Ukraine is losing the war.

[HeroicHeathen]

Ukraine is losing the war and all these western propagandists were wrong.

Kind of hilarious.



https://www.dw.com/en/conflict-zone-is-ukraine-losing-its-war-against-russia/video-67713331

https://theconversation.com/ukraine-is-losing-the-war-and-the-west-faces-a-stark-choice-help-now-or-face-a-resurgent-and-aggressive-russia-204508

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-counteroffensive-russian-fortifications-1.6827945

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/06/russia-ukraine-war-us-lets-ukraine-lose.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jul/01/ukraine-tough-battles-russian-forces-dig-in

[keon]

Ursprungligen skrivet av ПЕPНЯШ:

arhivach - is a live pork mobilization access free.
video icnluden.

асфальт из украины интересует?

[astroskiffle]

I predict the war will end in a negotiated agreement that allows both parties to claim a semblance of victory, despite neither side achieving an outright military triumph. This will involve concessions from both sides, enabling each to assert that their interests have been protected and objectives met. Trillions of dollars and thousands of lives lost for nothing. And without doubt the social media bots will be working double time to justify the tremendous human and economic cost of it all to us the gullible public.

[Utophiλn]

Ursprungligen skrivet av astroskiffle:

I predict the war will end in a negotiated agreement that allows both parties to claim a semblance of victory, despite neither side achieving an outright military triumph. This will involve concessions from both sides, enabling each to assert that their interests have been protected and objectives met. Trillions of dollars and thousands of lives lost for nothing. And without doubt the social media bots will be working double time to justify the tremendous human and economic cost of it all to us the gullible public.

russia will not stop until all Ukraine is occupied. The so called "peace" is merely a time for russian soldaten to regroup and strike a gain in a few years.

[Ulfrinn]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Utophiλn:

Ursprungligen skrivet av astroskiffle:

I predict the war will end in a negotiated agreement that allows both parties to claim a semblance of victory, despite neither side achieving an outright military triumph. This will involve concessions from both sides, enabling each to assert that their interests have been protected and objectives met. Trillions of dollars and thousands of lives lost for nothing. And without doubt the social media bots will be working double time to justify the tremendous human and economic cost of it all to us the gullible public.

russia will not stop until all Ukraine is occupied. The so called "peace" is merely a time for russian soldaten to regroup and strike a gain in a few years.

Not if they used that opportunity to join NATO or the EU during that time, something they cannot do while the war is ongoing.

[Faiyez]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Scally:

That's because members of NATO states and 99% of the UN know that NATO is a peaceful, defensive organisation.

Laughs in person from Belgrade in the late nineties.

[xBCxRangers]

Well as far as NATO, we in the states need to get out of that. It obviously has not worked, has made the world a more dangerous place, and here in the states, we have so much more issues we should be spending money on.

I sincerely feel bad for our European friends who have depended on us, but, we're broke, and have people in the many thousands living in tents, and cannot even afford homes.

In addition, the voting habits, or tendencies i'm seeing in Europe, may not align with those in their governments.

Which is to say, there are likely more means of they spending money, on issues that affect them as well, as compared to others.

Do i think Trump will ge us out of NATO? No. He's a bloviator. Well he end support in Ukraine? Likely.

[Stingray_tm]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Groogo:

I post enough that anyone interested in the subject can find the information for themselves with a quick Google and I ignore the guys that just want to argue. I do not waste my time posting links for people with nothing better to do then to argue about links. If they truly want to know they will be able to find what they are looking for.

You already copy/pasted stuff from the site. It would take you 2 seconds to copy/paste the URL too. But you don't. On purpose. Because you know, that most people will not actively try to find an article, that you willingly obfuscated. Because you want to distort what actually is in that article.

You don't "argue about links", because I am right here and you can't defend yourself.

[Xero_Daxter]

War? I thought it was a “Military Operation”?

[ПЕPНЯШ]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Xero_Daxter:

War? I thought it was a “Military Operation”?

nato call it -
a movie
5 Days of War

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Xero_Daxter:

War? I thought it was a “Military Operation”?

"Specisl Military Operation".

[Morkonan]

Found this:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/07/13/russia-loses-astronomical-70000-troops-two-months-ukraine/

Russia loses ‘astronomical’ 70,000 troops in 60 days

Uptick reflects opening of new Kharkiv front, with casualty rate of more than 1,000 a day expected over next two months, says MoD


Russia has lost more than 70,000 troops in the past two months, British military intelligence said on Friday.

The update by the Ministry of Defence added that the heavy losses would likely continue as Russia looked to make gains across the front lines in Ukraine.

“The average daily Russian casualties (killed and wounded) in Ukraine, throughout May and June 2024, increased to conflict highs of 1,262 and 1,163 respectively,” the MoD wrote.

“In total, Russia likely lost (killed and wounded) in excess of 70,000 personnel over the past two months.”

...

“The uptick in losses reflects Russia’s opening of the new front in the Kharkiv region, while maintaining the same rate of offensive operations along the remainder of the front,” its update said.

“Although this new approach has increased the pressure on the front line, an effective Ukrainian defence and a lack of Russian training reduces Russia’s ability to stretch and exploit any tactical successes, despite attempting to stretch the front line further.”...

