Is it worth going for a 4090 now or is the 5090 probably out soon?

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I have a 4080 Super, I want to upgrade to the 4090 but it's rumoured the 5090 might come out at CES 2025 which is sometime in January I think? A predicted 70% improvement seems worth the wait.

Opinions?

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Tonepoet の投稿を引用：

The RTX 4090 only has about 25% extra performance than an RTX 4080 super, if even that, but it costs 80% more.

If you had that kind of money to throw away into a bonfire, you wouldn't even have to ask us, because you would have bought an RTX 4090 in the first place. I'd wait 'till the 7090 is released at least, much less the 5090.

But yeah, the 5090 is rumored to be released sometime between fall of this year or spring of the next. Graphics cards usually have a two year refresh cycle, so that is just about reasonable to assume, and you are basically at least three-quarters of the way there.

And even if the 5090 turns out to be a let-down, it will displace some of the demand for the 4090, lowering processor prices.

To be fair, that extra 20 fps makes a difference, like path tracing Cyberpunk can dip down to 70fps on the 4080? On the 4090 pretty sure it stays 90 and above? As you said, we're 3/4 near release so probably worth waiting to see what happens with the 5090, plus a 4080 isn't the worst to be stuck with lol.

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Frankie の投稿を引用：

Number chasing rarely is the answer to having the best and most effective PC. Put back your tongue and wallet until the chase option is proven.

Idk, numbers are the difference between smooth an a slideshow.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

There was supposed to be an Ada Lovelace Titan RTX 4090Ti but it looks as tho it is not happening anymore.

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The Incredible Magical Cupcake の投稿を引用：

There was supposed to be an Ada Lovelace Titan RTX 4090Ti but it looks as tho it is not happening anymore. :citizentears:

I don't see the point of that with the gap they left between the 4080 Super and the 4090 compared to other Super variants. Pretty sure the Super refresh gave like 1% or sometimes even -1% improvement over the original.

[Philco7a]

5090 not worth it. You can run a 4090 on 8x pcie lanes instead of 16x and barely lose any performance. Nothing yet even uses the full 16x lanes in the PCI socket of Gen4.

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Philco7a の投稿を引用：

5090 not worth it. You can run a 4090 on 8x pcie lanes instead of 16x and barely lose any performance. Nothing yet even uses the full 16x lanes in the PCI socket of Gen4.

Guess it depends on the price as well, a 70% uplift in performance for an entra $1000 making it $3000 is probably not worth it unless it's for a business.

About $1750 is the max for a GPU personally, otherwise it's going from ridiculous territory to ludicrous.

[Stormer]

I doubt you will notice any meaningful performance increase with that

[Uncle Sam]

󠀡󠀡 の投稿を引用：

I have a 4080 Super, I want to upgrade to the 4090 but it's rumoured the 5090 might come out at CES 2025 which is sometime in January I think? A predicted 70% improvement seems worth the wait.

Opinions?

Given the price, I say might as well wait out the scalpers because during the first few months it's going to be absurd prices. Even then unless you're using to it's fully capacity a lot of the time, not worth the pre-scalpers price imo.

[Michael]

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I have a 4080 Super, I want to upgrade to the 4090 but it's rumoured the 5090 might come out at CES 2025 which is sometime in January I think? A predicted 70% improvement seems worth the wait.

Opinions?

If you have waited this long and don't have a 4090, you should just wait for the 5090 to be released and get a good working water cooled 4090.You went with a 4080 super, do you even game at 4k? Do you need the vram the 4090 offers? if you can wait just skip the 4090 and get a 5090.

[Ice Robertson]

It's just my opinion you'll always be waiting for something.

Moores law stated the number of transistors on an integrated circuit would double every 2 years, Now they think we're moving faster than that.

Today RTX 4090, tomorrow RTX 5090, Day after RTX 6090.

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Ice Robertson の投稿を引用：

It's just my opinion you'll always be waiting for something.

Moores law stated the number of transistors on an integrated circuit would double every 2 years, Now they think we're moving faster than that.

Today RTX 4090, tomorrow RTX 5090, Day after RTX 6090.

That's if Nvidia even bothers to make new gaming cards when they can save the silicon space for more AI junk. One AI card can be sold for more than 20k when things are good. The mining "problem" will mean nothing to gamers soon.

[Shadow]

unfortunetly I am stuck with an aurora r10 with a 3080, there's no way to upgrade this machine

[R-S!N]

If you have the money, why not 'consume' just for the hell of it?

BUY BOTH!! AND build a 2nd or 3rd PC!!!!! HAVE MORE AND BE HAPPY!

Or save your soul & resources, and don't make money, don't spend money, don't sin, don't even speak... like a Buddhist Monk. LMAO!!!

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dont buy a 4090 or 5090. give the money to me instead so i can use more wisely

[Azza ☠]

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Azza ☠ の投稿を引用：

Depends what you are juicing...

A RTX 4090 is expensive, but a beast for juicing 4K HDR at 60 to 120Hz. You would want G-SYNC Monitor with a Nvidia graphics card. It makes use of the NVIDIA Deep Learning Super Sampling (DLSS) with certain games, specially if you are doing ray tracing to keep that FPS up with that high resolution and quality.

The RTX 5090 will be another major leap and even more expensive. Now you are juicing 4K HDR at 120Hz+ or possible multiple monitors or an 8K monitor at 60Hz.

If you aren't using 4K... then don't upgrade.

Save up for the monitor instead, such as:

ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulWv8Cfl-_4

Note: Any OLED monitor would require pixel cleaning (built-in option) every now and then to prevent burn in. The point is the graphics card can only dish out what your monitor can handle/display, and this is a seriously good monitor with future proof scaling of up to 240Hz + G-SYNC. Your 4080 Super could juice it making usage of DLSS, till you upgrade the graphic card later on to score the higher refresh too.

I got a 2560x1440p monitor. I can't see the difference between 1080p and 1440p. My 8K 244hz gaming TV doesn't look too different from 1440p personally so I don't really see the point.

A RTX 4080 Super is more than enough to juice 1440p resolution at ultra high settings in games.

You won't notice much, if any, difference. Even if you are trying to target a very high refresh rate, not a worthwhile change.

The difference between 1080p to 1440p resolution is 75% more pixels.

The difference between 1080p to 4K resolution is 4 times the pixels and requires a lot more juice to power.

I wouldn't recommend using that 8K TV for PC gaming, unless you want to treat it more like a gaming console. PC monitors have sharp pixels, where as a TV monitor is different and blurs pixels together. This makes TV look nice from a distance, but up close will strain your eyes and attempt blurry with reading very small text.

If you want 4K resolution you would also want the eye candy to make it worthwhile, such as HDR, etc.

There's a major different between the resolution, but if you don't notice it, don't bother. Keep with your 1440p resolution and RTX 4080 super! You will save a ton of cash. If you really want to upgrade, I would recommend getting a very high-end 4K monitor first, before upgrading your graphics card. Just avoid all low-end / mid-range 4K or TVs, you will be better off with the 1440p resolution instead.

Ask yourself what you need the graphics card for anyways? Any games lagging on very high to max settings? Are you trying to push for Ray Tracing, a high-end Virtual Reality or another demanding technology? A human eye doesn't see in FPS, that's a myth, but it will notice FPS flickering and drops/spikes. That's where a G-SYNC monitor can help a lot or just figuring out certain game settings which make major performance drops for your graphics card. Your current card should otherwise handle it just fine.