The FBI lied about crime statistics in the U.S.

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

FBI quietly revised 2022 crime data to show violent offenses rose rather than dropped

https://nypost.com/2024/10/16/us-news/fbi-quietly-revised-2022-crime-data-to-show-violent-offenses-rose-rather-than-dropped/

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

The “revised” FBI data now says crime is up. Here is Trump being “factchecked” by ABC News on the FBI data that has now been to be wrong. Trump was right. Again.
https://x.com/i/status/1846541616518996349

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

FBI Fudges Violent Crime Stats To Hide 55 Percent Rise Under Biden-Harris Administration

https://thefederalist.com/2024/10/16/fbi-fudges-violent-crime-stats-to-hide-55-percent-rise-under-biden-harris-administration/

[Reddari]

They recategorized "violent" into "mostly peaceful".

They just making it more in line with modern lingo.

[MinionJoe]

Oh. Did the major metropolitan areas finally provide their crime statistics to the FBI then?

Many of them stopped reporting local numbers to Federal agencies around 2022.

[Triple G]

Don´t trust any statistic which You haven´t faked Yourself.

[90054321564584560]

most stats are made up. and especially if it is from gov it is even not trustworthy.

[Original Cast Recording]

Originally posted by Los Pollos Hermanos:

FBI Fudges Violent Crime Stats To Hide 55 Percent Rise Under Biden-Harris Administration

https://thefederalist.com/2024/10/16/fbi-fudges-violent-crime-stats-to-hide-55-percent-rise-under-biden-harris-administration/

I'm not surprised at the revised FBI figures, but the NCVS is not the same thing, and it doesn't report the same stats.

[Ulfrinn]

Does anyone actually still believe the FBI is credible?

[Triple G]

Originally posted by 90054321564584560:

most stats are made up. and especially if it is from gov it is even not trustworthy.

I mean it´s not necessarily like they´re made up, but rather as said before. "They recategorized "violent" into "mostly peaceful"." We have something similar here, when they split the statistic for unemployed people - and pulled the welfare people into another one, so the number looks smaller.

I´d say the most untrustworthy ones are about insurances - to show why You need one. Or how critical certain risks are. Like it´s still that way that private companies earn money with these statistics, but some government only wants to provide some data. While they of course also want to show that they do a good job. And it´s not only about how You present a statistic, or how You categorize stuff, but also how You gain the data. It´s a whole course or study at the universities for a reason. It depends what You want to reach with it.

Show something with it , or gain some insight with it, or be transparent with it, so people know what´s going on.

[Netaris]

Originally posted by 90054321564584560:

most stats are made up. and especially if it is from gov it is even not trustworthy.

^ This guy is smart, trust him

[Reddari]

Another pathway for manipulation is how they count stuff like illegal immigrants. The question is if they are not recognized as citizens - do they count as foreign or domestic crime?

Are they basing the stats on the location of the crime or the legal status of the people involved in the crime? (both who doing it and who it is done to)

[ナルゴ]

Unreported crime is not equal to lower or no crime. Go figure

[Netaris]

Originally posted by Reddari:

Another pathway for manipulation is how they count stuff like illegal immigrants. The question is if they are not recognized as citizens - do they count as foreign or domestic crime?

It's simple, always expect the numbers a state give you to be way worse in reality. It's true for crimes, immigration, inflation, everything. They'll always make things appear way less dramatic than what they truely are.

[kingjames488]

what did they do? change the definition of it like they do with everything else to make you think what they want you to think?

[kingjames488]

Originally posted by Nargo:

Unreported crime is not equal to lower or no crime. Go figure

when everything is a crime and everyone is a criminal...