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Shinoskay 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 10:28
guys.... help
guys.... I've kind of joined camp "dont give steam more money" because I'm upset with valve....

but then I've been looking at arma for 3 years now and its 90 percent off.... help. I feel weak.
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Crazy Tiger 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 9:19 
Not sure why people want the world to be divided into camps. Just buy or don't buy the game, what's the need to start a thread about it?
Shinoskay 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 9:23 
引用自 Crazy Tiger
Not sure why people want the world to be divided into camps. Just buy or don't buy the game, what's the need to start a thread about it?
its not about camps. its about speaking up and putting your money where your mouth is.

Why should I spend money on something that not only doesnt care about me but mistreats me?

and its our patriotic duty to speak up about injustice... after all, maybe some people (as shown above) do not yet know what is being done to them. I only hope those above, who expressed they dont know, go out and search around the forum to better understand what all steam has been doing.
Elation 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 9:30 
引用自 Shinoskay
引用自 Crazy Tiger
Not sure why people want the world to be divided into camps. Just buy or don't buy the game, what's the need to start a thread about it?
its not about camps. its about speaking up and putting your money where your mouth is.
Then maybe you should uninstall Steam and forget about all the games you have on here.

引用自 Shinoskay
Why should I spend money on something that not only doesnt care about me but mistreats me?
I hate to be the one to tell you this (well, actually not really), but no business actually really cares about you.

引用自 Shinoskay

and its our patriotic duty to speak up about injustice... after all, maybe some people (as shown above) do not yet know what is being done to them. I only hope those above, who expressed they dont know, go out and search around the forum to better understand what all steam has been doing.
Who is "our" exactly...? And patriotic duty? Lmao. Anyway, I don't see anything being done to me. I admit I have only been on Steam for less than a year, but so far my experience with Steam isn't anything exceptional, both for positive and negative. But as software to launch and play some PC games, it does the job and actually has a lot of features I really like and my experiences with their customer support has been okay.

But maybe it's hard to me to feel like I'm an abused housewife since I don't delude myself into thinking I have any relationship with a corporation providing a product to me.
sage2001 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 9:43 
don't waste your time and energy being upset at a corporation that will make millions if not billions regardless of your feelings toward them.

引用自 ᴠᴇʟɴs
Took you 10 years to reach this conclusion? 10 years too late, my guy.

Buy it or don't, doesn't matter. Do what you want, we don't control your life... or do we?
Coinkydink 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 9:45 
if you wanna play online gaems you gotta suck corporate bottom - they are corporate products.
Dutchgamer1982 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 9:48 
引用自 SlowMango
You're still contributing to their active user count. Buying the game or not doesn't matter, they've already won.

lies... by using their service you cost them money.. they need to run their servers....
while they no longer profit of you.
Dutchgamer1982 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 9:49 
引用自 Shinoskay
guys.... I've kind of joined camp "dont give steam more money" because I'm upset with valve....

but then I've been looking at arma for 3 years now and its 90 percent off.... help. I feel weak.

don't just don't... go to gog.. buy something nice there
you never will own arma3 as it is a steam exclusive so it will never come to GoG..
but I am sure that GoG has plenty of nice drm free games to satisfy you.
Crazy Tiger 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 9:51 
引用自 Shinoskay
引用自 Crazy Tiger
Not sure why people want the world to be divided into camps. Just buy or don't buy the game, what's the need to start a thread about it?
its not about camps. its about speaking up and putting your money where your mouth is.

Why should I spend money on something that not only doesnt care about me but mistreats me?

and its our patriotic duty to speak up about injustice... after all, maybe some people (as shown above) do not yet know what is being done to them. I only hope those above, who expressed they dont know, go out and search around the forum to better understand what all steam has been doing.
I put my money where my mouth is, which is why I buy the games I enjoy and ignore the rest. I don't even care about much the launcher politics people seem to be so into around here. Not just Steam, also EGS and such, mind. It's a place to buy and launch games, that's all.

You should not purchase any product, or use any service, by a company if you feel that way. NO company cares about you, they all pretend it.

And patriotic duty? Sorry, I'm not American, I don't care about patriotism.
Hobbit XIII 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 9:53 
GoG !

Never answer to steam for your gaming again (with exception to stuff you already bought).
Hammer Of Evil 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 10:01 
bro... the entire arma series + all dlc and content releases have been offered on humble bundle many times in the past. If you were evil you could have handed over 5 bucks for the entire thing in steam keys. even back when it was relevant.


