Vegans, why are you vegan?

[KennyAtom]

just wondering, why do people willingly go vegan?

[Siluva]

Eazy lähetti viestin:

isomorphic_projection lähetti viestin:

I prefer to eat cows and pigs, instead burning of rain forests for tofu.

You realize the rain forests are being burned for beef production, not tofu, right?

Both cattle food and soy boom cause deforestation and soil depletion. The "I'm morally better than you" don't work here.

[Volfogg]

Don't ask me. Dunno how they control that urge I have so often. To tear some food, animal in nature apart with teeth, something that's already dead. Pretty hyena-esque once I think about it.

[Goggles]

Siluva lähetti viestin:

Eazy lähetti viestin:

You realize the rain forests are being burned for beef production, not tofu, right?

Both cattle food and soy boom cause deforestation and soil depletion. The "I'm morally better than you" don't work here.

Well no ♥♥♥♥, basically anything you grow will deplete soil of nutrients. That's just agriculture 101. With that being said, they're not even in the same ballpark. I'm not even making a moral argument. I'm making one based on empirical evidence. If anything you are the one projecting a moral argument onto me. So kindly get stuffed

Restart the Cycle again lähetti viestin:

A large segment of people who identify as antinatalist also identify as vegan, and a large segment of people who identify as vegan also identify as antinatalist (or have antinatalist thoughts and feelings but aren’t aware of the term “antinatalist”).

https://www.stophavingkids.org/vegantinatalism#

This seems too much of a coincidence...

Are you prone to conspiratorial thinking because I think it's rearing it's head.

[Siluva]

Eazy lähetti viestin:

Well no ♥♥♥♥, basically anything you grow will deplete soil of nutrients. That's just agriculture 101. With that being said, they're not even in the same ballpark. I'm not even making a moral argument. I'm making one based on empirical evidence. If anything you are the one projecting a moral argument onto me. So kindly get stuffed :captainclown:

Wow what's the matter? Someone stole your gluten free bread?
Stay mad for no reason I guess.

[ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ]

saranacX lähetti viestin:

💕 𝓑𝓾𝓷 💕 lähetti viestin:

vegan for many reasons.

I don't believe intelligent and sentient animals should be mass bred, tortured from birth, imprisoned, drugged and force fed and then brutally murdered to feed selfish humans.

I don't believe cows should be raped and forcefully impregnated, then had their baby stolen from them, its throat slit while the mothers milk made for the baby is stolen as the mother cries for her baby to feed selfish humans.

I don't believe chickens should be forced to lay unnatural amount of eggs that depletes their body of all calcium so they can no longer stand and their bones snap under their own weight, and what of breeding new chickens? if they are male they are thrown into a grinder still awake while the females are subjected to a lifelong torture for their eggs.

I don't believe in baby sheep being taken from their mother and brutally murdered because selfish humans like the taste of baby sheep more than adult sheep. sick.

These are but some of the reasons I am a lifelong vegan.

But... where do you get your protein?

nuts and legumes ofcourse.

[Goggles]

Siluva lähetti viestin:

Eazy lähetti viestin:

Well no ♥♥♥♥, basically anything you grow will deplete soil of nutrients. That's just agriculture 101. With that being said, they're not even in the same ballpark. I'm not even making a moral argument. I'm making one based on empirical evidence. If anything you are the one projecting a moral argument onto me. So kindly get stuffed

Wow what's the matter? Someone stole your gluten free bread?
Stay mad for no reason I guess.

Good argument, I'll keep that in mind.

https://youtu.be/egBGU8rz5JY

Restart the Cycle again lähetti viestin:

Eazy lähetti viestin:

Are you prone to conspiratorial thinking because I think it's rearing it's head.

Indeed, a massive conspiracy that two threads appeared on these subjects. It's all connected, my man! They bugged my lunchbox because I know their filthy schemes...

You may want to look into getting a new lunch box

[saranacX]

Gluten free bread is terrible.

[KennyAtom]

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I don't believe intelligent and sentient animals should be mass bred, tortured from birth, imprisoned, drugged and force fed and then brutally murdered to feed selfish humans.

I don't think this makes the humans selfish, as most of them don't even know how the animals are killed. Basically the "If 1% knows, all of them know, so therefore, they all must be evil" fallacy. The rest of the point makes sense though.

