What's your opinion on globalism?

[Sex Alarm]

What's your opinion on globalism?

[oldirty`]

Globalism brought me chocolat, coffee, spices, olive oil, computers, internet, cars, energy, math, medicin.
Pretty much everything you see in your everyday life.

[steven1mac]

As long as you realize that once the world trade with no restrictions will result in everyone eventually living in a semi-3rd world lifestyle. Why would any producer want to set up shop in an expensive country where they have to pay more money on the workforce, when they can build cheap factories in a cheaper place.

Some countries have certain barriers due to climate, lack of way to move goods, or other physical or cultural barriers, so they will always lag behind other countries, but end the end the only once that would benefit are those who own the means of production. Technology has made it easy to transfer industry around. A power plant can be built in any country, no matter how bad the literacy is, and within a few years it will be producing energy, as long as a small core of key workers are willing to train the locals.

[Rio]

Globalism took our factories and factory jobs. And sent them to china. And now china is a stronger country than the usa.

[oldirty`]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ⛧:

Globalism took our factories and factory jobs. And sent them to china. And now china is a stronger country than the usa.

Capitalism on steroids probably had the bigger impact on this.

[DoomsDay]

this thread is actually pretty secured considering its topic. I would doubt anyone with the ambition to have global domination to come in this post, and claim sovereignty at the whole earth and all the people.

its a funny thought, how come these political leaders no longer try to seize land? by sacrificing life of young soldiers.
because all the people are already pacified into the cheap labour market, no need to give them guns to fight for anything other than capitalism mind men. and by telling them to fight capitalism men, they will have to start with each other.

[secuda]

We are allready there with the internet. Wish we could strive for a common goal withou bloodshed.

[miakisfan]

I think there is a better chance of seeing God than there is seeing everyone in the world getting together and singing Kumbaya.

Globalists are like Liberals in that they believe this is the best way to live but ignore the fact that it is never going to work in a real setting.

Besides, when it comes to humanity there are always those who think *someone needs to be in charge* and that's where Globalists fail big time. In order for globalism to exist everyone has to be equal and there are some humans who will never think that way.

It is a great ideal in general but it will simply never work. Humanity will always get in its own way.

[livinggg]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von miakisfan:

I think there is a better chance of seeing God than there is seeing everyone in the world getting together and singing Kumbaya.

Globalism doesn't mean every person in the world getting along.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von miakisfan:

Globalists are like Liberals in that they believe this is the best way to live but ignore the fact that it is never going to work in a real setting.

You know how every single liberal thinks? I doubt that. Are you even sure you know what liberal means? Do you describe people who aren't liberal as liberal to make it easier to have an opinion on them?

Ursprünglich geschrieben von miakisfan:

Besides, when it comes to humanity there are always those who think *someone needs to be in charge* and that's where Globalists fail big time. In order for globalism to exist everyone has to be equal and there are some humans who will never think that way.

It is a great ideal in general but it will simply never work. Humanity will always get in its own way.

Someone will always be in charge because there will always be people who do nothing. That isn't a bad thing, we just want to make sure the right people are in charge. Globalism already exists.

[Dutchgamer1982]

I oppose it.

I would be typing 1000 pages to fully detail what globalism exactly is, does in it's current form and how it arose... but I will just list a few spearpoints of it's horrible effects

Globalism, destroys cultures (including my culture) and hollows them out.
Globalism, destroys languages (and as each language is a way to look at the world, it destroys in a way part of the human spirit)
Globalism, destroys peoples will to live/makes them depressed & suicidal, as evident in birthrates
Globalism, pushes inequality to unheared of before extremes
Globalism, destroys the planet
Globalism, oppresses people under a technocracy -> it erodes the power of goverments, and transfers it to an ever smaller number of investment firms and big corporations.
Globalism, has removed the social contract that is VITAL to have trade work, basicly it has removed accountability, the desire to not screw over.

