Modern Dating, what is it exactly men who aren't 8+ supposed to do? (Venting)

[KingAce]

Below average middle age guy... am I just meant to go die in a ditch? Tinder is a meat market for hook ups for the good looking, Legit dating sites are full of bots and only fans thots... so... what exactly am I supposed to do? hope I live long enough to see Blade runner and Joi become reality? super exciting I may one day get to buy a super expensive hologram that will tell me what I want to hear... Society really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. I hate this.

[mz]

I feel like online dating has really impacted the way younger generations date. Most people are considered disposable and many think the grass is greener on the other side. Very few people who "date" online give people an honest chance of getting to know them before ghosting, and thus the result is usually matching for attention/validation and ghosting after a few messages (or 1-2 dates) without giving any reason, predominantly done by women (cue the "misogynist/incel" comments) and therefore leaving many men frustrated with online dating (me included). That, combined with the fact that online dating is a lot more comfortable than being rejected in person, leads many to have the false believe it's joever. Yeah people overall suck more than they used to, too, so it's not just online, but if you look for them in the right places (e.g. not clubs or likewise), chances are you'll meet disproportionately more normal people than not. It just takes energy, and most importantly willpower, to actually go out and seek someone this way.

I love complaining about how ♥♥♥♥♥♥ (online) dating has become, but I am fully aware that it's a very skewed reality. I am simply too lazy (and partially don't have the personality that enjoys it) to go outside and "forcibly" meet new people. If I (and by extent you) really wanted to find someone, I could do it within a matter of a few days or weeks, but, just like you, I don't really want to.

[Z]

Have you tried driving a Lamborghini ?

Nah seriously, dating apps is a royal dump of generic Kim Kardashians and dumpster princesses. But once in a while you may have a good conversation with a cool girl that could lead to something nice.

[Uncle Sam]

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Цитата допису Tywin:

Dating apps are trash for men.

Have you tried changing your location to Kenya?

White men are treated like celebrities by African women in Kenya.

Yes, they are looking for someone to take them out of poverty but they are also traditional and raised differently from westerners.

Well that sounds like another reason more to the pile, as to why corporate dating apps should be nuked from orbit

[Not Big Surprise]

Цитата допису Heraclius Caesar:

Цитата допису L1qu1dator:

You read through all that nonsense?

Sorry to see a Polish brother dismiss the truth and my own life experiences so easily. Not sure what you found nonsensical about what I said but everything in my post was the truth and hopefully OP can derive some benefit from it.

iirc he doesn't even believe in love

[Arvaos]

Цитата допису Uncle Sam:

Цитата допису Arvaos:

Have you tried changing your location to Kenya?

White men are treated like celebrities by African women in Kenya.

Yes, they are looking for someone to take them out of poverty but they are also traditional and raised differently from westerners.

Well that sounds like another reason more to the pile, as to why corporate dating apps should be nuked from orbit

Why? There are many happy Western men that have met women from the global South.

The divorce rates are lower and they are not corrupt by the modernity of the global north.

[Uncle Sam]

Цитата допису Arvaos:

Цитата допису Uncle Sam:

Well that sounds like another reason more to the pile, as to why corporate dating apps should be nuked from orbit

Why? There are many happy Western men that have met women from the global South.

The divorce rates are lower and they are not corrupt by the modernity of the global north.

"Corrupt by the modernity" Eh debatable, is not on the lines of "modernity" but rather how both corporations & goverments have implemented social engineering (see for example the rising suicide rate, higher degree of political polarization, etc) and in the "global south case" how they got their natural resources & human capital stolen among many other factors, therefore letting the vicious cylce of poverty prevail...

From my personal bias, exploiting people in poverty like that is not a decent way live life. Reminds me of how Casinos exploit the weak and prone to addictions...

Edit: If it works for them good for them, but a system like that with those power dynamics also reminds me of monarchy and concubines, which also was not a very ethical part of history...

[Arvaos]

Цитата допису Uncle Sam:

From my personal bias, exploiting people in poverty like that is not a decent way live life. Reminds me of how Casinos exploit the weak and prone to addictions...

Edit: If it works for them good for them, but a system like that with those power dynamics also reminds me of monarchy and concubines, which also was not a very ethical part of history...

I don't think it's exploitative if he's seeking an actual wife and to start a family which is what he mentioned above.

He isn't a sex tourist looking to exploit women.

To search for a mate or partner in a country where they still believe in tradition and family is not exploitative if he is genuine and sincere in his search for a partner.

He is simply searching in a place where the institutions of marriage and family are still highly regarded traditions and not something that people use to celebrate their vanity or narcissism.

[☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n]

What's 8+, is that like a dress size or something?

