Games made for a "modern audience" are stupid

[Chocobo & Moogle]

Let's pander to a specific group of people to make the game better. The fanbase doesn't matter.

[Crazy Tiger]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dracoco OwO:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Not Big Surprise:

if so, then tito's assessment of what a modern gamer is would be wrong
how would you define a modern audience?

You litteraly cannot define it the group is too diverse.

Correct. People use the phrase "modern gamer", but in reality they simply mean the subset "gamers who like stuff I don't like".

[Not Big Surprise]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dracoco OwO:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Not Big Surprise:

if so, then tito's assessment of what a modern gamer is would be wrong
how would you define a modern audience?

You litteraly cannot define it the group is too diverse.

what about a descriptive definition?

[Wenda]

steam users complain about capitalism without complaining about capitalism thread $3253442352342346357

[UserNotFound]

I'm busy, and happily I might add, playing old games that I have in my library. I don't care about games made for 'modern audiences' or DEI games, I say let these game devs develop such games with all that sweet DEI/ESG money, they'll basically self destruct because we gamers aren't gonna support such games.

I'd not be at all surprised that by the time these mostly western game devs realized that there's no such thing as 'modern audiences', most if not all would have fallen on the sword of DEI, or more appropriately, DIE and self destruct, much like what Ubisoft is doing to itself with DEI and their outrageous pricing schemes.

I watched a few of their gameplay vids and was astonished.......at how bad graphics and game mechanics was, I mean stormtroopers shooting at side of building while the overpowered MC stood in full view at the side......amazing.....ly bad!

[Average Cardboard Consumer /|\]

Fk fanbase.
Fk customers.
A real gamedeveloper has to build from ground up a game that he believes in. From his heart. Fanbases and customers will come eventually sooner or later.
The first game that comes to my mind is Minecraft ;)

[Not Big Surprise]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Happy Asian Man /|\:

Fk fanbase.
Fk customers.
A real gamedeveloper has to build from ground up a game that he believes in. From his heart. Fanbases and customers will come eventually sooner or later.
The first game that comes to my mind is Minecraft ;)

...why the winky face

[Average Cardboard Consumer /|\]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Happy Asian Man /|\:

Fk fanbase.
Fk customers.
A real gamedeveloper has to build from ground up a game that he believes in. From his heart. Fanbases and customers will come eventually sooner or later.
The first game that comes to my mind is Minecraft ;)

Probably... all Volvo games too :0

[Average Cardboard Consumer /|\]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Not Big Surprise:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Happy Asian Man /|\:

Fk fanbase.
Fk customers.
A real gamedeveloper has to build from ground up a game that he believes in. From his heart. Fanbases and customers will come eventually sooner or later.
The first game that comes to my mind is Minecraft ;)

...why the winky face

... why not :*

[Not Big Surprise]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Anoi Hidalgo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dog:

steam users complain about capitalism without complaining about capitalism thread $3253442352342346357

i dont really see at as a issue with capitalism. Make crappy products no one wants? We ll capitalism deals with it
https://www.polygon.com/24177290/video-game-industry-layoffs-studio-closures-record

see this would be a good point if the higher-ups weren't simultaneously throwing money left and right to satisfy their vices, like spending 2.3 million dollars on cars

[Xero_Daxter]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Not Big Surprise:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Anoi Hidalgo:

i dont really see at as a issue with capitalism. Make crappy products no one wants? We ll capitalism deals with it
https://www.polygon.com/24177290/video-game-industry-layoffs-studio-closures-record

see this would be a good point if the higher-ups weren't simultaneously throwing money left and right to satisfy their vices, like spending 2.3 million dollars on cars

I couldn't imagine spending 2 million dollars on a car. I live in a small town and only like..... 50 people at most is gonna see it. xD

[Crazy Tiger]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xero_Daxter:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Not Big Surprise:

see this would be a good point if the higher-ups weren't simultaneously throwing money left and right to satisfy their vices, like spending 2.3 million dollars on cars

I couldn't imagine spending 2 million dollars on a car. I live in a small town and only like..... 50 people at most is gonna see it. xD

It matters to you how many people can see your car?

[Not Big Surprise]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xero_Daxter:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Not Big Surprise:

see this would be a good point if the higher-ups weren't simultaneously throwing money left and right to satisfy their vices, like spending 2.3 million dollars on cars

I couldn't imagine spending 2 million dollars on a car. I live in a small town and only like..... 50 people at most is gonna see it. xD

oh no, not one car
multiple cars

[Jackie Daytona]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von AdahnGorion:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von talemore:

It's called DEI

Because they DEID

DEI initiatives existed even back in the 70´s

And they weren't popular then, either.

In fact, people looked back and called it "blacksploitation". People were trying to get more black actors into cinema. Then were called "exploiters".

You can't win! Exclude blacks? You're racist. Include blacks? You are using them. There's no way to keep the woke people off you. No matter what you do they will find a reason to hate you.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von AdahnGorion:

Basically we are the angry old grandparents that say "Kids these days"

This has nothing to do with age. I'm sick of people saying there's something wrong with *me* because I want a game that represents me and the things I believe in.

[King of Games]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tito Shivan:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von King of Games:

and which games would those be

Pick any recent AAA game and you'll have the same people complain about "pandering", "wokism" and other terms used in this thread.

i dont really keep up with new games, can you give me some examples

[Moogal™]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von King of Games:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tito Shivan:

Pick any recent AAA game and you'll have the same people complain about "pandering", "wokism" and other terms used in this thread.

i dont really keep up with new games, can you give me some examples

Gender neutral toilets in Dead Space (remake).