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1. You should be investing 30% of your income in shares, stocks and bonds.
2. You need to invest in assets such as houses.
3. You should give up on life's little luxuries such as travelling or taking your kids on holiday.
4. You should be putting so much away per week for your children's education.
5. You should manage your financials better.
OK, I understand people should be managing their money better but my eyes are open and I see what's going on in our society. Jobs aren't paying enough to keep up with the costs of living. Rents are at a all time high, food prices are going through the roof, rising children isn't cheap.
Most people don't have the luxury of investing or saving money when your monthly income is £1400 and your rent is £800... their priority is feeding, clothing and keeping their kids warm.
Anyways:
I meant something different with it. Like in these times people also thought about all the welfare stuff, and holidays, and universal healthcare, etc. - because of industrialization.
But somehow people haven´t thought about expanding on that, when we´re way beyond that. It´s basically still the same, or very similar, systems - which don´t fit into the times. They might have been good like 180 years ago, and might have worked till the 50´s or 60´s - but then it changed - rather fast. And then the systems would have needed to be adjusted.
It´s not bad when machines do the work, but when only the investor benefits from it - it wouldn´t work for the societies. Even more so, when the workers here - or in any country - compete with all others all over the world, as there´s no limit for corporations, and transportation costs are lower than paying the additional wage in some countries, not speaking of environmental laws, and workers rights.
Well, if I learned anything from history it's that people push for change only when they're a) about to lose (almost) everything or b) when they already have. Not just history, saw it happen first-hand. But not to get off-topic (pun somewhat intended): there are many people who are actually content as long as they can live a quiet, uneventful and mundane life with their basic needs met and a little luxury here and there. The balance is pretty precarious almost always and even more so as the world becomes ever more interconnected. As long as that balance between the critical mass of somewhat satisfied people and their exploiters isn't shifting too much, change isn't going to happen any time soon. It's regrettable that the change usually happens at a terrible cost. The French Revolution 1789, the Weaver riots 1844, the October revolution 1917 and many other times... and the best results we're getting is restoring that precarious balance I've mentioned.
Yeah, some of those changes weren't exactly positive, and instigated, intentionally so, by the very same people that caused the problems in order to direct that "change" against people they viewed as their enemies. And this is the problem. Who is pointing at the rich and telling people that all their problems are their fault? Politicians becoming millionaires after taking office? Media on occasion? Professors with $200,000/year+ salaries?
And who are the people they point to and tell you to blame?. It always ends up being the enemies of these people, the enemies of the real problem. Just like the Bolsheviks, they're manipulating people to go after the people who have assets so that once those people are gone, they can take them for themselves.
It's just like when Joe Biden says "we need to tax these people 75%." The cold hard fact of that is that even if he did, you'd never see a dime from it, and immediately after you could expect to see a bit fat bill tear through congress with pay raises and new benefits for everyone that will have unanimous bipartisan support.
There's always those who'll try and take advantage of ANY kind of situation. Maximilian Robespierre quickly became worse than the Bourbons he overthrew (his time isn't called "Reign of terror" for nothing). The ringleaders of the weaver riots escaped with results ranging from unpunished to outright rich. And the Bolsheviks... well, daylight robbery being done "in the name of the people" while robbing those same people you claim the good is for ain't going to work. But the problem of exploitation is not bound to a political system. It existed since people settled down and formed the first stationary communities.
I always keep saying: "The easiest people to govern are happy or at least partially happy people." I actually don't mind exploitation as long as I don't feel exploited. I'm one of those who are perfectly content with basic needs met and a little luxury here and there. Let the Musks and the Rockefellers keep their billions as long as there's enough for us with a smaller appetite and lower ambitions. Taxing them won't teach them to treat their workers better, but I'll admit to having no idea what WOULD teach them except another 1844. We really gotta think of something else though, can't just trash the factories and estates every once in a while. The vicious circle has to end.
