Should there be intelligent and reasoning tests for voting?

[Hobbit XIII]

Simply put so everybody can understand the concept.

Should people have tests that require a certain score in order to vote?

[A&A]

Nguyên văn bởi Corvus XIII:

Reading comprehension tests you would agree to?

I'll pass it by, but who has the physical time to read it? lol
Or ask one of these questions.
https://youtu.be/NNl7GQFTULU?si=ji2nyH9pAZ0oXNFj
I love this film xD

[Triple G]

Nguyên văn bởi Corvus XIII:

Reading comprehension tests you would agree to?

I mean in the end these test wouldn´t show whether the people would make good decisions or not, or how they define good. Imho it doesn´t matter much when a few intelligent people vote for egoistical reasons, which aren´t about the society, or when everybody votes for egoistical reasons which aren´t about the society.

The difference is only:
With a test You exclude the people who would get manipulated by certain intelligent people. And without the test You would have the intelligent people manipulate the people. Only the amount of voters shrinks with a test.

[Xero_Daxter]

Nguyên văn bởi Fake:

If you aren't smart enough to get an ID, you shouldn't be able to vote.

There are people without IDs? I got mine when I was in high school. Haha.

[ナルゴ]

To vote, one must be able to demonstrate an understanding of the following concepts
1.) Abstraction
2.) Recursion
3.) Higher-order functions
4.) Hypothetical syllogism
5.) Truth table and logic gates
6.) The scientific method

Math is deterministic, thus a solid understanding of it means you can predict outcomes. And this is applicable IRL in fields such as economics. I'd rather have voters who understand cause & effect, than those who are shortsighted and vote for things they like without thinking about the potential side-effects. Especially if those side-effects are delayed beyond their attention span. (Occurs beyond the span of a single election cycle)

[Zara]

Obviously this can never happen in USA because if it did one side would be getting all the votes and the other side can't ever let that happen.

[Acetyl]

Nguyên văn bởi Nargo:

To vote, one must be able to demonstrate an understanding of the following concepts
1.) Abstraction
2.) Recursion
3.) Higher-order functions
4.) Truth table and logic gates
5.) The scientific method

Math is deterministic, thus solid understanding of it means you can predict outcomes. And this is applicable IRL in fields such as economics. I'd rather have voters who understand cause & effect, than those who are shortsighted and vote for things they like without thinking about the potential side-effects. Especially if those side-effects are delayed beyond their attention span. (Occurs beyond the span of a single election cycle)

And yet you never questioned the basic assertion.... electing and sending a representative.

[Grendalcat]

Every voter should have to pass the citizenship test. The same test that legal immigrants pass, to become voting citizens.

[Sir Seanicus, Esq.]

That would be very unfair to all the dead voters.

[Dames & Games]

Nguyên văn bởi Corvus XIII:

Simply put so everybody can understand the concept.

Should people have tests that require a certain score in order to vote?

i agree we need iq tests

[Acetyl]

Nguyên văn bởi Grendalcat:

Every voter should have to pass the citizenship test. The same test that legal immigrants pass, to become voting citizens.

And every potential voter shall only be allowed to take the citizen test after being subjected to medical interventions, for the good of the herd.

[Stormer]

every time that happened it got used to rig elections

[vkobe]

Nguyên văn bởi Grendalcat:

Every voter should have to pass the citizenship test. The same test that legal immigrants pass, to become voting citizens.

it called high school, dont know about your country

but in my country we are forced to pass, local language, english, geography and history to get our high school diploma

[C4Warr10r]

No, because such a test would ultimately be manipulated. We just need the US Constitution with a statement of intent. . Fifty state governments, thousands of local ones, all powers not specifically enumerated to the Federal government are reserved for those.

If a power doesn't exist, it's not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ there. None of this crap about how the Constitution is a "living document" that can be amended through judicial process. It's amended through Amendment process. The Supreme Court does not, and never has, had any business adjudicating state matters. It's that simple. Just throw it back to the states.

From there, everyone can see what works and what doesn't, and we don't have to go through this whole unpleasant rigamaroo about national laws that have no business being there in the first place. I don't care if the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Communists assault it, they're gonna need a lot more time, and a lot more effort, and a lot more chances to prove how much they suck, before they ever get past the statement of intent.

That's plenty of time for everyone else to actually be productive members of the human species and live decent lives. Leftism will evolve, naturally, it can't be stopped, but it can be slowed down enough to render its tactics irrelevant. The greatest superpower in the world, by orders of magnitude, is such because it hasn't fallen yet.

[Triple G]

Nguyên văn bởi Grendalcat:

Every voter should have to pass the citizenship test. The same test that legal immigrants pass, to become voting citizens.

Best idea so far. Here i guess that 60% of the citizens would fail this test. And on top: none of these questions they ask is relevant for anything, as it´s about random knowledge stuff about the county. Like "what happened on this or that date?"....

Also if someone fails the test, they would need to revoke citizenship - which means they can´t have a work, and would need to ask or permission, which is then only allowed temporary for like one or two years, so the people can´t plan anything, as it isn´t sure if it gets renewed next time, while the whole process of getting the permission might take a few months. And when they don´t have work - they can´t get welfare, as they´re no citizens, so they only get emergency help and live in some container with 20 other people.

[wesnef]

Well that would certainly take care of Trump's chances of winning.