So why are foreigners in Finnland stripped off their rights ?

[SvarogX]

So why are foreigners in Finnland stripped off their rights ?

Basically, most Finnish people have guns and most men serve in the military until 40+ or older as reserves.

When Russia invades, they all can organise themselves, defend their homes and survive.

If you are a foreigner, you can't have a gun nor are you allowed to join any type of home defense / military unit to train and be prepared.

I think this is like taking away the rights off a human, right for self-defence and right for not being harmed.

I think Finnland should have more trust in migrants who live there, especially if they are from culturally similar countries such as Denmark, Germany, Sweden and so on.

They constantly talk about how Russia is threatening them and an invasion is a huge risk, yet they only arm and train some choosen people.
In my eyes, everyone who lives in Finnland, pays his rent or bought a property, should have the right to carry a gun and get military training, man I would even pay to get some military training here, fine by me.

But being isolated and discriminated isn't all that cool if you have a family to protect.

[Dutchgamer1982]

if you want to specificly test for regional genes (which is much harder for nations excists much later than groups..)
harder to define too for well whats an english? is it a briton? an anglo-saxon? an norman?

so instead we tested for the tribal groups once settles...

(by taking their remains and test and use that as a base)
can only do large groups.. so testing for something like batavians is not possible due too small a sample sice.. even though dutch likely decend from tham)

well than my genome :

frisians : 70.2%
saxon : 27.6%
norse : 1.2%
frankish : 0,5%
anglic : 0.2%
danish : 0.1%
sami : 0.1%
other : 0.1%

mostly nothing surpriosing here with the above numbers.. with frisians having strong contact with norse and danish.. some inmixture is to be expected.,. anglians are strongly related to frisians.. and used us as a stop on the way there so no surprise there..
I was surprised by the low percentage of frankish blood... given how often france has occupied our nation and that frisia magna was conquered by franks.. and a lot of my family having migrated to brabant after the destruction of dorestad.. and lived there for hundreds hundreds of year in the same village.. and brabant was often occupied by friensh.. ou'd expect them to have mixed in with locals with more frankish genes..
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saxon genes is to be expected.. as I also decend from german nobility.. I could call myself a freiherr if I wanted... (going back to the early 13th century)

[Dutchgamer1982]

(this was part of a science paper.. that I was tested... basicly how the mogration waves in the past have formed the genes of those living in europe today)
so they did not really test for any ancestors more recent than 500 years ago..

but yeah as nations did excist back than they did went 1 step further....
**they opened graves of people died in cuirrent nations borders 500 years ago
**they made sure to do so over a large area of such nation to level out regional differences
**they tested them and so formed basicly the mixture each nation should have...

it does not give as preciece a national herritige but more roughly a regional herritage
here is my outcome :

**the below regions were made geografical by fysical boundries. rivers, mounters.. coasts

western european : 100%

britisch islanands : 0%
irish island : 0%
scandinavia upper (artic line) : 0%
scandivavia lower : 0.3%
lowlands (which they defined as inside the rivers) so not all of belgium but a chunk of germany too : 97.7%
germany : 3.0% (again geograficly defined)
france (again geografic so parts of belgium and north iraly included) : 0%
-Central european : 0%
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(the other regions would fall under central or middle europe so

so well pretty much YUP I am as pure dutch as you can get.. most dutch have like 6-12% french inmixing.. and even a 1-2% iberian inmixing I don't have.

[Monnsteri]

@Dutchgamer1982

I can tell you for a fact that absolutely no-one on this forum read through that absolute drivel.

[Mensis]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Monnsteri:

@Dutchgamer1982

I can tell for a fact that absolutely no-one on this forum read through that absolute drivel.

He does this every opportunity he has. He is absolutely obsessed with genetics, especially his own.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Monnsteri:

@Dutchgamer1982

I can tell for a fact that absolutely no-one on this forum read through that absolute drivel.

thats their loss..
suffice to say when I know I am more dutch than even most dutch.. I know what i talk about.
this is my land.., it has belonged to my ancestors for over 30000 years...
and I not want no migrants taking it.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Mensis:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Monnsteri:

@Dutchgamer1982

I can tell for a fact that absolutely no-one on this forum read through that absolute drivel.

He does this every opportunity he has. He is absolutely obsessed with genetics, especially his own.

I like genetics, yes, nothing wrong with that.

[Mensis]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dutchgamer1982:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Mensis:

He does this every opportunity he has. He is absolutely obsessed with genetics, especially his own.

I like genetics, yes, nothing wrong with that.