The one "good" thing Globalism is doing.. is it reduces the chance of war and violence
as evident in that violence is decreasing globally both in the percentage of people on the planet involved in wars each year.. and in the percentage of people the victem of mayor crimes.

war is bad for buisnuiss after all. and if we all live under one global big dystopian corporation.. to busy surviving to wage war.
-> basicly if you break peoples spirit to resis and have them turned truelly to cogs in the machine.. they won't wage war.

But I see this as a bad thing.. if the price for freedom is that we sometimes need to spill blood.. we need to pay that price.. not run away for it.

and besides there IS a viable alternative model that also reduces violence but WITHOUT all the above crappy effects : Peacefull segregation.

in it's most basic form it is.. we build a big fense between you and me and leave eachother the heck alone..
we don't hate eachother.. we just mutually agree to not impose on eachother and not interact with eachothe.
every group of people. it's own plot of land.. we don't intereact with eacother.. we live segregated.
so that both your culture and mine stays preserved
economicly it also means we need to be much more self-reliant.

[LeviathanWon]

I kinda like localisms.

It's hard to convince people to have labor rights and community policing without rising the costs or increasing the population.

So you become the cold alienation of the global capitalist machine. of globalization one way or another.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von LeviathanWon:

I kinda like localisms.

It's hard to convince people to have labor rights and community policing without rising the costs or increasing the population.

So you become the cold alienation of the global capitalist machine. of globalization one way or another.

the opposite is true...
when many died out of the black plague it finally made labour scarse enough in europe that the power of nobility could be broken.. guilds arose.. and that led us to finally come to a more equal distribution of wealth and for a while freedoms for the average person were never higher than than..

but when the corporation was invented... freedoms started to be destroyed and riches plundered on an insane scale.. sure at first corporations were national institutes stealing the wealth from other nations so it was only the slaves and tribals who saw their prosperity and freedoms stolen.. but with MODERN international corporations even goverments are utterly powerless..

if one nation installs labour laws and fair customer laws.. the corporation just moves it's production to another nation.. one cannot form an union against exploitation on that scale..

and goverments keep lower the bar.. lower taxes.. lower labourlaws.. to lure the multinations hq to them.
come to me than you only have to pay 100 million tax
come to me in my nation you only have to pay 90 million
no to me.. only 80 million..

it is a race to the bottom where nations act like the labourers breaking the strike..
you would need a global goverment.. to break the corporations power this time..
or at least some kind of global eu.. with every nation in the world in it..(and that has far far more power to overrule the independent ruling in individual states than the current UN has)
reducing nations to essentially just states in a federation.
but that would cost EVERYBODY their culture, and their freedom.. and all those other things...

it would mean.. the anticrist.. it would mean brave new world/1984 came true.
it would cost every language, every culture, every bit of the human soul.. just to break the corporations with such a supranational behemoth..

[Knee]

My opinion on globalism isn’t information that is freely available unless you will make it worthwhile to disclose, mr dataminer

[Teasel]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von MistyMountainHop:

You vil eat ze bugs.
You vil live in ze pod.
You vil own not'ing und be happy.

I'd expect something like that from an idiot mentored for five decades by an excommunicated Sabbatean Frankist. Oh wait... he was.

[trousers]

Depends what you mean. Do you mean the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ right-wing dogwhistle; or the interconnectivity and patterns underpinning our modern world; or do you actually mean globalization which is what happens when globalism goes up (or down) and trends towards exploiting those links through the neoliberal economic consensus etc etc.

Because people using dumbass slurs that scream "I'm an idiot, ignore me" irritate me about as much as people misusing language. I went to COLLEGE to learn how to language!11 >:(

Unfortunately, it did not teach me how to make sensible decisions, so BRB, off to Las Vegas to gamble my life savings away.

[nohuman]

First there's cavorting, then comes the fraternising, and finally...... mingling.

No wonder they are so mad.