Mega Ultra Chicken (Porttikiellossa) 21.11.2024 klo 8.53
Will Ukraine respond to the Russian ICBM attack?
Ukraine should stop firing U.S. weapons into Russia. Trump wants to negotiate peace.
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vkobe 21.11.2024 klo 9.00 
yeah with more drone and long range missile until they deplete their missiles long range stock
Vox 21.11.2024 klo 9.00 
Use a storm shadow on Putin's bunker
Will Ukraine respond? Does Ukraine want to be hit with more of them?
Mega Ultra Chicken (Porttikiellossa) 21.11.2024 klo 9.04 
Karhrandras lähetti viestin:
I friggin love how some Americans truly think Trump is gonna be around for entering office, LMAO.
Unless the Democrats plan a coup, he's becoming the president.
Fake news.
with what?? ukraine is already loosing...

this is all rattling.. but same old same old.. for a few more months..

and putin dumb dumb who every other world leader laught about and exploids while trump things himself sooo smart (like any narciscist..

trump likely will just do something stupid.. like bvasicly just cutting off all aid to ukraine cold turkey.,.. (and if the eu/ my dutch policians are smart they do to.. but you know those corrupt wef lackeys won't)

and trump will call those europeans stupid and lazy etc etc


in the best scenario.. zelenski scared for exactly the above.. begrudgingly agrees to new borders which cecede all the current occupied regions and than some.. to russia.. and make that border the new official one..
+ zelenski will step down and hold new elections (which trump is to stopid to monitor.. so putin manipulates and a new pupped goverment is installed
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and peace and trade for all resumes..
and trump will declare it a FANTASTIC deal... only HE could have gotten...

I hope for scenario 2... for scenario 1.. will further bankrupt my nation.. whjile scenario 2.. will allow gastrade and export of produce to russia to restore alowing my nations economy to restore... (though we ofcourse never get back many of the 100+ year old factories who left or went bust... it is MUCH harder to rebuild those than it was to just keep running them...
Viimeisin muokkaaja on De Hollandse Ezel; 21.11.2024 klo 9.09
So more real estate is opening up for BlackRock I see. Good for them and their portfolio. :Dosh:
vkobe 21.11.2024 klo 9.12 
Vox lähetti viestin:
Use a storm shadow on Putin's bunker
not working, we see it hit bunker and what i read the bunker dont suffer too much damage, only surface are damaged, but underground look fine, you need gbu and bunbker buster, so mostly a bomber need to fly over the target to drop its bombs

cruise missile suck vs underground bunker
1 usa has killed any chance of democracy in russia for a long long time.. putins dead will help nobody... the oliarchs hold the real power.. and the nato agression and expention the poverty due shock doctrine.. and many decades of hardship and propaganda.. you won't easely break the minds of the common russian man or woman either...

so while yes a revolt must happen in russia.. and lynching putin would be a good start (after which lynch also those oliarchs and redistribute their property.. but make sure this time the moderates (aka democratic mensjevists) and not the technocratic boslhevists win...

if ANYBODY at this point things that russians are helped by an outsider taking out their leader.. sure many russians hate putin.. but nothing will unite them behind their corrupt goverment than an ourside enemy of old taking out their head of state...

no the only way it could end well if it the russians themself get rid of him.. it can not be anybody else to be effective..
Mega Ultra Chicken (Porttikiellossa) 21.11.2024 klo 9.23 
I see the military industrial complex doesn't want to end this war
Mega Ultra Chicken lähetti viestin:
I see the military industrial complex doesn't want to end this war

why would they...

-this war drives up the price of usa natural gas = bigger trade surplus usa
-this war forces europe to buy millions of gas and weapons from usa = bigger trade surplus usa
'-this war forces europe to buy gas from usa not russia = more geopolical power to usa.. less to russia)
-this war severly weakens the eu = elimination of a future rival as global dominant power
-this war severly weakons russia = elimination of an old rival
it is pure profit to the usa..

it is us in european nations who pay by having our economy ruined
those in russia who have their economy ruined and killed by the thousands
those in ukraine who are killed by the thousands... and have their stuff shot to pieces...

to usa it is an all you can eat profit buffet.. of which anybody but them pay the bill..
Viimeisin muokkaaja on De Hollandse Ezel; 21.11.2024 klo 9.29
De Hollandse Ezel lähetti viestin:
Mega Ultra Chicken lähetti viestin:
I see the military industrial complex doesn't want to end this war

why would they...

-this war drives up the price of usa natural gas = bigger trade surplus usa
-this war forces europe to buy millions of gas and weapons from usa = bigger trade surplus usa
'-this war forces europe to buy gas from usa not russia = more geopolical power to usa.. less to russia)
-this war severly weakens the eu = elimination of a future rival as global dominant power
-this war severly weakons russia = elimination of an old rival
it is pure profit to the usa..

it is us in european nations who pay by having our economy ruined
those in russia who have their economy ruined and killed by the thousands
those in ukraine who are killed by the thousands... and have their stuff shot to pieces...

to usa it is an all you can eat profit buffet.. of which anybody but them pay the bill..
Which is exactly why trump will not do anything to stop the war. Especially when it means ukraine losing, because nobody will pay the loans then.
Mega Ultra Chicken (Porttikiellossa) 21.11.2024 klo 9.39 
De Hollandse Ezel lähetti viestin:
Mega Ultra Chicken lähetti viestin:
I see the military industrial complex doesn't want to end this war

why would they...

-this war drives up the price of usa natural gas = bigger trade surplus usa
-this war forces europe to buy millions of gas and weapons from usa = bigger trade surplus usa
'-this war forces europe to buy gas from usa not russia = more geopolical power to usa.. less to russia)
-this war severly weakens the eu = elimination of a future rival as global dominant power
-this war severly weakons russia = elimination of an old rival
it is pure profit to the usa..

it is us in european nations who pay by having our economy ruined
those in russia who have their economy ruined and killed by the thousands
those in ukraine who are killed by the thousands... and have their stuff shot to pieces...

to usa it is an all you can eat profit buffet.. of which anybody but them pay the bill..
Everything was cheaper when Trump was in office and we didn't have 2 wars.
Mega Ultra Chicken (Porttikiellossa) 21.11.2024 klo 9.41 
oldirty` lähetti viestin:
De Hollandse Ezel lähetti viestin:

why would they...

-this war drives up the price of usa natural gas = bigger trade surplus usa
-this war forces europe to buy millions of gas and weapons from usa = bigger trade surplus usa
'-this war forces europe to buy gas from usa not russia = more geopolical power to usa.. less to russia)
-this war severly weakens the eu = elimination of a future rival as global dominant power
-this war severly weakons russia = elimination of an old rival
it is pure profit to the usa..

it is us in european nations who pay by having our economy ruined
those in russia who have their economy ruined and killed by the thousands
those in ukraine who are killed by the thousands... and have their stuff shot to pieces...

to usa it is an all you can eat profit buffet.. of which anybody but them pay the bill..
Which is exactly why trump will not do anything to stop the war. Especially when it means ukraine losing, because nobody will pay the loans then.
Trump is friends with Elon Musk, he will find a way.
Mega Ultra Chicken lähetti viestin:
Ukraine should stop firing U.S. weapons into Russia. Trump wants to negotiate peace.
Trump want to negotiate Ukraine's submission. Not peace.

Remember Crimea people. It didn't stop there.

Whatever "peace" Trump will achieve will just give Russia time to rearm and invade again later.
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