If I ask for no bacon on my burger WHY is it not cheaper?

[Violent Rainbow]

If you add bacon to any burger at Hungry Jacks it costs $2.50 more. So if I ask to NOT have bacon on my burger which normally comes with bacon WHY is it not $2.50 cheaper? Make it make sense!!!!!

[tmwfte]

Nguyên văn bởi Top Cat:

Why?

I would think extra charge for extra labour would be straightforward.

[tom five]

Nguyên văn bởi tmwfte:

They should charge more for the increased labour to specially make the bacon-less burger.

At least a $5 surcharge.

There is no increase in labour. They don't put the bacon in and then take it out again.

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Nguyên văn bởi mf tom:

Nguyên văn bởi tmwfte:

They should charge more for the increased labour to specially make the bacon-less burger.

At least a $5 surcharge.

There is no increase in labour. They don't put the bacon in and then take it out again.

they have to read "baconless bacon burger," tolerate the order, then make it correctly for a no doubt dubious individual.

[tmwfte]

Nguyên văn bởi mf tom:

There is no increase in labour. They don't put the bacon in and then take it out again.

The increase in labour is the thought that goes in to making it "special to order", rather than following their regular routine. You want a special order, you get a special price.

[臭鼠女]

if you make the burger yourself it costs even less

[Wild Child]

Nguyên văn bởi Doomerang:

2.50$ for a couple slices of bacon? That’s robbery. Just make burgers at home

Yeah that is like a quarter of the price of a pack of bacon for just 2 slices.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

as my brother.. who used to be a manager for 3 mcdonald restaurants as a student job before graduating told me..

the food is only a marginal fraction of the cost.. in sit in restaurants it is at best 30%.. at mcD is is closer to 15-20% the mayor cost is labour..
-> thus my brother orderd his staff never to be fuzzy about coupons.. expired, from another restaurant or even just written on an napkin.. just give them that 2 for 1 always.. for it's not worth the time.. and if that makes the customer return.. well all the better.

well now with that in mind.. the entire process thus is aimed at speed.. at standard recepies.. if you order a special order.. and yes that includes leaving an ingredient off.. that takes EXTRA labour.,. somebody has to specially prepare that and make sure it stays off..
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and thats why you actually should pay MORE for having your ordered altered.. by leaving something off..
ofcourse thats not something the customer understands so thats why it is not done.. but it was reaaally hated if you altered orders (and as my brother also said.. the highest change to get spit in your stuff.) sure he would fire staff on the spot that did that and were found out.... but would he always catch them imediatly, or had they done that a number of times before caught??

[De Hollandse Ezel]

Nguyên văn bởi Lilly:

Nguyên văn bởi Doomerang:

2.50$ for a couple slices of bacon? That’s robbery. Just make burgers at home

Yeah that is like a quarter of the price of a pack of bacon for just 2 slices.

1 you pay for the labour, not the food at restaurants

2 a pack with 8 baconstrips is today already nearly 4 euro at a supermarket too..

[Ray Rook]

The only answer is not to shop there if you don't like it. But people won't. So they continue to do it.

There's your answer.

[tom five]

Nguyên văn bởi tmwfte:

Nguyên văn bởi mf tom:

There is no increase in labour. They don't put the bacon in and then take it out again.

The increase in labour is the thought that goes in to making it "special to order", rather than following their regular routine. You want a special order, you get a special price.

If you consider that an increase in labour then I feel bad for anybody who employs you.

[Violent Rainbow]

Nguyên văn bởi Doomerang:

2.50$ for a couple slices of bacon? That’s robbery. Just make burgers at home

That's Australia for you. A large meal from Hungry Jacks costs about $19 now, it's madness. Also Hungry Jacks is our version of Burger King in case anyone was wondering, they renamed it here.

