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HeroicHeathen 2024 年 7 月 7 日 上午 2:15
Was anyone here disappointed and shocked about people being NPCs?
Was anyone here disappointed and shocked about people being NPCs?

For example when the whole Covid thing started and/or the Ukraine war ?
I was kind of shocked during covid and also shocked when Ukraine happened (although a bit less as covid lowered my expectations), because I did not expect the broad masses to be this gullable about each topic and I did not expect them to be sheeping this hard for what the government says.

But what was truly scary was how so many people and businesses started to become hostile and even physically violent towards others who did not follow their narrative, this happened during covid and still happens today about Ukraine.

Now the biggest shock for me was that people obviously did not learn from the whole covid thing. Even the people that admitted reacting too excessive during covid times, now follow the whole Ukraine narrative.

It feels like people are not capable of learning at all and most don't seem to have a memory either.

Anyone else who is a critical independent thinker like me and who kind of got disappointed by this ? I see the society I live in with completely different eyes now and have to admit that I have a lot less respect for people and in generally feel like I am intelectually above them.
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HeroicHeathen 2024 年 7 月 7 日 上午 2:50 
引用自 Murderbrat
引用自 Teiwaz

No, I mena people in actual real life not some meltdowns online.
ive never seen that and i go outside every day pretty much

You must live in a pretty remote place then, here in Germany I see LGBTQ flags on almost every supermarket throughout the whole year, people having their cars and windows decorated with Ukraine flags and numerous events where people gather to " support Ukraine " against " bad Russia ".
Rebel the Murderbrat 2024 年 7 月 7 日 上午 2:54 
yeah i live realy far away from russia so i guess thats why
Coinkydink 2024 年 7 月 7 日 上午 2:54 
But I am going as far as saying that people are willing to act pretty hostile and " engaged " in something they know nothing about really.

This is called fanaticism. These folks have been turned into fanatics by constant fear-mongering.
They are extremely afraid and insecure and are lashing out at targets they have been given.
replika 2024 年 7 月 7 日 上午 2:56 
引用自 Teiwaz
引用自 Murderbrat
ive never seen that and i go outside every day pretty much

You must live in a pretty remote place then, here in Germany I see LGBTQ flags on almost every supermarket throughout the whole year, people having their cars and windows decorated with Ukraine flags and numerous events where people gather to " support Ukraine " against " bad Russia ".
I’ve never seen that too.
HeroicHeathen 2024 年 7 月 7 日 上午 2:57 
引用自 mutilatedvermin
引用自 Teiwaz

You must live in a pretty remote place then, here in Germany I see LGBTQ flags on almost every supermarket throughout the whole year, people having their cars and windows decorated with Ukraine flags and numerous events where people gather to " support Ukraine " against " bad Russia ".
I’ve never seen that too.

You also don't live in Germany.
Rio 2024 年 7 月 7 日 上午 2:57 
I lived through bush jr telling all of us that there were weapons of mass destruction. When we are all taught to fear Muslims. And I saw people accept things like the patriot act, without question. And if you questioned things, you were a bad person.

And he never caught Bin laiden, but Bush jr still went "Mission accomplished".

And on the tv we could see million dollar tomahawk missiles be fired to blow up 10 dollar tents.

And the news, even cartoons like south park made muslims out to be bad guys. And they made Saddam Satan's boyfriend.

And everything was one sided and you never really heard the other side. And if you asked, why do they wanna blow us up, you were told so they'd get into heaven with 99 wives waiting for them. And that they'd even makes children, explosive or armed.


You had to be quiet. And even with family, you had to be quiet.

You were reminded all the time

Covid was the same kind of censorship, it was another kind of patriot act with locking everyone inside. It was the same, your not suppose to question things, do what we say or else. It was the same media lying about everything. It was the same, everyone is scared.

And Ukraine feels the same way to me. Where putin is a monster by default, ARREST TUCKER CARLSON FOR THE GRAND CRIME OFF hearing what he has to say... How dare we hear his side of the story.

And gaza felt the same way to me, starting out with outlandish claims. That like always paint one side as angels from heaven and the other as demons of hell.
Coinkydink 2024 年 7 月 7 日 上午 2:59 
That's pretty interesting.

Here we have an easy example- people will spend time to click around to try to dig up "evidence" on somebody who said something they find objectionable.

