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SolidSonicMania 4 dez. 2024 às 10:30
Why is society so bent on denying what feels natural?
We're humans. Feeling joy that something bad happened to a person we despise is a natural reaction and here society is all "you can't do that!"

We need to start raising our children to accept that if it feels good then it shouldn't be suppressed.
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AdahnGorion 4 dez. 2024 às 10:32 
Most societies does not deny humans to do this, unless the incite for actual violence or worse.
NW/RL 4 dez. 2024 às 11:08 
Schadenfreude, in and of itself, is harmless. Seeking pleasure from schadenfreude by causing misfortune to others is psychopathic behavior and absolutely should be shunned by society
You should check out Anton Lavey. His philosophy is right up your alley.
primeinsurrection 4 dez. 2024 às 11:12 
"If it feels good do it." is an ideology that will bring total destruction to ones life. Its usually doing the things that do not feel good that ensure you have a good and secure life.
Chronocide 4 dez. 2024 às 11:20 
Originalmente postado por SolidSonicMania:
Why is society so bent on denying what feels natural?

We're humans. Feeling joy that something bad happened to a person we despise is a natural reaction and here society is all "you can't do that!"

We need to start raising our children to accept that if it feels good then it shouldn't be suppressed.
You mean like rape and murder? Cannibalism and insest and Pedophilia, and so forth....

There's a fair amount of "natural" behavior that is simply incompatible with our present society.
SolidSonicMania 4 dez. 2024 às 11:21 
Originalmente postado por NW/RL:
Schadenfreude, in and of itself, is harmless. Seeking pleasure from schadenfreude by causing misfortune to others is psychopathic behavior and absolutely should be shunned by society
I didn't say CAUSE misfortune, I said simply feeling good in the wake of finding out something unfortunate happened in the life of someone who makes you feel nothing but malice isn't detrimental.
Última alteração por SolidSonicMania; 4 dez. 2024 às 11:22
MinionJoe 4 dez. 2024 às 11:26 
Originalmente postado por AdahnGorion:
Most societies does not deny humans to do this, unless the incite for actual violence or worse.
Well, except the UK. And Canada. And Thailand.
primeinsurrection 4 dez. 2024 às 12:01 
Originalmente postado por Bad Aim:
Originalmente postado por SolidSonicMania:
We're humans. Feeling joy that something bad happened to a person we despise is a natural reaction and here society is all "you can't do that!"

We need to start raising our children to accept that if it feels good then it shouldn't be suppressed.

I seriously doubt that to many people feel bad that Hitler is dead, nor would they have any problem saying that s/he is glad that Hitler is dead.

I dont think the Germans went to war because it felt good. Or that the other half of the world thought what they were doing was wrong.
Morkonan 4 dez. 2024 às 12:03 
Originalmente postado por SolidSonicMania:
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We need to start raising our children to accept that if it feels good then it shouldn't be suppressed.

So, you're saying you're a heroin user?
Chronocide 4 dez. 2024 às 12:16 
Originalmente postado por SolidSonicMania:
Originalmente postado por NW/RL:
Schadenfreude, in and of itself, is harmless. Seeking pleasure from schadenfreude by causing misfortune to others is psychopathic behavior and absolutely should be shunned by society
I didn't say CAUSE misfortune, I said simply feeling good in the wake of finding out something unfortunate happened in the life of someone who makes you feel nothing but malice isn't detrimental.
But that's the problem, lots of "natural" things are things that people find enjoyable or satisfying, but do cause harm to others.

Like, for example, parents that find their kids stressful is natural. Should they ditch the children and go find fun/joyful/satisfying things to do? Or should they endure it and focus on raising children in the "right" way?

Doing whatever feels good isn't always the best choice, especially for society in the long term. Sometimes you have to sacrifice joy or pleasure in the name of making things work in the future.
Reddari 4 dez. 2024 às 12:18 
Originalmente postado por primeinsurrection:
"If it feels good do it." is an ideology that will bring total destruction to ones life. Its usually doing the things that do not feel good that ensure you have a good and secure life.

Depends purely on the nature of the being in question. Its hard for a liar to tell the truth while it is hard for a honest person to lie.
HermitTheToad 4 dez. 2024 às 12:24 
Originalmente postado por SolidSonicMania:
We need to start raising our children to accept that if it feels good then it shouldn't be suppressed.
Hitler though killing the Jews was good. I don't see anybody defending him though.
Devious 4 dez. 2024 às 12:26 
Well, consider that not everyone dislikes this person. If a guy that made fun of you in high school gets pancreatic cancer, go ahead and celebrate if you're still angry about it, just don't expect his entourage to take it in stride.
vkobe 4 dez. 2024 às 12:28 
Originalmente postado por SolidSonicMania:
We're humans. Feeling joy that something bad happened to a person we despise is a natural reaction and here society is all "you can't do that!"

We need to start raising our children to accept that if it feels good then it shouldn't be suppressed.
it is the principle live with discipline or be better than animal
Chronocide 4 dez. 2024 às 12:36 
Originalmente postado por HermitTheToad:
Hitler though killing the Jews was good. I don't see anybody defending him though.
If you start advocating that it was good, there's quite a bit of censorship on that line of thinking. You will be suppressed on most websites and in most public places. Entire countries have laws against that particular line of reasoning.

Any subject, no matter how crazy one side is, naturally has people arguing for and people arguing against. If there's nobody arguing one side, that's an artificial thing where the side is being suppressed.

And in fairness, plenty of subjects I just don't want to hear about and am glad they are suppressed.
Última alteração por Chronocide; 4 dez. 2024 às 12:37
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