Tim Walz let Minneapolis burn during the BLM riots

[Shocker]

Later Kamala Harris bailed the protesters out from prison. This is the person who Kamala Harris chose as her Vice President candidate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYmeKsKC_Qw

[Pronoun Paladin ☯]

Postat inițial de Boblin the Goblin:

Postat inițial de Chunk Norris ☯:

Essentially they are the same thing. One you have to request and the other you get automatically. But both end up being voting by mail.

Except they aren't.

You can be denied an absentee ballot. You cannot be denied a mail-in ballot. For voting by mail, that was completely dependant on the country you lived regardless of your reason to request one.

So no, the only similarity they share is "mail".

so...they're votes...that go by mail....but can't be called vote by mail because you say so?

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Camel toe Harris can't run as she is to old. She is the exact same age as biden is. So she is to old to run.

[AdahnGorion]

Postat inițial de stupid cool:

blm were peaceful protests for the most part

I guess it depends on what you consider peaceful.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Postat inițial de Chunk Norris ☯:

Postat inițial de Boblin the Goblin:

Except they aren't.

You can be denied an absentee ballot. You cannot be denied a mail-in ballot. For voting by mail, that was completely dependant on the country you lived regardless of your reason to request one.

So no, the only similarity they share is "mail".

so...they're votes...that go by mail....but can't be called vote by mail because you say so?

Seems like you're having trouble reading the difference.

Absentee Ballot: Must be requested and can be denied if the reason for request is not found sufficient. Usually used for military overseas and people who cannot physically get to a voting booth.

Voting By Mail: Can be requested by anyone and doesn't have the same restrictions that allow for denial of the request. Was only allowed in counties that allow it.

Mail-In Ballot: A ballot that is required to be sent to the address of every registered voter in the state. The only restriction is you must be a registered voter with their address listed.

Despite these, California has been Blue for much longer than you said. Unless you honestly believe that absentee ballots can completely swing and election.

I understand that honesty isn't the policy in these conversations but sometimes it's good to try a new policy.

[Saturn830]

Postat inițial de Chunk Norris ☯:

lying about going into war

Source on Walz claiming he was in combat?

[Haruspex]

Postat inițial de Chunk Norris ☯:

Stolen Valor and lying about going into war with weapons of war and supporting violating his oath to protect the Constitution are more serious then Trump 34 politically motivated felonies.

Didn't your 78 year old candidate once try and give himself the Medal of Honor? He was told he could not by his aides.
Didn't your candidate receive a total of 5 draft deferments for "bone spurs"? A condition considered permanent which somehow didn't interfere with him playing sports and magically disappeared when he was no longer draft eligible?
Didn't your candidate call the more than 1,800 US Marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood "suckers"? Didn't he also hint that the US should not have intervened against fascism in Europe in 1917, citing "Who were the good guys in the war?"
Didn't your candidate cancel a visit to a World War I cemetery stating, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." Also stating that the presence of maimed US veterans would upset spectators at a military parade, stating, "Nobody wants to see that."
Didn't your guy stand at the grave of his chief-of-staff's son, 1st Lt. Robert Kelly and say, "I don't get it. What was in it for them?"
Didn't your candidate reportedly wear decorations and medals he didn't earn while attending a military academy as a young man?
Didn't your guy call literal war-hero and fellow Republican John McCain a "loser" because he was captured and spent five years in a POW camp?

Tim Walz served in the Army National Guard for 24 years. He reached the rank of command sergeant major before the end of his service. He wasn't exactly a front-line soldier, but he served his country with honor and that's more than you can say for Trump who has shown nothing but disdain for the US military service men and women.

Postat inițial de Saturn830:

Postat inițial de Chunk Norris ☯:

lying about going into war

Source on Walz claiming he was in combat?

Walz trained in heavy artillery and deployed overseas, but never saw combat. Any claim that he ever said otherwise is manufactured.

[Ysosrscat]

Postat inițial de Haruspex:

Postat inițial de Chunk Norris ☯:

Stolen Valor and lying about going into war with weapons of war and supporting violating his oath to protect the Constitution are more serious then Trump 34 politically motivated felonies.

