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He won't end this by abandoning Ukraine. If Russia is allowed to get out of this conflict, thinking it was worth it, this will mean an additional wave of millions of Ukrainian refugees and additional wars in the future.
It's the same situation like giving the Sudetenland to Germany and thinking, that this will "end it". You can't appease people like Putin. A bully only understands strenght, sadly.
Yeah he loves Putin though, and has it in for Ukraine ever since the impeachment. He's def ending that. Even if it means sending Zelensky into exile, that's what they're going to do.
But as i said, its boots on the ground in Israel, that seems already started.
You don't know, what you are talking about. Of course there are tensions between Russia and Georgia. Russia invaded Georgia in 2008 and still has control of Georgian territory (South Ossetia)!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War
There are tensions between Russia and the Baltic states with Putin having threatened countries like Latvia in the past multiple times, citing the Russian minority there as a reason for going to war.
And there are tensions between Moldova and the Russian backed speratitst in Transnistria.
All of this potential new war zones!
Youi are severely uninformed!
He won't admit Ukraine into NATO, because that was always a nothing-burger. Putin is just using it as an excuse. For one thing, if even ONE NATO country votes against war, even if attacked, NATO forces can't go to war under the treaty arrangements. They'd have to declare war individually. Ukraine only wants admission for the extra defense budget they'd get, and clearly, need. Putin didn't want them to have that, because he was always planning on invading.
So with NATO membership being an easy giveaway, the next problem is that the US is treaty-bound to defend Ukraine, a treaty we re not currently honoring. We promised, in exchange for Ukraine's nukes, that we would defend them against Russia. To me, that just means we should be there right now, I'd go if I wasn't too old, but plenty of people would pitch a fit if US troops were deployed, because God forbid we ever use the military to win wars.
Thus, what's more likely to happen is that Trump will just threaten increased aid, and find one or two countries to support him, like Poland. That would be plenty to crush the Russian army, given the pathetic state it is in. With that, I imagine he'll work out one kind of deal or another, worst-case scenario, with Ukraine losing some territory, but Russia paying oil money reparations. Russia wants more oil market, anyway, so he may let them in a bit.
That's my best educated guess, but he will find a way to end the war, one way or another.
And then he might also leave NATO or make support for NATO contiditional, inviting Putin to test NATOs resolve. Which would result in more wars.
The amount of damage Trump can do here has been unthinkable before.
Because the US could not handle the aftermath of 9/11 alone and asked for support.
If Europe gets ♥♥♥♥♥♥, the US is ♥♥♥♥♥♥, too. Nobody is going to buy your Disney+ subscriptions anymore, if we are at war. But this might be too complex a thought for isolationists, whi see everything as a zero-sum game.
You clearly do not understand, what the US gets out of defending Europe. The US is not doing it, because of moral standards but because it benefits them geostrategically. But again, why do I try to explain something like that to people, who see everything as a monetary transaction.
Yeah, but you have to understand the American psyche. We don't care about NATO, and have had it with these wars. Harris may in fact lose, because of it.
We can't be worried about foreign affairs, and trillions of dollars in wars, as we have a rent and housing crisis and people out in the street in droves, as our Republican friends are obsessed over the border issue.
Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on your view, Sir Seanicus is right, at least in how the American People feel of these issues. I mean, we haven't seen Ukraine on tv, in weeks evebn months. It's off the air.
It's really frustrating to see, how many people are simply ignorant of world affairs. Also it's not like the housing crisis would have been solved by any party if there was no support for Ukraine. Unless you want your homeless people to sleep in M113 APCs, that is. Otherwise, what is sent to Ukraine in material was already in existence and you can't pay school teachers in 155mm artillery shells.
USA : NATO we been hurt help us fight these evil terrorists!
USA : There are more Terrorists in this other country too help us fight these terrorists!
USA : We just killed our economy with really freaked out banking regulations!
USA : Its not fair why do we have to have anything to do with the treaties we set ourselves! its not fair!
USA in the 21st century ^^