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Nguyên văn bởi Violent Rainbow:

Nguyên văn bởi Doomerang:

2.50$ for a couple slices of bacon? That’s robbery. Just make burgers at home

That's Australia for you. A large meal from Hungry Jacks costs about $19 now, it's madness. Also Hungry Jacks is our version of Burger King in case anyone was wondering, they renamed it here.

westminster directive, i kid you not.

he wants to poison the entire idea of service.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

Nguyên văn bởi Violent Rainbow:

Nguyên văn bởi Doomerang:

2.50$ for a couple slices of bacon? That’s robbery. Just make burgers at home

That's Australia for you. A large meal from Hungry Jacks costs about $19 now, it's madness. Also Hungry Jacks is our version of Burger King in case anyone was wondering, they renamed it here.

sounds quite normal.. given those are australian dollars that are only 70 or 80 cent worth..

here a big king xxl menu.. costs 13.95 euro.
if you add an extra slice of bacon or cheese thats 1 euro extra
if you add an extra patty thats 1.50 extra
if you want mayonaise on your fries, thats 80 cent
if you want a milkshake instead of fizz thats 1 euro extra
and make it kingsize adds 2 euro

so yeah if you order the largest burger they have WITH all the extra's...that is kingzided, sauce on your fries, an extra patty (bringing that up to 345 grams of beef) extra bacon extra cheese, and a milkshake instead.. THAN it is 20,65 euro

now if I look prices from 2018.
a big king XXL menu than was 9.45 euro
extra slice of cheese or bacon was 60 cent
extra patty was 1 euro
mayonaise was 60 cent
milkshake replacement was 1 euro extra
and make it kingsize was 1.50 euro

so if you orderd the same menu with all the insane extra's than it would cost you 14,75 euro.

so there has been an price increase.. but given that wages also have gotten like 30% higher in that time.

your minimumwage was 9.11 before taxes in 2018.. so you had to work 1 hour 37 minutes and 9 seconds for a maxed out big king xxl menu.

minimumwage is now 14.06 before taxes.. so you now have to work 1 hour 28 minutes and 8 seconds for a maxed out big king xxl menu

it has actually gotten cheaper..

[Tonepoet]

Nguyên văn bởi mf tom:

Nguyên văn bởi Tonepoet:

You're complicating the order by asking for something extra to be done

That doesn't make any sense. The burgers aren't premade. They don't don't put the bacon in and then take it out again. There's nothing extra to be done.

I'm not so sure that's true but even if it is, "bacon double cheeseburger without the bacon" is a slightly more complicated order than a "double cheeseburger" regardless. Not only is it more of a mouthful and ink on the receipt, but the register person has to note that the burger is to be made without bacon and relay that to the kitchen, and you're expecting them to take the extra time to subtract the cost of the ingredient before letting the order though. You're possibly holding up the line for maybe up to a minute, especially when we consider that they'll want to confirm your order first. It's fast food, so every moment counts, and they want the process to be efficient as possible, unless they can supersize you or something.

Moreover, the kitchen actually has to remember to make it without bacon, even though internalized training would have him make the burger with bacon out of force of habit. If they make a mistake on the order customer claims they ordered the bacon cheeseburger without bacon. Maybe this dispute holds up the kitchen until the supervisor can be brought in to resolve whether or not the customer is to be issued a refund.

It's probably not $2.50 worth of work, but these minor inconveniences aren't really worth the hassle when you have a separate double cheeseburger menu item to simplify the process in the first place.

Also, imagine for a moment that you're ordering from a smaller establishment that doesn't have a bacon double cheeseburger menu item. Imagine if you're ordering from an establishment which has a list of extras. "I want a double cheeseburger, with Bacon as an extra, sans bacon". That's just kind of a bit confusing. It's a minor hassle everybody, including the customer could do without.

This is just assuming aside from the addition of bacon, that the burgers are made exactly the same, and there aren't other things that modify the cost of the burger that incentive the customer to change their order anyway.

I see no good reason to go through with all of this so long as the establishment has an otherwise equivalent order without the bacon in the first place, and having a disincentive to this pointless rigmarole seems favorable.

Why would a rational person want to order a bacon cheeseburger without bacon instead of just a cheeseburger?

[El Mythical 23 k.s.c.]

Why aren't you ordering a cheese burger?