Hey any gun nuts here? Why HK 416 and not SCAR?

[Chenni]

No, I mean not in games. But rather irl military.

Why "Special Forces" choosing HK 416 variants over the SCAR for 5.56?

[Triple G]

Corruption?

[NW/RL]

If I had to guess, a custom AR clone is probably cheaper than making a SCAR

[cassette]

the common USASOC rifle rn is still a m4a1 with a set of URGI 14.5 and 11.5 barreled uppers
mk17s are still in arms rooms but nobody likes them for the reciprocating charging handle likes to catch on thumbs and cover, and there's no reason for a 556 scar when the m4 is in service

[Steve]

One starts with H. The other starts with S. Maybe they were going alphabetically and chose the first one on the list.

[Swarmfly]

Why the fuss? All such weapons are functionally identical no matter their trappings.

[StyledNebula]

Gun nuts? My nuts got blown off by a gun so does that count?

[Heraclius Caesar]

Автор сообщения: Chenni

No, I mean not in games. But rather irl military.

Why "Special Forces" choosing HK 416 variants over the SCAR for 5.56?

I could have swore they Did use the SCAR, at least some years ago

Edit: The SCAR is still in use by Special Forces units in 20+ countries

[a profile]

SCAR's pretty heavy. Not much reason to chamber it in 5.56. As a result it tends to be more of a battle rifle and doesn't see much use without .308 or 7.62.

416 meanwhile looks compatiable with all STANAG mags and extant NATO equipment, without any parts kits. Different role though, based on the minimalist frame and choice of caliber.

[Basho]

in addition to what has already been mentioned, im also guessing there is a case to be made for multiple interoperable armed forces to use similar service weapons, allowing for both platform familiarity and logistical benefits.

im guessing production is also a factor, seeing as 416 uses a prolific pattern rather than a strictly proprietary one.

the HK416 is using a short stroke system, as is the SCAR, so there is no real difference in usage scenarios as far as the action goes.

so while it is hard to account for various lobbying factors and such, in the end it can come down to a proverbial coin toss what gets picked up

but that is all my speculations, so take it as you will.

[Stranger]

the main concern in regards to choosing 5.56 is a combination of ammo volume (20% more carrying capacity for 5.56 vs 7.62) and cost (5.56 is about 15% cheaper per round.) once a round is chosen the viable platforms narrow considerably, and if cost is the primary concern then the SCAR's proprietary platform is undesirable.

[WarHeRo]

Автор сообщения: StyledNebula

Gun nuts? My nuts got blown off by a gun so does that count?

sounds like u had a blast

[Iron Knights]

What video game did you pull those from ?
SBRs are for extreme ops. not for the average soldier.
USA Army reached the conclusion that for a mid range rifle the barrel has to be bet. 18-20in..
They settled on 18.5in. on the (AR) M-16A2, that lasted from Vietnam to about 2012.
M4-A2 is a Downgrade from every aspect, I wouldn't try to hit 300m targets with it, stick with 200m.

[Ulfrinn]

Is personally avoid all piston based AR15s like the 416. If you want versatility and customization, AR-15 is king by a wide margin. The only thing the SCAR provides over it is the ability to fold the stock.