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seven_legs 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 12:27
how much pollution does womens make up cause?
just wondering because as i see it nearly every woman i see in life, telly and everything are wearing make up?
just curious as its hard to internet search for it.
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Devsman 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 12:30 
"I like girls who don't wear any makeup" = "I like girls who wear their makeup properly, and I'm unaware that that one girl I think is just ugly is actually who I'm talking about"

If you ask me, we should never have invented such a thing.
最后由 Devsman 编辑于; 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 12:30
Zilkenian Davenport 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 12:40 
I wasn't aware that makeup could cause enough pollution to get any proper attention.
I mean, if we were talking about the 70's and prior.... but now?
最后由 Zilkenian Davenport 编辑于; 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 12:46
seven_legs 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 12:40 
it just made me think watching the COP26 thing.
the vampire of time and memory 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 12:45 
not so bad since more countries started banning microbeads
Morkonan 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 2:05 
not so bad since more countries started banning microbeads

^-- This.

Most of the ingredients for "make-up" are pretty mundane and, by necessity, non-toxic. Facial cleansers did used to use plastic/silicone micro-beads and so did industrial handsoaps. Changes were made to include natural abrasives like walnut shells and similar products that would degrade over time. The issue wasn't originally raised due to environmental concerns as much as it was the fact that the micro-beads would eventually clog up even industrial plumbing. However, these days, everyone wants an "Environmentally Friendly" label on their products, so...

Many nations ban the use of certain compounds in common detergents and that extends, AFAIK, to hygiene and cosmetic products. So, for instance, products containing phosphates would have been included on this kind of list as well as some other environmentally problematic compounds.

Perhaps more problematic than the small amount of cosmetics waste that may make it into water systems would be the applicators and removal wipes used in conjunction with those. The containers used are often entirely designed for appeal rather than environmental friendliness and these may represent more risk than the products they contain. Of particular note, certain metals used in decorate closures/tops and containers as well as certain dyes used for glass/etc could have very real concerns individually, but not likely as part of an overall group. (I would not trust certain regions to produce safe, quality, products in this regard, though they would be very likely to be the "lowest bidder." For a reason...)

An issue regarding the addition of either "vitamins" or hormone/hormone-inducing chemicals is one that could arise as well. While these are in no way equal to the impact of supplements, human waste containing added hormones/other, and improperly disposed of pharmaceuticals, there may be a small impact there directly from certain sorts of "personal care" products.

(Personal Care, Human Hygiene, etc products are those meant for direct human use as in "human body" use, but below "pharmaceutical grade." That includes hair care, cosmetics, lotions, etc, but excludes some other products meant for temporary use, like handsoaps and the like. Manufacturing of these specialty products requires additional oversight and production precautions. This is typically called "White Room" production in the industry. ie: Super clean, precise, production and regulatory oversight of a special qualified facility using Food/Pharma grade quality-controlled materials.)

Naturally derived pigments and the like wouldn't represent a significant problem relative to more concerning matters. Again, the notion of putting toxic substances on one's skin is generally something that manufacturers want to avoid... However, not all nations have the same regulatory requirements and some regions are noted for flagrant abuse and a clear lack of regulatory oversight. Several very notable exceptions to basic human care have come from very well known, bad, manufacturing regions of the world... The chance of a cosmetic product containing toxic materials nobody else in their right mind would ever use is markedly higher in these regions, especially when they're shipped to other regions that region doesn't like very much.

A note on "fragrances" - While these would not be likely to represent any sort of significant environmental concern, there are concerns about certain precursors and ingredients used in the manufacturing of these. I feel that they do need much more attention than they are normally given. Some of the compounds used are decidedly "bad for everything, ever."

And, yes, I'm kind of familiar with all this stuff, though my working knowledge is a bit dated and I haven't had to ref a CFR or other regulatory document in awhile. (Chemical industry)
最后由 Morkonan 编辑于; 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 2:10
Fake 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 2:08 
The make up, by itself isn't the problem. It's the manufacturing, packaging, and shipping that are the pollution emitters.
ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 2:09 
my makeup is vegan and natural so doesn't really pollute as theres nothing toxic in it and no "forever chemicals"

I can't think of any makeup that would contribute to pollution, when makeup is vegan its not because of it having less pollutants but more do with animal ingredients and testing on animals.
NS Plover 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 2:24 
I worry more about how much single use plastic crap people use every day and how much junk take-out food causes (ketchup/mustard/relish packages, plastic knives/forks other one time use junk)...
最后由 NS Plover 编辑于; 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 2:26
Fajita Jim 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 2:33 
引用自 NS Plover
I worry more about how much single use plastic crap people use every day and how much junk take-out food causes (ketchup/mustard/relish packages, plastic knives/forks other one time use junk)...

I can look at almost any package design and think of 100 ways to reduce the size. And don't dare order fingernail clippers from Amazon. They'll send them to you in a CRT TV box, I swear.
Rumpelcrutchskin 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 2:33 
All the plastic used for holding and packaging of all this goo is much larger problem then substances they use for goo itself. World is literally drowning in used plastic.
NS Plover 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 2:50 
And then you have to ask - how frequently do people buy it... So the fingernail clippers - 5 to 10 years. How about the plastic on the ketchup/relish/mustard/ hamburger containers?
Fajita Jim 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 2:53 
引用自 NS Plover
And then you have to ask - how frequently do people buy it... So the fingernail clippers - 5 to 10 years. How about the plastic on the ketchup/relish/mustard/ hamburger containers?

About anything small I've ordered from Amazon has come in large, way oversized packaging. From USB sticks and SATA cables, to Zippo lighters and fountain pens. It's rare to get something properly packaged from there.
NS Plover 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 2:59 
A lot of makeup comes in glass bottles which is probably better than plastic.

What is more damaging is North America shipping off raw materials to Asia and then then shipping it back as finished products. Totally beats out anything womens makeup is doing...
NS Plover 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 3:02 
引用自 Fajita Jim
引用自 NS Plover
And then you have to ask - how frequently do people buy it... So the fingernail clippers - 5 to 10 years. How about the plastic on the ketchup/relish/mustard/ hamburger containers?

About anything small I've ordered from Amazon has come in large, way oversized packaging. From USB sticks and SATA cables, to Zippo lighters and fountain pens. It's rare to get something properly packaged from there.
Assuming you are buying it from Amazon instead of a local store... Local stores get it in bulk without as much packaging...
Fajita Jim 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 3:12 
引用自 NS Plover
引用自 Fajita Jim

About anything small I've ordered from Amazon has come in large, way oversized packaging. From USB sticks and SATA cables, to Zippo lighters and fountain pens. It's rare to get something properly packaged from there.
Assuming you are buying it from Amazon instead of a local store... Local stores get it in bulk without as much packaging...

Our local stores turned into Antique stores. Seriously, that's all that could survive Walmart. And I'm not kidding at all. Every. Damn. One. Of. Them.

https://www.bing.com/maps?q=antique+stores+in+clinton+tn&FORM=QSRE1

And I don't shop at Walmart unless I'm forced to. The Waltons are am evil persons.
最后由 Fajita Jim 编辑于; 2021 年 11 月 16 日 下午 3:14
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