Microsoft fire its entire DEI team

[AdahnGorion]

As the title said. Microsoft have fired their entire DEI team (Diversity, equity, and inclusion)
Microsoft is announcing that it is changing business needs.

Its important to note that BlackRock and Vanguard are the biggest investors in Microsoft and that ie. BlackRock just recently said they wanted to move away from EGS focuses and instead "broaden" their investment policy. This could have had an impact on Microsofts new direction

What do you think about this? Do you think its a good direction? Do you think this will effect many things (including gaming) remember Microsoft have a Xbox division that comprise of many game publishers/studios, such as but not limited to A/B and ZeniMax.

In my opinion, its a logical shift, as many of the DEI implementations have skewed hiring practices, with some degree of even discrimination and that is the polar opposite of what it was supposed to do in the first place.

Many consumers have also rejected many products and companies that follow DEI protocols and as we know they can´t live without the consumers! Don´t get me wrong btw! I personally support diversity and social progression in workplaces, but I am extremely biased towards having merit surpass everything and a focus on people being equal, without boxing them in various labels.

At an end here. Please be respectful to everybody and their views and remember we are all biased towards various views. Its vital that we focus on debate and what could change or come instead, rather than focus on division and attacking..

Have a wonderful day all.

Source
https://nypost.com/2024/07/17/business/microsoft-fires-dei-team-becoming-latest-company-to-ditch-woke-policy-report/

[Tito Shivan]

Spoiler: It's the same dogs with different collars. Changing the means, not the end.

[Original Cast Recording]

The entire team? What if some of those people didn't "deserve" to be fired? Where's the "meritocracy" in that? Hopefully they got some sweet contract buyouts or something.

(Personally, I don't use or avoid companies based on their DEI policy or lack thereof.)

[AdahnGorion]

Origineel geplaatst door Maximum Disambiguation:

The entire team? What if some of those people didn't "deserve" to be fired? Where's the "meritocracy" in that? Hopefully they got some sweet contract buyouts or something.

(Personally, I don't use or avoid companies based on their DEI policy or lack thereof.)

Yes the entire team (divison) was fired.
The company is following another business route and hence everybody was fired.

Obviously, if you don´t need x or y employee, because you don´t use said service anymore then its perfectly fine. I am sure the employee´s was compensated and can find work in other companies or as a new job within the company.

In my opinion its odd to even have a DEI team when you already have HR.
HR have always (long before people talked about DEI) done much of the same as a DEI team would, its just that the HR employee´s are often better educated and are multi functioning.


The vast majority of companies made their own EGS scores via their DEI teams. IE. we have examples of companies that do massive damage to the enviroment, but scores higher than a company that does the opposite... its kinda a joke within the investment circles.

If I don´t remember wrong BP have a high EGS score ie.... BP !!!!!


Anyway.. I welcome this change, hopefully it sends shockwaves down other sectors as well and instead starts to focus on actual proper enviromental focuses and worker protection.

[Blunt Raps]

Wow. These companies are catching on quickly.

I was predicting a decade of continued pressure before the massive corps stopped pushing racism and mutilation.

Its only been like 3 years, grow some balls microsoft.

[Vince ✟]

I don't know much about all this, but I'm interpreting it as a return to reason.

[ℭycaleo]

I somehow read diy team

[Tito Shivan]

Origineel geplaatst door Blunt Raps:

Its only been like 3 years, grow some balls microsoft.

I wouldn't sell the bear's fur before hunting it.

[Saturnalia]

Are we likely to see the effects of this in the games Microsoft publishes?

[AdahnGorion]

Origineel geplaatst door Tito Shivan:

Spoiler: It's the same dogs with different collars. Changing the means, not the end.

You are to some extend correct, as some of them will just become HR or the HR will take over.
But I still think this puts out a signal and it makes sense given the current climate in BlackRock and Vanguard.

[Good Night Owl]

I think catering products towards people who feel insecure in their own body is a waste of money. Just make a fun game, and go for the largest demographic, instead of trying to go for all. They won't get all anyway, so why spend the money?

[Blunt Raps]

Origineel geplaatst door Tito Shivan:

Origineel geplaatst door Blunt Raps:

Its only been like 3 years, grow some balls microsoft.

I wouldn't sell the bear's fur before hunting it.

Its ok, the fur is so filled with holes, itll be sold as scrap anyway

[metamec]

Origineel geplaatst door AdahnGorion:

In my opinion its odd to even have a DEI team when you already have HR.
HR have always (long before people talked about DEI) done much of the same as a DEI team would, its just that the HR employee´s are often better educated and are multi functioning.

DEI employees *are* HR employees.

They are HR employees who specialise in a specific branch of HR. It's possible to disband DEI and reintegrate those who specialised in it back into generic HR.

Lindsay-Rae McIntyre who was at one point I think chief of DEI at Microsoft was the HR lead at IBM for decades before she joined Microsoft.

[Tito Shivan]

Origineel geplaatst door Good Night Owl:

I think catering products towards people who feel insecure in their own body is a waste of money.

Like every teenager in history?

Origineel geplaatst door AdahnGorion:

But I still think this puts out a signal and it makes sense given the current climate in BlackRock and Vanguard.

That's the thing. There's no signal. No real change happening.

[AdahnGorion]

Origineel geplaatst door metamec:

Origineel geplaatst door AdahnGorion:

In my opinion its odd to even have a DEI team when you already have HR.
HR have always (long before people talked about DEI) done much of the same as a DEI team would, its just that the HR employee´s are often better educated and are multi functioning.

DEI employees *are* HR employees.

They are HR employees who specialise in a specific branch of HR. It's possible to disband DEI and reintegrate those who specialised in it back into generic HR.

Lindsay-Rae McIntyre who was at one point I think chief of DEI at Microsoft was the HR lead at IBM for decades before she joined Microsoft.

As said earlier. most well educated HR employee´s (I reckon in the US its a master degree or well maybe even only bachelor, here most would have a candidate) would already cover the area that people call DEI.

But I assume that when all the focus is on the DEI, then you also lose track of many other important aspects of HR. I also assume that some of the people that have low degree (diploma or bachelor) centered around DEI stuff (the US have that right? we don´t or rather we have it structured within some educations where you can take it as a course) they might not be renewed.

But overall.. its just everybody leaving the DEI terminology.. BlackRock said they think the term had become to political polarized and they did not want anything to do with that.

Personally I still think this will end up changing various things, such as hiring practices and so forth. Its been really odd the way the US have handled things lately.

[AdahnGorion]

Origineel geplaatst door Tito Shivan:

Origineel geplaatst door Good Night Owl:

I think catering products towards people who feel insecure in their own body is a waste of money.

Like every teenager in history?

Origineel geplaatst door AdahnGorion:

But I still think this puts out a signal and it makes sense given the current climate in BlackRock and Vanguard.

That's the thing. There's no signal. No real change happening.

I do think we will see small changes.
BlackRock seems to wanna focus more on the E in the DEI in terms of investments and I think many large corpos are tired of various factors within the DEI spectrum.. it has felt forced and without much point.. some have just "cheated with it" some have just done quota ticking as well.

But overall the change will most likely just be more "hidden" and non "public" as that is where all the backlash have been from