The problem is that people work in small teams, and have their own small circles nowadays, so You wouldn´t get mass movements that easily. For that You need people, who have the same, or similar, life conditions and problems. It´s way easier to get some movement started, when You work with 999 other people in the same construction hall - for the same money. Then You can get 10´s of thousands of people rather fast, even more so, when there´s another hall next to it, with a similar amount of people. But these times are gone. So one has to count on those who are the biggest group which similar income in any country: the unemployed. But this has problems, which go beyond the topic.
Ironically it´s usually that way because of short term gains in form of money for some individuals. But if one puts the money before the well being of the people - i don´t think it ever went well in history either. Countries compare their economies - either in total, or per citizen - instead of comparing how they treat their weakest members in the society. The latter is the indicator if some society is really wealthy - or to honor the thread: if they´re morally developed. Oddly enough: the richest country in the world looks rather poor in that regard.
I´m sure that´s the majority of people. And even most of those who dream about winning in the lottery, or getting rich by other means, usually do this, because of the financial security - as there wouldn´t be much pressure about work any more, and they wouldn´t need to worry about the future financially...
1) AI is likely going to be misused at first. Its application is going to eliminate many work positions before society makes place for the ones who'll end up losing it to the AI. Companies worldwide will be all too happy to sack people to cut costs, but nobody is stopping for even a second to think what'll happen to them once they're out the door.
2) I agree with that. People never think about how the weakest and most vulnerable members of their society are being treated until or unless they fall into that bracket. But by then it's too late. Once in the gutter, it's VERY hard to get out and impossible to be heard.
3) Work has actually become very embedded into our way of life. I have 10 weeks with very little to do as teacher, as the kids are on holiday (the Summer holiday is as long as it is due to agonizing heat between July and September). The overabundance of free time eventually starts driving me nuts. And a friend of mine recently spent 10 weeks looking for a new job. Said to me: "I was going insane with boredom without work". Financial security isn't the only thing... people need structure and purpose in life.
People used to do all kinds of thing since they had money to spare.
People who rely on only thinking about money have a hard time dealing with freedom.
Unless gaming and reading don't count as hobbies, I have them. But when all time is spare time, it doesn't feel gratifying. I may be a fruitcake in some people's eyes, but a gaming session in the afternoon hours or weekend after work feels better than one where I'm mucking around with pastime activities day in, day out.
Get a motorcycle and see the country. By having so much time off you have so many possibilities many could only dream of. Go to Europe and lease a car for a month and go camping and see the sights in different countries.
Expand your world. See an opera on the Giza plateau.
Go to Batu Caves during Thaipusam festival in Malaysia
A teacher is really fortunate to have time like that!
If you can't find things now when you are healthy you will just end up working yourself until you die just from lack of imagination.
That is just sad.
My imagination works a bit different. I'm not the outdoors kind of person. I wish I could write something, but I can't get a good falling plot going. All other four steps are no problem. But we're getting off-topic.
I just said it´s a difference if You go to work, because You want to - compared to You go to work, because You have to. And i´d go out a bit on a limb here and claim that the majority of people goes mainly to work, because they have to. Which is why some play the lottery and or dream about becoming rich - as they don´t have the spare money to get there otherwise in a reasonable amount of time. And i did not say that they would stop working when they actually would win, but then it´s a choice - so they go to work because they want to - which takes away all of the pressure, which comes with it, when it´s about they have to go to work. Even if it´s still about the same job - so You probably would be in a better mood, even if You do the same job as before with the same hours.
And yes - most people who work all day, and imagine to have a lot of free time is actually nice, and then they have like 3 months vacations, are bored towards the end. And then You go back to work, and after 2 days You could go on vacations again, as it feels like You never had vacations. But all that is highly dependent on the people, and their jobs. Like GunsforBucks said: it´s way easier to spend free time, if You could fill it with something, but many things cost money - except You want to have sex with Your wife all day long for 3 months straight - but that probably gets old (no pun intended ofc) after some years as well...