Instead of presenting counter-evidence and arguing the point, they instead try to attack the other person by implying they are liars.
HeroicHeathen 2024 年 7 月 7 日 上午 3:26 
引用自
I lived through bush jr telling all of us that there were weapons of mass destruction. When we are all taught to fear Muslims. And I saw people accept things like the patriot act, without question. And if you questioned things, you were a bad person.

And he never caught Bin laiden, but Bush jr still went "Mission accomplished".

And on the tv we could see million dollar tomahawk missiles be fired to blow up 10 dollar tents.

And the news, even cartoons like south park made muslims out to be bad guys. And they made Saddam Satan's boyfriend.

And everything was one sided and you never really heard the other side. And if you asked, why do they wanna blow us up, you were told so they'd get into heaven with 99 wives waiting for them. And that they'd even makes children, explosive or armed.


You had to be quiet. And even with family, you had to be quiet.

You were reminded all the time

Covid was the same kind of censorship, it was another kind of patriot act with locking everyone inside. It was the same, your not suppose to question things, do what we say or else. It was the same media lying about everything. It was the same, everyone is scared.

And Ukraine feels the same way to me. Where putin is a monster by default, ARREST TUCKER CARLSON FOR THE GRAND CRIME OFF hearing what he has to say... How dare we hear his side of the story.

And gaza felt the same way to me, starting out with outlandish claims. That like always paint one side as angels from heaven and the other as demons of hell.

Which is where my perspective as a German comes in.

Back when Bush was in power and did the whole thing on Iraq and Afg. Here in Germany we could openly criticise this, no problem ! We were actually allowed to openly criticise Bush, imagine!

Nowadays this is completely different though, we can't criticise anything American or Western without getting into serious trouble.

This is why I said I was shocked how sheepish people have become. While back in the 90s we could openly share our opinions over here, discuss stuff and even media was a lot more independent about numerous topics, nowadays there is only ONE opinion and ONE right.
peppermint hollows 2024 年 7 月 7 日 上午 3:26 
引用自 nagu_al
That's pretty interesting.

Here we have an easy example- people will spend time to click around to try to dig up "evidence" on somebody who said something they find objectionable.

Instead of presenting counter-evidence and arguing the point, they instead try to attack the other person by implying they are liars.

Well, I never said that I found what the OP said objectionable. But is pretty interesting that their opinion about Ukraine and Russia doesn't seem to be consistent and their claim that they didn't "follow" the Ukraine narrative is blatantly false. After all, they were, in their own words, "not comfortable portraying the Russian military killing Ukrainian soldiers on their screen" and did not "wish for their payment to contribute to Russia's coffers through taxes."
Rio 2024 年 7 月 7 日 上午 3:28 
I don't understand people who don't think we should legally be allowed to hear another person's perspective. Like people that wanted tuker carlson, arrested for interviewing Putin. Or the interview to never be aired. As americans we go on an on about free speech, but when its the leader of a country our government is fighting with, nope.

When you don't want us to hear one side of the story, thats a huge red flag. That screams "I've got something to hide or I'm lying about something".


And just at this point, I know so many of the manipulations that the government uses. "Crimes of atrocities", my enemy is evil therefor can do nothing but evil, if you aren't against him you are a supporter, if we don't stop them now they will take over everything aka domino theory, etc.

When I was in high school I would write books. And one of those books was a book of qoutes, and one of the first qoutes which I saw all the time was

"Naturally, the common people don't want war; But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” ― Hermann Goering, Germany Reborn
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Rio 2024 年 7 月 7 日 上午 3:48 
"Back when Bush was in power and did the whole thing on Iraq and Afg. Here in Germany we could openly criticise this, no problem ! We were actually allowed to openly criticise Bush, imagine!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhmdEq3JhoY

We could criticize bush Jr himself back then, For his looks, and way he talked. Making fun of presidents was very much a thing. Even today we can joke Trump or Biden.

You could make fun of bush till the sun came down. That was okay. Some people might not like that back then, but you could still do it. And the tv didn't think that highly of bush at times either.

The war, the towers, all that stuff was very serious. But if you wanted to call the president a clown, people might agree with you.
最后由 Rio 编辑于; 2024 年 7 月 7 日 上午 3:51
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