Haters = Fans?

[BuniBealla]

Food for thought: If humans hate something they naturally treat it like they would something they're afraid of, they actively avoid said thing
If you're purposely putting yourself to be around or talk about the thing or person you claim to dislike or hate it's because you actually like that thing or admire that person and feel a deep sense of guilt over it for various subconscious reasons
you cannot logically claim to be against something or someone if you act the same way an obsessed number one fan would, if you're matching that behaviour and energy, YOU are that fan.
It feeds into the saying "if you have haters you're doing something right."

prove me wrong uwu

[Lime]

its free real estate :3

[Dr. Weird]

I agree.

[c Z p]

In a way, your're right.
But what you're missing is, you're still potentially in danger.
Normally a hater cannot terminate you physically, so they keep watching you, documenting any and all weaknesses, possibly planning on how to exploit them...?
You may take pride that they're fans, but they're the wrong kind of fans.

[Grendalcat]

Someone once said that Dallas Cowboys haters know more about the team than Dallas Cowboys fans know. They could be right.

[BuniBealla]

Originally posted by c Z p:

In a way, your're right.
But what you're missing is, you're still potentially in danger.
Normally a hater cannot terminate you physically, so they keep watching you, documenting any and all weaknesses, possibly planning on how to exploit them...?
You may take pride that they're fans, but they're the wrong kind of fans.

I feel even though that's a possibility that they can do something extremely harmful or dangerous, that's in extreme cases and there's usually steps to get to that point
they are the wrong kind of fans, but most are fans that can't do much so I think of it as they're still admiring from a distance uwu

[Ghost Robertson]

Well the people who hate me aren't fans.
They would probably like it if i didn't exist.

[Chronocide]

Originally posted by BuniBealla:

Food for thought: If humans hate something they naturally treat it like they would something they're afraid of, they actively avoid said thing

Fear and hate are different. Fear avoids. You can certainly fear and hate something, but they aren't the same thing.

Originally posted by BuniBealla:

If you're purposely putting yourself to be around or talk about the thing or person you claim to dislike or hate it's because you actually like that thing or admire that person and feel a deep sense of guilt over it for various subconscious reasons

You can love a person you hate. You can admire someone you hate. You can dislike someone you love.

Emotions are complicated...especially with regards to people.

But you hate doesn't equal those other emotions. They are separate concepts.

Originally posted by BuniBealla:

you cannot logically claim to be against something or someone if you act the same way an obsessed number one fan would, if you're matching that behaviour and energy, YOU are that fan.
It feeds into the saying "if you have haters you're doing something right."

Not a "saying" that's a quote. Kylie Bunbury is the one you are quoting. If I'm understanding the quote, she's talking about utilizing haters to promote herself, as in free publicity.

That is not the same thing as her saying that haters like her.

It's really just a slight variation of PT Barnum's "There's no such thing as bad publicity."

[c Z p]

Originally posted by BuniBealla:

I feel even though that's a possibility that they can do something extremely harmful or dangerous, that's in extreme cases and there's usually steps to get to that point
they are the wrong kind of fans, but most are fans that can't do much so I think of it as they're still admiring from a distance uwu

They're not admiring from a distance.
The first thing they would attempt is fighting you through arguments, logical ones most of the times, if that doesn't work they'll start using lies. etc
if they're at the wrong from the start, they'll start with lies since their arguments have no logic, therefore value.
in the end of the day, they'd seek to damage you either personally or in the eyes of other people usually indirectly, whenever they get the chance.

[WhispersOfTheWind]

First of all I would like to state that there are different people so not everything applies to everyone, always.

Like saying "more people hate you the better off you are".

I don't think that is true because according to that logic everything nominal and menial becomes then sort of "doublespeak" where values are inverted upside down and so by that logic everything bad is good and everything good is bad and also to mention the nature and the use or goal of words is not to say something and then to mean another thing...

