Drop in quality in gaming

[Noctuary]

Does anyone else have this feeling that gaming is becoming less and less creative. I can't realy put my finger on it but I feel that 2014 was an especially poor year for releases.

I know there will always be the "YOU JUSTIFY ANYTHING, YOU'RE A ♥♥♥♥♥, GAMING IS GETTING BETTER" crowd, but does anyone think otherwise?

[Noctuary]

Sexy Things eredeti hozzászólása:

HLCinSC eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm hoping the lack of AAA was just due to the aging of the last console generation and the traditionally initially slower development for the newer consoles as developers learn the ins and outs and more users adopt them allowing eventually the last generatin of consoles to be completely abandoned for multi platform games.

I blame two things here:

The rise of early access, and the recent boom of indie gaming.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against indie gaming in general but lately it seems the indie scene is just producing 8-bit platformers trying to cash in on the nostalgia effect.

We have over 9000 golden axe games. wooopp. Just look at that rubbish shovel knight.

[Noctuary]

Talon eredeti hozzászólása:

Dreakon eredeti hozzászólása:

There haven't been any absolutely massive releases yet, unlike previous years with the likes of Bioshock Infinite and GTA V... but I bet the master race would probably say they're just console garbage anyways.

Yeah GTA, Bioshock, Assassins Creed etc are all good games. But they don't wow me anymore.

What im saying is, theres very little new and original from AAA developers (not that they were a risk taking bunch to begin with), nothing worth developing into a series in its own right. Where are the great and original games that'll we'll be playing the 4th or 5th installment of in 10 years time? im not seeing them.

GTA and Elder scrolls are from the 90's. Halo, Battlefeild, CoD 10+ years each. Its a bit sad when you consider Bioshock and Borderlands are the latest and best attempts to change the FPS genre and that was 5-7 years ago.

Not only that, what to Bioshock and Borderlands even bring to the table? Bioshock doesn't know what the hell it wants to be and Borderlands was pretty much a twitch shooter version of Fallout 3.

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The Defiler eredeti hozzászólása:

Not only that, what to Bioshock and Borderlands even bring to the table? Bioshock doesn't know what the hell it wants to be and Borderlands was pretty much a twitch shooter version of Fallout 3.

Bioshock was trying to be a sequel to System Shock 2, it would seem.

[MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™]

Talon eredeti hozzászólása:

Dreakon eredeti hozzászólása:

There haven't been any absolutely massive releases yet, unlike previous years with the likes of Bioshock Infinite and GTA V... but I bet the master race would probably say they're just console garbage anyways.

Yeah GTA, Bioshock, Assassins Creed etc are all good games. But they don't wow me anymore.

What im saying is, theres very little new and original from AAA developers (not that they were a risk taking bunch to begin with), nothing worth developing into a series in its own right. Where are the great and original games that'll we'll be playing the 4th or 5th installment of in 10 years time? im not seeing them.

GTA and Elder scrolls are from the 90's. Halo, Battlefeild, CoD 10+ years each. Its a bit sad when you consider Bioshock and Borderlands are the latest and best attempts to change the FPS genre and that was 5-7 years ago.

Gamers get what they pay for, cod and madden come out with a rehash every year and make bank. "innovative" games lead to bankrupcy.

[Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart]

MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™ eredeti hozzászólása:

"innovative" games lead to bankrupcy.

Proof?

[RalphRoberts]

Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart eredeti hozzászólása:

MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™ eredeti hozzászólása:

"innovative" games lead to bankrupcy.

Proof?

He doesn't need proof, its painfully obvious to anyone who has a general knowledge of the gaming market and gaming history.

[Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart]

RalphRoberts eredeti hozzászólása:

He doesn't need proof, its painfully obvious to anyone who has a general knowledge of the gaming market and gaming history.

Oh good, you actually gave me a statement that includes market and history. Usually all I get from people is that "games sucks now becuz all people my age do is play cod in middle school. i wish i was born in da 90's". That's why I asked for proof, because I see ♥♥♥♥ like that all the time.

Carry on then.

[Dreakon13]

RalphRoberts eredeti hozzászólása:

Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart eredeti hozzászólása:

Proof?

He doesn't need proof, its painfully obvious to anyone who has a general knowledge of the gaming market and gaming history.

Erm... I'd still like to see proof? An example... something?

I also find it interesting that no one here considers a 4 player coop shooter/RPG hybrid like Borderlands innovative. Maybe not now because we have it, but at the time... and lumping it (as well as Bioshock and GTA) in with COD and Assassins Creed like it gets yearly rehashes is asinine. This topic reeks of personal bias and anti-mainstream hipster douchebaggery.

[Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart]

Dreakon eredeti hozzászólása:

This topic reeks of personal bias and anti-mainstream hipster douchebaggery.

Oh you should see the thread I just made....

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Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart eredeti hozzászólása:

MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™ eredeti hozzászólása:

"innovative" games lead to bankrupcy.

Proof?

Despite many people on here seeming to hate GT, he has a good point in these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS1p7W5dmBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxhs-GLE29Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyXcr6sDRtw

[Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart]

FuG chibilibi eredeti hozzászólása:

Despite many people on here seeming to hate GT, he has a good point in these videos:

I dread to see anything from gametheory sorry my friend, can you give me a tl;dr instead?

[Night Owl]

YOU JUSTIFY ANYTHING, YOU'RE A ♥♥♥♥♥, GAMING IS GETTING BETTER

[HLCinSC]

Dreakon eredeti hozzászólása:

RalphRoberts eredeti hozzászólása:

He doesn't need proof, its painfully obvious to anyone who has a general knowledge of the gaming market and gaming history.

Erm... I'd still like to see proof? An example... something?

I also find it interesting that no one here considers a 4 player coop shooter/RPG hybrid like Borderlands innovative. Maybe not now because we have it, but at the time... and lumping it (as well as Bioshock and GTA) in with COD and Assassins Creed like it gets yearly rehashes is asinine. This topic reeks of personal bias and anti-mainstream hipster douchebaggery.

Well not everyone can agree on what is innovative. I'm with you on Borderlands, it's not the first fps/rpg hybrid but it did it very well implementing both of those with addicting loot and leveling. Staying just with fps, Bulletstorm wasn't bad and it strayed from the traditional COD style fps and it underperformed.

[Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart]

Even back then, I always felt that every year had a dry spell. Once again, just look back at it next year, and see what resulted. We're only half way through the year now. The closet thing I can think of is that the first few years of every generation has a meh beginning for it.

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Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart eredeti hozzászólása:

FuG chibilibi eredeti hozzászólása:

Despite many people on here seeming to hate GT, he has a good point in these videos:

I dread see anything from gametheory, can you give me tldr instead?

Every CoD up to Ghosts sold better than the previous one, and many people claim that the games are very similar (and they are) with little to no "innovation."

The Madden series is literally copy and paste of the previous games just with different players on the teams (doesn't change the way it plays, though), and yet it sells EXTREMELY well.

The Battlefield series, while I've heard isn't particularly copy/paste (never played it myself), is similar to its previous entries and sells better with each game.

Assassin's Creed games are quite similar to each other, gameplay-wise, and 2 sold better than 1, 3 sold better than 2, and 4 sold I think about the same as 3, but a bit more.

Now for "innovative" games like Okami, those sell poorly despite incredible review scores. The games like Yoshi's Island, Super Mario Sunshine, etc. sell worse than the copy/paste 2D Mario sidescrollers.

For better explanation, watch the second video I linked from 3 minutes in onwards. It's mostly graphs and stuff.