If God "saved" Trump, why did the firefighter die?

[Dom]

I've heard people saying that God saved Trump from death.

But if God has the power to change the direction of the bullet and he did so in order to save Trump, why did he allow the bullet to kill that firefighter? Is this in line with the religious teaching that all life is equally valuable and everyone is born equal? Is Trump's life more valuable to God than the firefighter's life?

I'm also wondering, how does the family and relatives of the firefighter react to all of those people who say that God saved Trump?
Isn't it kind of offensive to say that?

What do you think?

[Hobbit XIII]

Mensis lähetti viestin:

Hobbit XIII lähetti viestin:

Loki / Lucky meaning it was not God but from that angle. There is no derailment other than you complaining about one.

As a matter of fact, it is derailment when you cause the thread to get on a completely different topic, especially when your statement was factually wrong as mentioned. Several replies on this thread are not about the topic of the thread because you decided to say something that has nothing to do with anything.

1. It was the same topic, it is a theological and moral opening post. People often take shots at Christianity and other religious beliefs, they often try to portray a person of faith or belief or religion as one thing.
Which has been proven throughout history rarely are these things the same to all people.

2. people are wrong all the time.
Many debating points are not correct but still get discussed in way or another.

3. If you are unable to understand how it is similar then feel free to take a debate with people within the thread in your direction.

and again this is an actual derailment from yourself.

[Mensis]

Hobbit XIII lähetti viestin:

Mensis lähetti viestin:

As a matter of fact, it is derailment when you cause the thread to get on a completely different topic, especially when your statement was factually wrong as mentioned. Several replies on this thread are not about the topic of the thread because you decided to say something that has nothing to do with anything.

1. It was the same topic, it is a theological and moral opening post. People often take shots at Christianity and other religious beliefs, they often try to portray a person of faith or belief or religion as one thing.
Which has been proven throughout history rarely are these things the same to all people.

2. people are wrong all the time.
Many debating points are not correct but still get discussed in way or another.

3. If you are unable to understand how it is similar then feel free to take a debate with people within the thread in your direction.

and again this is an actual derailment from yourself.

"Nuh uh, I'm not derailing, YOU are!"

Such a child.

[peppermint hollows]

Hobbit XIII lähetti viestin:

Mensis lähetti viestin:

As a matter of fact, it is derailment when you cause the thread to get on a completely different topic, especially when your statement was factually wrong as mentioned. Several replies on this thread are not about the topic of the thread because you decided to say something that has nothing to do with anything.

1. It was the same topic, it is a theological and moral opening post. People often take shots at Christianity and other religious beliefs, they often try to portray a person of faith or belief or religion as one thing.
Which has been proven throughout history rarely are these things the same to all people.

Which you weren't even trying to say anything about. You just made up a fake etymological "fact" and derailed the thread with it, and insisted you were correct right up until someone provided sources stating otherwise, after which you decided you were going to refuse to read and pretend like you were trying to make some other point.

[Hobbit XIII]

peppermint hollows lähetti viestin:

Hobbit XIII lähetti viestin:

1. It was the same topic, it is a theological and moral opening post. People often take shots at Christianity and other religious beliefs, they often try to portray a person of faith or belief or religion as one thing.
Which has been proven throughout history rarely are these things the same to all people.

Which you weren't even trying to say anything about. You just made up a fake etymological "fact" and derailed the thread with it, and insisted you were correct right up until someone provided sources stating otherwise, after which you decided you were going to refuse to read and pretend like you were trying to make some other point.

Debate, learn what it is about.

I wanted to see what they had to say.

Not everything I say is meant to be all knowing even at times when I joke about myself in that sense.
Not everything everybody says is what they already know

That should be cleared up now.

[peppermint hollows]

Hobbit XIII lähetti viestin:

peppermint hollows lähetti viestin:

Which you weren't even trying to say anything about. You just made up a fake etymological "fact" and derailed the thread with it, and insisted you were correct right up until someone provided sources stating otherwise, after which you decided you were going to refuse to read and pretend like you were trying to make some other point.

Debate, learn what it is about.

I wanted to see what they had to say.

Not everything I say is meant to be all knowing even at times when I joke about myself in that sense.
Not everything everybody says is what they already know

That should be cleared up now.