Didn't your 78 year old candidate once try and give himself the Medal of Honor? He was told he could not by his aides.
Didn't your candidate receive a total of 5 draft deferments for "bone spurs"? A condition considered permanent which somehow didn't interfere with him playing sports and magically disappeared when he was no longer draft eligible?
Didn't your candidate call the more than 1,800 US Marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood "suckers"? Didn't he also hint that the US should not have intervened against fascism in Europe in 1917, citing "Who were the good guys in the war?"
Didn't your candidate cancel a visit to a World War I cemetery stating, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." Also stating that the presence of maimed US veterans would upset spectators at a military parade, stating, "Nobody wants to see that."
Didn't your guy stand at the grave of his chief-of-staff's son, 1st Lt. Robert Kelly and say, "I don't get it. What was in it for them?"
Didn't your candidate reportedly wear decorations and medals he didn't earn while attending a military academy as a young man?
Didn't your guy call literal war-hero and fellow Republican John McCain a "loser" because he was captured and spent five years in a POW camp?

Tim Walz served in the Army National Guard for 24 years. He reached the rank of command sergeant major before the end of his service. He wasn't exactly a front-line soldier, but he served his country with honor and that's more than you can say for Trump who has shown nothing but disdain for the US military service men and women.

Postat inițial de Saturn830:

Source on Walz claiming he was in combat?

Walz trained in heavy artillery and deployed overseas, but never saw combat. Any claim that he ever said otherwise is manufactured.

He didn't

He abandoned his troops as they were being deployed.

The democrats know they are the party of soy.

Not beating the charge
"To counter the impression that they were effete, Democrats, with
Rahm Emanuel leading the congressional campaign committee,
went out and recruited dozens of young veterans of the wars in Iraq
and Afghanistan. Walz was one of them."
https://x.com/miltimore79/status/1821288094240227593

They deliberately recruited him and mislead people on his service, and he deliberately ran off that misapprehension, you can see him imply he served in war over and over again.

He was a weekend warrior, and then when it was time, he left and let his people down.

This is a failure of not just leadership but manhood on a fundamental level, if you choose to serve, its a duty to your country and your men.

All you have is fake quotes from your fake media

The only sucker is you.

These are real quotes.

Stolen Valor: Tim Walz launched political career on false claim as combat veteran in the War on Terror

https://www.dossier.today/p/stolen-valor-tim-walz-launched-political

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUG0hkr1o2A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYPaMB6l10E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fobMdFLAk24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg35J1o8uyk


You can make up fake quotes, you can lie and squirm, but the reality is this, no one will serve under your fraudulent regime.

Nothing about the democrat is credible or legitimate.

Tim Walz and the democrat party are treason, and it shows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sLjddnSVi8

[Caldari Ghost]

No one cares

[Saturn830]

Postat inițial de Haruspex:

Walz trained in heavy artillery and deployed overseas, but never saw combat. Any claim that he ever said otherwise is manufactured.

Yes, and I'm asking for evidence of that claim from Walz because another poster implied it existed without any supporting evidence.

Edit: Sorry Haruspex, I completely misread what you said.

[Haruspex]

Postat inițial de Ysosrscat:

He abandoned his troops as they were being deployed.

He retired honorably months before that deployment, and he could not have known about the deployment before it happened.

Postat inițial de Saturn830:

Edit: Sorry Haruspex, I completely misread what you said.

No worries.

[Hooch]

Postat inițial de Ysosrscat:

He [Walz] abandoned his troops as they were being deployed.

I don't care for Walz. He's too radical on too many positions for me. But the claim he abandoned his troops is false. It's a hit piece from the GOP, not unlike the typical hitpieces that the Dems launch at Trump 24/7.

Bailing out on his troops

Walz's retirement date was 2 months before the call-up notice, and 10 months before the regiment's actual deployment. In order to get a retirement date, he'd have filed a request for retirement 9-12 months in advance* for it as there is required prep and processing to go through. You can't just up and retire when you want or do so on short notice.

So here's the timeline:

May 2005 - Official retirement from USArmy Reserve
July 2005 - 1st call-up notice for deployment
March 2006 - regiment deployment (1 year after retirement)

He needs to file for retirement 9-12 months prior to his requested retirement date. That means he'd have filed between May - Aug 2004. So this is the revised timeline:

May - Aug 2004 - Walz files for retirement <--- this is when he decides to leave the USAR
May 2005 - Official retirement from US Army Reserve
July 2005 - 1st call-up notice for deployment
March 2006 - regiment deployment (1 year after Walz retirement)


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*It is common for reserve units to have longer times between notice and deployment due to the nature of them being reserve.

An example of this is Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. During these ops, some units received call-up notices several months to a year in advance to allow for comprehensive training and preparation.

sources:

https://www.usar.army.mil/News/News-Display/Article/3625353/human-resources-command-processes-the-armys-retirements/

https://www.startribune.com/fact-check-walz-retired-from-army-national-guard-after-24-years-to-run-for-congress/600962516

https://www.goarmysof.army.mil/Portals/100/Documents/AR%20600-8-19%20ENLISTED%20PROMOTIONS%2025%20Oct%2023.pdf?ver=RmE88wXjEBAo5AbXDnBXRQ%3d%3d

[Saturn830]

That's nice work Hooch. My God, it even has sources!