[kaibarnard]

Yeh I've seen the charts, if you're not a top probably 10% in looks, and you're a man, lower your expectations, Top 30 - 11% you'll see some bites, less then that....slim pickings

Women are 'the prize' on these apps and they know it, and they can afford to be much much pickier. So they are

I'd never, ever, put myself through that - i know I'm not 'good' enough, I know my limits

...and if anyone says men are shallow, looks based etc and women look for personality, laugh in their face for me - so glad I'm out of the dating game, if I was single now I'd bloody well stay that way

[Moogal™]

Цитата допису Competizione:

Bang a coworker. Happily married years later now

I do not have a job

[Arvaos]

Цитата допису kaibarnard:

Yeh I've seen the charts, if you're not a top probably 10% in looks, and you're a man, lower your expectations, Top 30 - 11% you'll see some bites, less then that....slim pickings

Women are 'the prize' on these apps and they know it, and they can afford to be much much pickier. So they are

I'd never, ever, put myself through that - i know I'm not 'good' enough, I know my limits

...and if anyone says men are shallow, looks based etc and women look for personality, laugh in their face for me - so glad I'm out of the dating game, if I was single now I'd bloody well stay that way

I see plenty of women that are dating men that don't look like male models.

You must be in Barbie land.

[Tazor]

The thing about below 8 men is that the only option are below 8 women.

The thing about below 8 women is that MOST OF THEM would rather die alone than live happily with a below 8 man. They have been conditioned by social media into believing that men 8 and above are everywhere while they are ALL also 8 and above. Below 8 men are invisible to them. The cashier at Walmart, the construction worker on the other side of the road, the guy filling her gas tank, the mechanic who fixed her car, that random fat nerdy guy walking his dog.

They don't want such men. They MIGHT get in a relationship with such men. But they will never be content. They will always be looking for an 8 and above. Then dump the below 8 man first chance they get.

70% of divorces are started by women. Lesbian divorce rates are twice as high as gay divorce rates. Look up the sources yourself. I'm bored of looking them up every time I talk about this.

[Arvaos]

Цитата допису Tazor:

The thing about below 8 men is that the only option are below 8 women.

The thing about below 8 women is that MOST OF THEM would rather die alone than live happily with a below 8 man. They have been conditioned by social media into believing that men 8 and above are everywhere while they are ALL also 8 and above. Below 8 men are invisible to them. The cashier at Walmart, the construction worker on the other side of the road, the guy filling her gas tank, the mechanic who fixed her car, that random fat nerdy guy walking his dog.

They don't want such men. They MIGHT get in a relationship with such men. But they will never be content. They will always be looking for an 8 and above. Then dump the below 8 man first chance they get.

70% of divorces are started by women. Lesbian divorce rates are twice as high as gay divorce rates. Look up the sources yourself. I'm bored of looking them up every time I talk about this.

Definitely not true.

I've seen stunning women dating average looking men and the opposite is true as well.

[Tazor]

Цитата допису Arvaos:

Цитата допису Tazor:

The thing about below 8 men is that the only option are below 8 women.

The thing about below 8 women is that MOST OF THEM would rather die alone than live happily with a below 8 man. They have been conditioned by social media into believing that men 8 and above are everywhere while they are ALL also 8 and above. Below 8 men are invisible to them. The cashier at Walmart, the construction worker on the other side of the road, the guy filling her gas tank, the mechanic who fixed her car, that random fat nerdy guy walking his dog.

They don't want such men. They MIGHT get in a relationship with such men. But they will never be content. They will always be looking for an 8 and above. Then dump the below 8 man first chance they get.

70% of divorces are started by women. Lesbian divorce rates are twice as high as gay divorce rates. Look up the sources yourself. I'm bored of looking them up every time I talk about this.

Definitely not true.

I've seen stunning women dating average looking men and the opposite is true as well.

Looks are not the only thing that determine a man's worth in the eyes of a woman.

For short term relationships, looks are most important. You can also get away with not looking so good if you are very charismatic. I know someone who isn't that good looking but he is a silver tongued devil. He is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ someone new all the time.

Long term, it's money. Most women dream of sitting at home and not having to go to work while the man provides for them. Sounds like a good deal for me as a man as well. Not having to go to work while the woman does that for me. But it's just a fever dream, not reality.

[kaibarnard]

Цитата допису Arvaos:

Цитата допису kaibarnard:

Yeh I've seen the charts, if you're not a top probably 10% in looks, and you're a man, lower your expectations, Top 30 - 11% you'll see some bites, less then that....slim pickings

Women are 'the prize' on these apps and they know it, and they can afford to be much much pickier. So they are

I'd never, ever, put myself through that - i know I'm not 'good' enough, I know my limits

...and if anyone says men are shallow, looks based etc and women look for personality, laugh in their face for me - so glad I'm out of the dating game, if I was single now I'd bloody well stay that way

I see plenty of women that are dating men that don't look like male models.

You must be in Barbie land.

We're talking online dating - the cattle market - not IRL