引用自 Shinoskay
引用自 Crazy Tiger
Not sure why people want the world to be divided into camps. Just buy or don't buy the game, what's the need to start a thread about it?
its not about camps. its about speaking up and putting your money where your mouth is.

Why should I spend money on something that not only doesnt care about me but mistreats me?

and its our patriotic duty to speak up about injustice... after all, maybe some people (as shown above) do not yet know what is being done to them. I only hope those above, who expressed they dont know, go out and search around the forum to better understand what all steam has been doing.

You're labelling something as 'unjust' and asking your readers if they're with you or against you. that's about camps.

steam mistreats you? how?

-offering you unlimited free fast downloads of your entire library?
-keeping your entire library ready for you whenever you decide to come back?
-allowing indie devs (yourself included) to learn a programming language, take a fun game concept, and take a crack at listing it on steam?
-offering deeply discounted sales many times a year?
-no paid subscription
-no forced advertisements inside the application?

what more do you expect steam to do, dude? its a store for games that also lets you talk about the games. by gamers, for gamers. it doesn't get better than this.

if you think it does, and execute the idea, you're about to become a billionaire.
brain stew 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 10:28 
Dude, Arma 3 is like $3 USD...

Even if Steam gets their 30% cut at the top end, what is that? Oh no, a whopping 90 cents USD. Pretty sure Bohemia Interactive is probably operating at a different cut anyway.

As soon as you download the game, Steam is probably losing money on that deal.
Shinoskay 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 10:32 
引用自 Elation
*snip

Cool story, kthnxbai.



引用自 Hammer Of Evil
bro... the entire arma series + all dlc and content releases have been offered on humble bundle many times in the past. If you were evil you could have handed over 5 bucks for the entire thing in steam keys. even back when it was relevant.


Just looked, no they arent.... even on my favorite third grey site they arent available for cheap.


引用自 Hammer Of Evil
You're labelling something as 'unjust' and asking your readers if they're with you or against you. that's about camps.

Is that what I said, funny... doesnt look like its what I said. When and where did I ever ask someone if they are for or against?

anyways, no, thats still not camps. Saying something is unjust is just saying something is unjust. you can read into that however you want, but its on you when you add more words to something.

引用自 Hammer Of Evil
steam mistreats you? how?

bro, you cant even be bothered to read a few posts above. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ im instantly done replying to you. blocking and moving on because just wow.

引用自 Winston
Dude, Arma 3 is like $3 USD...

Even if Steam gets their 30% cut at the top end, what is that? Oh no, a whopping 90 cents USD. Pretty sure Bohemia Interactive is probably operating at a different cut anyway.

As soon as you download the game, Steam is probably losing money on that deal.
Id probably buy several of their dlc, I hate incomplete games that require additional purchases to have the whole game but arma 3 is one of the very few that actually looks worth its money (i've been watching operator drewski)

but just the core game... you have a solid point.
最后由 Shinoskay 编辑于; 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 10:35
brain stew 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 10:43 
引用自 Shinoskay
Id probably buy several of their dlc, I hate incomplete games that require additional purchases to have the whole game but arma 3 is one of the very few that actually looks worth its money (i've been watching operator drewski)

but just the core game... you have a solid point.

Yeah, when I was looking at it, was thinking of grabbing the game with all the DLC and everything too, and do share similar sentiments. But Arma 3 goes on sale fairly often and even on Steam, I think the DLC has been cheaper. I was thinking of just grabbing the base game for now, see how it is and then maybe grab the DLC in a later sale if it seems worthwhile.

Edit: Also, Arma has had a few bundles on Humble over the years. Wouldn't be surprised if another bundle with a bunch of DLC popped up again in the future there.
最后由 brain stew 编辑于; 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 10:48
Phoenix 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 10:43 
引用自 Dutchgamer1982
引用自 SlowMango
You're still contributing to their active user count. Buying the game or not doesn't matter, they've already won.

lies... by using their service you cost them money.. they need to run their servers....
while they no longer profit of you.


Bandwidth costs are negligible. When I had my low-cost website through GoDaddy about 20 years ago, it was about 72 bucks a year and I received 500 GB of bandwidth per month. The amount of data the average user is consuming from Valve is nothing, given that Valve probably purchases petabytes of data at a time, with massive data pipes through a internet backbone provider. As long as a significant number of users keep buying games, Valve isn't going bankrupt anytime soon
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