Jews Expelled/Killed
1349 - Hielbronn (Germany) - Jews Expelled
1349 - Saxony - Jews Expelled
1349 - Mainz, Germany - Jews Expelled/Killed
1349 - Hungary - Jews Expelled
1360 - Hungary - Jews Expelled (again)
1370 - Brussels, Belgium - Jews Expelled
1380 - Slovakia - Jews Expelled
1386 - Strasbourg, Germany - Jews Expelled by Wenceslaus
1394 - Germany - Jews Expelled
1394 - France - Jews Expelled by King Charles VI
1420 - Lyons - Jews Expelled
1420 - Austria - Jews Expelled King Albrecht V
1422 - Austria - Jews Expelled (again)
1424 - Fribourg - Jews Expelled
1424 - Zurich - Jews Expelled
1424 - Cologne - Jews Expelled
1432 - Savoy - Jews Expelled
1435 - Speyer, Germany - Jews Expelled
1438 - Mainz - Jews Expelled
1439 - Augsburg - Jews Expelled
1442 - Netherlands - Jews Expelled
1444 - Netherlands - Jews Expelled (again)
1446 - Bavaria - Jews Expelled
1450 - Lower Bavaria - Jews Expelled
1453 - Vicenza, Italy - Jews Expelled unsuccessfully
1453 - France - Jews Expelled
1453 - Breslau - Jews Expelled
1454 - Wurzburg - Jews Expelled
1458 - Erfury, Germany - Jews Expelled
1462 - Mainz - Jews Expelled
1465 - Fes, Morocco - Jews Expelled
1466 - Sicily - Jews Expelled by Queen Isabella I
1468 - Egypt - Jews Expelled by Sultan Qa'it Bay
1474 - Mainz - Jews Expelled
1475 - Italy - Jews Expelled for 300 years for the ritual murder of a child
1483 - Andalusia, Seville and Cordova - Jews Expelled by King Ferdinand II of Aragon
1483 - Mainz - Jews Expelled
1484 - Warsaw - Jews Expelled
1486 - Vincenza (Italy) - Jews Expelled
1492 - Spain & Spain's Colonies - Jews Expelled by King Ferdinand II of Aragon and Queen Isabella I
1492 - Italy - Jews Expelled
1492 - Mecklenburg, Germany - Jews Expelled for host desecration
1493 - Sicily - Jews Expelled
1495 - Florence, Italy - Jews Expelled by Girolamo Savonarola
1495 - Lithuania - Jews Expelled by Grand Duke Alexander
1496 - Naples - Jews Expelled
1496 - Portugal - Jews Expelled by King Manuel I
1496 - Styria, Austria - Jews Expelled by Emperor Maximilian I
1497 - Graz, Austria - Jews Expelled by Emperor Maximilian I
1498 - Nuremberg - Jews Expelled
1498 - Provence, France - Jews Expelled
1498 - Navarre - Jews Expelled
1504 - Moscow - Jews Expelled
1506 - Lisbon, Portugal - Jews Expelled/Killed
1510 - Brandenburg - Jews Expelled for host desecration and theft of church vessels
1510 - Naples - Jews Expelled for a third time by King Ferdinand II of Aragon
1510 - Prussia - Jews Expelled
1510 - Calabria, Italy - Jews Expelled
1512 - Regensburg, Germany - Jews Expelled
1514 - Strasbourg - Jews Expelled
1515 - Laibach, Austria - Jews Expelled for a third time by Emperor Maximilian I
1515 - Genoa - Jews Expelled
1519 - Regensburg, Germany - Jews Expelled upon the death of Emperor Maximilian I
1524 - Calabria - Jews Expelled
1526 - Hungary and Croatia - Jews Expelled by Emperor Ferdinand I for aiding the Turks
1527 - Florence - Jews Expelled
1533 - Naples - Jews Expelled
1537 - Saxony - Jews Expelled
1541 - Napels - Jews Expelled
1540 - Prague - Jews Expelled
1541 - Bohemia - Jews Expelled by Emperor Ferdinand I for aiding the Turks
1542 - Prague & Bohemia - Jews Expelled
1542 - Piotrkow, Poland - Jews Expelled
1547 - Poland - Jews Expelled/Killed for kidnapping and crucifying a child
1550 - Genoa, Italy - Jews Expelled
1551 - Bavaria - Jews Expelled
1555 - Pesaro - Jews Expelled
1557 - Prague - Jews Expelled
1558 - Recanati, Italy - Jews Expelled
1559 - Bohemia - Jews Expelled for a third time by Emperor Ferdinand I
1559 - Austria - Jews Expelled
1561 - Prague - Jews Expelled
1565 - Prague - Jews Expelled (again)
1566 - Papal States - Jews Expelled
1567 - Wurzburg - Jews Expelled
1569 - Papal States - Jews Expelled by Pope Pius V
1571 - Brandenburg - Jews Expelled
1573 - Germany - Jews Expelled
1575 - Palatinate, Germany - Jews Expelled
1582 - Netherlands - Jews Expelled
1582 - Hungary - Jews Expelled
1590 - Lombardy - Jews Expelled by King Philip II of Spain
1593 - Brandenburg, Austria - Jews Expelled
1593 - Italy - Jews Expelled
1593 - Bavaria - Jews Expelled
1597 - Cremona, Pavia & Lodi - Jews Expelled
1597 - Milan - Jews Expelled
1609 - London, England - Jews Expelled
1614 - Frankfort - Jews Expelled