[Ysosrscat]

Postat inițial de Hooch:

Postat inițial de Ysosrscat:

He [Walz] abandoned his troops as they were being deployed.

I don't care for Walz. He's too radical on too many positions for me. But the claim he abandoned his troops is false. It's a hit piece from the GOP, not unlike the typical hitpieces that the Dems launch at Trump 24/7.

Bailing out on his troops

Fair enough, but the fact remains he campaigned by misleading people that he saw combat, and wouldn't correct the record, which is damning for his character.

[Hooch]

Postat inițial de Ysosrscat:

Postat inițial de Hooch:

I don't care for Walz. He's too radical on too many positions for me. But the claim he abandoned his troops is false. It's a hit piece from the GOP, not unlike the typical hitpieces that the Dems launch at Trump 24/7.

Bailing out on his troops

Fair enough, but the fact remains he campaigned by misleading people that he saw combat, and wouldn't correct the record, which is damning for his character.

That may be. I don't know. I've read a little about the claims, but I keep seeing fair points on both sides. So for me to take up a personal position, it will require more research. I spent some time on Walz' retirement and the issue about his rank (it's a non-issue due to conditional promotions, which are a real thing, and is what he had).

I'm Walz'd out for the day.

TLDR: I don't know what to believe about (yet) it so I'll stay out of it and let those who have more knowldege of the matter duke it out.

[doug]

Postat inițial de Ysosrscat:

Postat inițial de Haruspex:

Didn't your 78 year old candidate once try and give himself the Medal of Honor? He was told he could not by his aides.
Didn't your candidate receive a total of 5 draft deferments for "bone spurs"? A condition considered permanent which somehow didn't interfere with him playing sports and magically disappeared when he was no longer draft eligible?
Didn't your candidate call the more than 1,800 US Marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood "suckers"? Didn't he also hint that the US should not have intervened against fascism in Europe in 1917, citing "Who were the good guys in the war?"
Didn't your candidate cancel a visit to a World War I cemetery stating, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." Also stating that the presence of maimed US veterans would upset spectators at a military parade, stating, "Nobody wants to see that."
Didn't your guy stand at the grave of his chief-of-staff's son, 1st Lt. Robert Kelly and say, "I don't get it. What was in it for them?"
Didn't your candidate reportedly wear decorations and medals he didn't earn while attending a military academy as a young man?
Didn't your guy call literal war-hero and fellow Republican John McCain a "loser" because he was captured and spent five years in a POW camp?

Tim Walz served in the Army National Guard for 24 years. He reached the rank of command sergeant major before the end of his service. He wasn't exactly a front-line soldier, but he served his country with honor and that's more than you can say for Trump who has shown nothing but disdain for the US military service men and women.


Walz trained in heavy artillery and deployed overseas, but never saw combat. Any claim that he ever said otherwise is manufactured.

He didn't

He abandoned his troops as they were being deployed.

The democrats know they are the party of soy.

Not beating the charge
"To counter the impression that they were effete, Democrats, with
Rahm Emanuel leading the congressional campaign committee,
went out and recruited dozens of young veterans of the wars in Iraq
and Afghanistan. Walz was one of them."
https://x.com/miltimore79/status/1821288094240227593

They deliberately recruited him and mislead people on his service, and he deliberately ran off that misapprehension, you can see him imply he served in war over and over again.

He was a weekend warrior, and then when it was time, he left and let his people down.

This is a failure of not just leadership but manhood on a fundamental level, if you choose to serve, its a duty to your country and your men.

All you have is fake quotes from your fake media

The only sucker is you.

These are real quotes.

Stolen Valor: Tim Walz launched political career on false claim as combat veteran in the War on Terror

https://www.dossier.today/p/stolen-valor-tim-walz-launched-political

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUG0hkr1o2A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYPaMB6l10E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fobMdFLAk24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg35J1o8uyk


You can make up fake quotes, you can lie and squirm, but the reality is this, no one will serve under your fraudulent regime.

Nothing about the democrat is credible or legitimate.

Tim Walz and the democrat party are treason, and it shows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sLjddnSVi8

Have you ever heard of a credible source?

You lot literally only post the worst of the worst, most obviously deranged fantastical propaganda. Political satire isn't even funny anymore because right-wing "news" has evolved beyond even the most extreme caricatures.