This is basically a failed offensive, since the offensive has not yet been able to be exploited for meaningful strategic gains and is, to some extent, being maintained at the expense of continuing significant losses.

If this offensive gained tactically exploitable ground, things may be defined a little differently. But, it has failed to do that. Yet, the press continues. That is... unwise. One does not feed a loss. Yet, that is what is happening. That isn't a military decision, one wouldn't think, but a political one.

For those sorts of high-profile politically expedient headlines to yield "New Offensive" messaging, Russia is now paying 1000 soldiers a day in killed and wounded.

2022: https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2022-08-25/putin-orders-russian-army-to-increase-size-amid-mounting-death-toll-in-ukraine

2023: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-increases-maximum-size-armed-forces-by-170000-servicemen-2023-12-01/

However, the Norther Offensive begun by Russia demonstrates a more refined capability than has been evident in the past. As many defense agencies have commented, Russia has learned from some of its mistakes.

Yet, while operationally and logistically they have improved, the tactics and inspiration behind Russian offenses remain firmly rooted in WWII/Cold War battlefield tactics which require casualties - Ground gained by blood.

Congressional Research Service Report: https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12606

...Casualties U.S. intelligence agencies reportedly estimated inDecember 2023 that the Russian military had suffered 315,000 killed and injured. The rates arguably reflect the
continued use of tactics that resulted in high casualty rates in the past. These tactics include a reliance on massed personnel attacks, indiscriminate artillery fire, and limited tactical-level flexibility. Casualty totals likely include mobilized personnel, volunteers, National Guard, recruited prison convicts, and personnel from Russian-occupied Ukrainian regions. Overall, the casualties represent 87% of Russia’s estimated pre-war ground strength of about 360,000 personnel...

Yet, by many reports, Putin's popularity has risen among the general public after the March "election."

These failed offenses represent empty chairs around family dining-room tables. The costs are being paid, but nothing is gained. Even so, it appears that Putin still commands the positive popular opinion of Russians. Will Putin leverage that, further?

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-mobilization-war-ukraine-prisons/32873203.html

The Vyorstka Telegram channel on March 22 cited four sources close to the presidential office and Defense Ministry as saying that Moscow plans to soon announce a new wave of military mobilization that would seek to enlist up to 300,000 people to bolster its troops involved in the ongoing invasion of Ukraine.

According to the sources, the idea to announce the mobilization came about because of the decreasing number of people willing to go to the war.

After President Vladimir Putin announced a partial mobilization in September 2022, tens of thousands of Russian men fled the country to avoid enlistment.

Meanwhile, Mark Denisov, the ombudsman in Russia's Krasnoyarsk Krai, said on March 21 that several penitentiaries in the Siberian region will be shut down this year due to the ongoing recruitment of inmates for the war....

What comes next until Putin is forced to call for General Mobilization and "War?"

https://breakingdefense.com/2024/07/first-f-16-fighter-jets-on-their-way-to-ukraine-to-fly-this-summer/

Will the appearance of these new assets provoke a more desperate response? How will they be used? How is Russia going to respond? It's a new variable... What next?


Note: Not that Ukraine is free from the lure and need to "make headlines," either. Their somewhat failed counter-offensive in 2023 was also partially driven by similar needs, IMO. But, at least part of that was to establish more advantageous lines and to attempt to prevent tactically disadvantageous ones from emerging. (eg: "Bulges" in the lines that could threaten encirclement) Protecting certain tactically important positions to prevent Russian artillery from gaining commanding presence was also an objective, one which Russia has doggedly pursued for logical reasons.

PS: Wanted to add this: https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/05/16/general-staff-ukrainian-forces-foil-russian-entrenchment-in-vovchansk/

It is to be expected that the entrenched positions Russia was allowed to expand in the territories gained during their initial offensive would inspire them to do the same in their Northern advance. Entrenchments are effective, as was seen during Ukraine's counteroffensive. But... they represent "killing fields." not advancement. They can support offences, but are largely maintained by expending even more blood. Russia is reverting to trench warfare out of necessity... which is going to raise the costs.

[kingjames488]

I don't see russia winning now that the rest of the world is openly supporting a ukrainian counter-offensive with western weapon systems...

[Morkonan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av kingjames488:

I don't see russia winning now that the rest of the world is openly supporting a ukrainian counter-offensive with western weapon systems...

Only in regards to missile/artillery. AFAIK, there is no support for the use of Western weapons in a ground offensive aimed at invading Russia.

[kingjames488]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Morkonan:

Ursprungligen skrivet av kingjames488:

I don't see russia winning now that the rest of the world is openly supporting a ukrainian counter-offensive with western weapon systems...

Only in regards to missile/artillery. AFAIK, there is no support for the use of Western weapons in a ground offensive aimed at invading Russia.

yes there is... they just worded it cyptically and said something like "in the same way ukrane was attacked we endorse them to use these weapons to defend themselves".

it's not a coincidence the next day putin made an announcement that any use of western weapons against russian terretory would be a "major escalation".

[Caldari Ghost]

if ukrainian ethnicity is depleted trying to defend or retake the land it wont matter if they succeed.