💕 𝓑𝓾𝓷 💕 lähetti viestin:

I don't believe cows should be raped and forcefully impregnated, then had their baby stolen from them, its throat slit while the mothers milk made for the baby is stolen as the mother cries for her baby to feed selfish humans.

Again, the no true scotsman fallacy, but instead, the no true omnivore doesn't know that animals are treated badly in 5% of farms, so they are evil whether they like it or not. This also partially makes sense though, other than the selfish humans part.

💕 𝓑𝓾𝓷 💕 lähetti viestin:

I don't believe chickens should be forced to lay unnatural amount of eggs that depletes their body of all calcium so they can no longer stand and their bones snap under their own weight, and what of breeding new chickens? if they are male they are thrown into a grinder still awake while the females are subjected to a lifelong torture for their eggs.

You didn't call every human selfish just for enjoying meat this time, so I suppose it is progress. This makes sense though, morality fears as well.

💕 𝓑𝓾𝓷 💕 lähetti viestin:

I don't believe in baby sheep being taken from their mother and brutally murdered because selfish humans like the taste of baby sheep more than adult sheep. sick.

And now we are back to square one with the all humans are selfish for enjoying meat fallacy. while it is sad that babies are killed, the animals killed our babies before we became a society that kicked the feral animals out of our city. So basically it is revenge at this point.

💕 𝓑𝓾𝓷 💕 lähetti viestin:

These are but some of the reasons I am a lifelong vegan.

Other than the no true scotsman fallacy depicted in 3 out of 4 arguments, these do make sense. It's the reason why i buy from family farms, as even though it's more expensive, they do not mistreat animals.

[Dallas S]

Some people are vegan because of allergy issues or digestion issues. But many are vegan because of perceived social issues or environmental issues (which many are actually misled into believing that).
If you don't eat meat because you don't like killing or eating live things, that's totally understandable. If you're vegan because it's better for the environment, you have been misled.

There's nothing wrong with being vegan, if people want to do that I say power to them.

However before people go brow beating others for not being vegan or whatever, know that being vegan is a luxury that only those in first world countries can experience (aka the top 1% richest in the world, as if your household makes 30k a year American - including money you get from welfare or get back in taxes if you are low income - you ARE part of the 1%).

If you forced those in third world countries to become vegan, you would kill millions if not billions of people from starvation.

At the same time, if you're a non vegan, please don't be a ♥♥♥♥ and brow Beat or make fun of vegans. All you're doing is giving in to the division and taking the chance of a productive conversation off the table completely.

[permanent name]

A functioning sense of empathy and a lack of intellectual cowardice.

Eggs and milk are overproduced, lactose intolerant, find cracking and cleaning up after them annoying, but I do like milk bread.

And I believe there are potential forms of milk and egg production which don’t harm the animals and can at least bring them up to par with the average one-armed child laborer in a sweat shop of unmentionable nature.

But economic reform is a different subject.

[ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ]

KennyAtom lähetti viestin:

💕 𝓑𝓾𝓷 💕 lähetti viestin:

These are but some of the reasons I am a lifelong vegan.

Other than the no true scotsman fallacy depicted in 3 out of 4 arguments, these do make sense. It's the reason why i buy from family farms, as even though it's more expensive, they do not mistreat animals.

murdering them is not mistreating them?

[KennyAtom]

💕 𝓑𝓾𝓷 💕 lähetti viestin:

KennyAtom lähetti viestin:

Other than the no true scotsman fallacy depicted in 3 out of 4 arguments, these do make sense. It's the reason why i buy from family farms, as even though it's more expensive, they do not mistreat animals.

murdering them is not mistreating them?

Yes, also murder is when you kill domesticated pets and humans,
stock animals have no rights so it cannot be murder.

permanent name lähetti viestin:

A functioning sense of empathy and a lack of intellectual cowardice.

I don't exactly think empathy and intellectual things come into play here, since intellectual people eat meat as well.

[permanent name]

Nuh-uh, intellectuals eat books!

Well known fact!

[KennyAtom]

permanent name lähetti viestin:

Nuh-uh, intellectuals eat books!

Well known fact!

i thought they thrived off the nutritious taste of number 2 pencils and the swet sweet taste of sat tests, but i guess the more you know

[Siluva]

permanent name lähetti viestin:

Nuh-uh, intellectuals eat books!

Well known fact!

Are Peppa Pig books vegans?