On its own there is nothing wrong with that although with eugenicist ideals it does get a little weird. Cough.

[Mensis]

You say you don't support eugenics even though you describe views which are quite literally eugenics. Such as forced sterilisation of people who you think are too "diluted" to fit into a specific racial category.

That, is in fact, eugenics.

[Caldari Ghost]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Monnsteri:

@Dutchgamer1982

I can tell you for a fact that absolutely no-one on this forum read through that absolute drivel.

I read it

Oprindeligt skrevet af Mensis:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Monnsteri:

@Dutchgamer1982

I can tell for a fact that absolutely no-one on this forum read through that absolute drivel.

He does this every opportunity he has. He is absolutely obsessed with genetics, especially his own.

He talks like this about every subject, not just genetics.

[SvarogX]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Monnsteri:

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All suomalaiset I have ever met, called their country SUOMI not Finland or Finnland.

Most people I have met have guns or at least have easy access to it. What kind of liberal enslave do you live in? Probably Helsinki ?

Yeah. And in english (which is what we're typing here) it's Finland. Move to USA if you want a gun so much. Most people here do not have guns cos they aren't given to everyone who wants one.

I assume you are a Finnish liberal, hence you are not showing your country on your Steam profile and get overly obsessed over me writing Finnland with two N instead of one N. Which in my eyes is pretty ridiculous and irrelevant in this context.

I don't want to move to the U.S. lol and you are not in the position to tell me where to move anyway.

Also for a Finn you seem pretty badly informed about your own country, YES while you are right that not MOST people in FiNNland possess a gun, it is factual that a large quantity of the Finnish people possess a gun and pretty much every Finn has at least access to it !

Here you go Mr. Peaceful :"

In Finland, it is estimated that there are around 32 firearms per 100 residents. This places Finland among the countries with the highest rates of gun ownership globally. Approximately 20% of Finnish households possess at least one firearm, reflecting a significant level of civilian gun ownership in the country

"

Source: OSF

[SvarogX]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Caldari Ghost:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Monnsteri:

@Dutchgamer1982

I can tell you for a fact that absolutely no-one on this forum read through that absolute drivel.

I read it

Oprindeligt skrevet af Mensis:

He does this every opportunity he has. He is absolutely obsessed with genetics, especially his own.

He talks like this about every subject, not just genetics.

How delusinal are you?

I never did bring genetics into this, Dutchgamer got all obsessed over genetics. Maybe read before you start trolling.

[☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n]

You are a "guest" within Finlands borders, and should respect their way of doing things. If you don't like their laws\rules, you can always find a country that's more in line with your way of thinking.

[Stingray_tm]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Caldari Ghost:

He talks like this about every subject, not just genetics.

I mean, he describes himself as a nationalist, a racist (but one of the "good ones", who don't want to commit genocide...) and has proudly claimed, that he has beaten up migrants (which he claims was in self-defence, of course). What else does there need to be said.

[SvarogX]

Oprindeligt skrevet af ☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n:

You are a "guest" within Finlands borders, and should respect their way of doing things. If you don't like their laws\rules, you can always find a country that's more in line with your way of thinking.

I abide by their laws, but last time I checked Finland is a democracy and people are allowed to disagree and criticise things.

[Monnsteri]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Hitmain:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Monnsteri:

Yeah. And in english (which is what we're typing here) it's Finland. Move to USA if you want a gun so much. Most people here do not have guns cos they aren't given to everyone who wants one.

I assume you are a Finnish liberal, hence you are not showing your country on your Steam profile and get overly obsessed over me writing Finnland with two N instead of one N. Which in my eyes is pretty ridiculous and irrelevant in this context.

I don't want to move to the U.S. lol and you are not in the position to tell me where to move anyway.

Also for a Finn you seem pretty badly informed about your own country, YES while you are right that not MOST people in FiNNland possess a gun, it is factual that a large quantity of the Finnish people possess a gun and pretty much every Finn has at least access to it !

Here you go Mr. Peaceful :"

In Finland, it is estimated that there are around 32 firearms per 100 residents. This places Finland among the countries with the highest rates of gun ownership globally. Approximately 20% of Finnish households possess at least one firearm, reflecting a significant level of civilian gun ownership in the country

"

Source: OSF

You assume wrong. I'm conservative, but that does not automatically mean I want you to have a gun. Also I show my country on my Steam profile and what the hell does me correcting you have to do with being a liberal?

You ain't getting a gun, deal with it or move someplace else.

There's 460,000 people with a gun license in Finland, including cops. That's not most people. Try harder.

Source: ministry of the interior.