That didn't clear anything up because what you said makes little sense, it was a lot of words to really say very little

And that aside, doesn't change the fact that what you made the thread about actually had nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

[Elation]

peppermint hollows lähetti viestin:

Hobbit XIII lähetti viestin:

Debate, learn what it is about.

I wanted to see what they had to say.

Not everything I say is meant to be all knowing even at times when I joke about myself in that sense.
Not everything everybody says is what they already know

That should be cleared up now.

That didn't clear anything up because what you said makes little sense, it was a lot of words to really say very little :seriousboss:

And that aside, doesn't change the fact that what you made the thread about actually had nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

It's because he thinks he's the arbiter of what's on topic on a thread and what's not. He decides if it's derailment or not.

Even if he's very obviously doing the derailing himself.

[↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect]

God didn't save trump the devil did and the devil killed that firefighter. God don't save the devils minions.

[Auckes]

King Narwhal lähetti viestin:

As we get more information on the situation, I will gladly also lump blame on whoever, if anyone, outright encouraged this behavior. I just don't have the info to make that judgement right now, especially with how we still haven't even established the true motive yet.

I just don't want to do like so many people here are doing and jump to conspiracy theories about how the other team is absolutely evil and planned for this to happen because they're evil.

You speak well, once again. Problem is, your current analysis here, clashes against "the blame lies *entirely* on the nutjob", which you posted earlier.

Somebody who waits on the situation as it unveils and sees, generally avoids strong words and quick, abrupt disclosures. Word *entirely* is contradictory.

Generally, in my line of work, i would eye particularly suspiciously, over at contradictions like those. But i am accustomed in doing exactly that which you describe right here; wait and see. So, i will just use it as a placeholder reference. Thank you for the insightful conversation!

[Hairy Hands Harry]

Vox lähetti viestin:

Maybe the devil saved Trump..

This is what happened. God sent the shooter. Satan deflected the bullet.

[Rain't]

Dom lähetti viestin:

I've heard people saying that God saved Trump from death.

But if God has the power to change the direction of the bullet and he did so in order to save Trump, why did he allow the bullet to kill that firefighter? Is this in line with the religious teaching that all life is equally valuable and everyone is born equal? Is Trump's life more valuable to God than the firefighter's life?

I'm also wondering, how does the family and relatives of the firefighter react to all of those people who say that God saved Trump?
Isn't it kind of offensive to say that?

What do you think?

Because religious people don't make sense.

Humans like to explain the world around them- even if it's through made-up stories.

Zeus, Thor, Ra, Vulcan, Poseidon, Chac, Indra, Hephaestus, Perun, Tlaloc, the list goes on much longer.

They'll tell you the same recited ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ over and over. "God works in mysterious ways." or something to that sentiment

[Reddari]

Rain't lähetti viestin:

Zeus, Thor, Ra, Vulcan, Poseidon, Chac, Indra, Hephaestus, Perun, Tlaloc, the list goes on much longer.

All those characters are about as made up as this president Trump guy.

Just wait 1000 years and see what they say about Trump.

[Rain't]

Reddari lähetti viestin:

Rain't lähetti viestin:

Zeus, Thor, Ra, Vulcan, Poseidon, Chac, Indra, Hephaestus, Perun, Tlaloc, the list goes on much longer.

All those characters are about as made up as this president Trump guy.

Just wait 1000 years and see what they say about Trump.

I'm not sure I understand the sentiment you're aiming for

[Shadow]

God definitely didn't save Trump. Lol. Trump isn't a pious person. You should how he alienates non whites.

[Hobbit XIII]

Rain't lähetti viestin:

Dom lähetti viestin:

I've heard people saying that God saved Trump from death.

But if God has the power to change the direction of the bullet and he did so in order to save Trump, why did he allow the bullet to kill that firefighter? Is this in line with the religious teaching that all life is equally valuable and everyone is born equal? Is Trump's life more valuable to God than the firefighter's life?

I'm also wondering, how does the family and relatives of the firefighter react to all of those people who say that God saved Trump?
Isn't it kind of offensive to say that?

What do you think?

Because religious people don't make sense.

Humans like to explain the world around them- even if it's through made-up stories.

Zeus, Thor, Ra, Vulcan, Poseidon, Chac, Indra, Hephaestus, Perun, Tlaloc, the list goes on much longer.

They'll tell you the same recited ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ over and over. "God works in mysterious ways." or something to that sentiment

Do I?

[Locke]

We are at "why do good people die" reddit tier atheism.
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