Furthermore, the use of the meaning of the slogan or saying there is also applicable only to a few things and not persons necessarily because other than a company gaining negativity and perceiving this as "free-marketing" I can not think of any other examples that apply to the saying: if someone hates you, you must be doing something right.

Sounds kind of an evil thing to say, idk.

Also, the word "hater" is sort of nonsensical because it implies hate and I am not sure if "haters" really feel that way towards the person or whatever they are referring or directing that word at because hate just hits differently and it is really very destructive and consuming in which sense most normal people that hate someone or something, stop feeling that way after a point and to call someone a "hater" these days seems more like a tongue-in-cheek thing to do rather than to mean it seriously, even though that word would imply it, I don't think that's always the case.

Like, liking someone by saying you don't like them. Does that really make sense? Maybe as a way of growth in the context of not liking someone at first but then later realizing it doesn't really matter or that this feeling perceived isn't valid.

Which... Has some merit though I think. Sometimes I would not like someone who turned out to be all right and other times I wouldn't like someone who turned out bad, meaning I was sort of blinded by whatever; some aspect of them which I thought was true but turned out not to be so in their case it was more my fault like a misreading of their character than anything else like something actually being wrong with them.

This is also why I don't like to share my opinion and to proclaim it loudly to others about how I feel towards some people, unless we are close at least closer than strangers because it's way too easy to get carried away with an opinion when like multiple or multitude of people feel that way especially if that opinion is negative and unwarranted.

There is also sometimes this process of thinking of going through possibilities like to cover all possible angles that this "hate is good" seems to be a fragment of. Like a process to determine a possible outcome or view. To try and to come to a new conclusion, if you will.

[BuniBealla]

Originally posted by c Z p:

Originally posted by BuniBealla:

I feel even though that's a possibility that they can do something extremely harmful or dangerous, that's in extreme cases and there's usually steps to get to that point
they are the wrong kind of fans, but most are fans that can't do much so I think of it as they're still admiring from a distance uwu

They're not admiring from a distance.
The first thing they would attempt is fighting you through arguments, logical ones most of the times, if that doesn't work they'll start using lies. etc

thats still alot of energy to be using, they could put that towards anything in the world but they willingly choose to put it toward you
that's flattery uwu

[c Z p]

Originally posted by BuniBealla:

Originally posted by c Z p:

They're not admiring from a distance.
The first thing they would attempt is fighting you through arguments, logical ones most of the times, if that doesn't work they'll start using lies. etc

thats still alot of energy to be using, they could put that towards anything in the world but they willingly choose to put it toward you
that's flattery uwu

ok, I've heard this one before and like I said back then
'how can you know if this is too much energy used? how can you know the capacity of their energy and capabilities and why do you think it's flattering?
only the neglected would think that their foes conspiring is flattery.'
unless ofc you know specifically who they are, and that they're inferior af.
then it's a funny thing to watch, true.

[BuniBealla]

Originally posted by c Z p:

Originally posted by BuniBealla:

thats still alot of energy to be using, they could put that towards anything in the world but they willingly choose to put it toward you
that's flattery uwu

ok, I've heard this one before and like I said back then
'how can you know if this is too much energy used? how can you know the capacity of their energy and capabilities and why do you think it's flattering?
only the neglected would think that their foes conspiring is flattery.'

the girls who get it get it and the ones who don't don't
uwu

[c Z p]

Originally posted by BuniBealla:

Originally posted by c Z p:

ok, I've heard this one before and like I said back then
'how can you know if this is too much energy used? how can you know the capacity of their energy and capabilities and why do you think it's flattering?
only the neglected would think that their foes conspiring is flattery.'

the girls who get it get it and the ones who don't don't
uwu

kk I give up, you win.

[Silverlight]

Most "haters" are fans that want a product or franchise to be great again.

[BuniBealla]

Originally posted by Midori:

Haters = motivators

fr uwu