1615 - France - Jews Expelled by King Louis XIII of France
1615 - Worms - Jews Expelled
1618-1638 - Towns in Germany and Moravia - Jews Expelled during the Thirty Years War
1619 - Kiev - Jews Expelled by Christians
1648 - Ukraine - Jews Expelled
1648 - Poland - Jews Expelled
1649 - Hamburg - Jews Expelled
1654 - New Amsterdam - Jews Expelled by Peter Stuyvesant
1654 - Little Russia (Beylorus) - Jews Expelled
1656 - Persia - Jews Expelled by Sultan Shah Abbas II
1656 - Lithuania - Jews Expelled
1669 - Oran, North Africa - Jews Expelled
1670 - Vienna, Austria - Jews Expelled by Emperor Leopold I
1678 - Yemen - Jews Expelled by Sultan Mehmed IV
1683 - French colonies in North America - Jews Expelled by King Louis XIV
1683 - Moravia - Jews Expelled by Hungarians
1712 - Sandomierz - Jews Expelled
1712 - Poland - Jews Expelled by King Augustus II for ritual murder
1717 - Gibraltar, British Territory - Jews Expelled
1727 - Russia - Jews Expelled by Catherine I of Russia
1738 - Wurtemburg - Jews Expelled
1740 - Little Russia (Beylorus) - Jews Expelled
1742 - Parts of Russia - Jews Expelled by Empress Elizabeth of Russia
1744 - Breslau - Jews Expelled by Fredrik II The Great
1744 - Hungary - Jews Expelled by Queen Maria Theresa
1745 - Prague, Bohemia - Jews Expelled by Archduchess of Austria Maria Theresa
1744 - Slovakia - Jews Expelled
1744 - Livonia - Jews Expelled
1745 - Moravia - Jews Expelled
1746 - Sicily/Naples - Jews Expelled by King Charles III
1753 - Kovad (Lithuania) - Jews Expelled
1761 - Lubeck, Germany - Jews Expelled
1761 - Bordeaux - Jews Expelled
1775 - Warsaw, Poland - Jews Expelled by the locals
1783 - Morocco - Jews Expelled by Sultan Mohammed Ben Abdellah al-Khatib, the third time within a number of years
1786 - Jedda, Arabia - Jews Expelled by Sultan Abdülhamid I
1789 - Alsace, France - Jews Expelled by townspeople
1790 - Warsaw, Poland - Jews Expelled by the locals again
1791 - Saint-Domingue, Hispaniola - Jews Expelled
1791 - Deported to the Pale of Settlement (Poland/Russia) - Jews Expelled by Catherine II of Russia
1804 - Villages in Russia - Jews Expelled
1808 - Villages & Countrysides (Russia) - Jews Expelled
1815 - Lbeck & Bremen - Jews Expelled
1815 - Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria - Jews Expelled
1820 - Bremen - Jews Expelled
1825 - Mohilev and Vitebsk, Poland - Jews Expelled by Emperor Alexander I
1830-1831 - Poland - Jews Expelled by General Ghlopicki
1831 - Danubian Provinces of Moldova and Wallchia, Poland - Jews who could not prove their usefulness Expelled
1843 - Russian Border, Austria & Prussia - Jews Expelled
1850 - Romania - Jews Expelled by Interior Minster Ion Bratianu
1862 - Areas in the United States under General Grant's Jurisdiction - Jews Expelled
1866 - Galatz, Romania - Jews Expelled
1881-1884 - Russia - Jews Expelled
1891 - Moscow - Jews Expelled by Governor Grand Duke Sergei
1910 - Kiev - Jews Expelled
1915 - Western Russia - Jews Expelled
1919 - Bavaria - Jews Expelled (foreign-born Jews)
1921 - Austria - Jews Expelled
1921 - Mongolia - Jews Expelled/Deported
1934 - Towns in Afghanistan - Jews Expelled
1938-1945 - German National Socialist controlled areas - Jews Expelled
1947 - Yemen - Jews Expelled/Killed
1948 - Morocco - Jews Expelled
1948 - Iraq - Jews expelled by Prime Minister Nuri as-Said
1948 - West Bank and Jerusalem - Jews Expelled
1956 - Egypt - Jews Expelled
1972 - Uganda - Jews Expelled by President Idi Amin
2014 - San Juan la Laguana, Guatemala - Jews Expelled due to lack of contact with locals

[kingjames488]

Rivers eredeti hozzászólása:

Jews

you can't say that on the internet.

[Lambros]

✡︎sprut✡(they/them)✡.il eredeti hozzászólása:

Lambros eredeti hozzászólása:

No one said you had to lay down and die but there are many places that would welcome you if you lived in peace and helped out. Like an empty Chinese mega city.

this is giving final solution vibes, if we just move the jews to madagascar or something we won't have to holocaust them!

I just dont like seeing the violence certainly USA France and UK should accept all Israeli Jews as they went all commando with their UN resolution on the founding of Israel. And all resolutions that tried to keep the peace since then.