Games made for a "modern audience" are stupid

[Chocobo & Moogle]

Let's pander to a specific group of people to make the game better. The fanbase doesn't matter.

[Haiku's Knife]

Yes. It basically assures a bland and generic experience devoid of uniqueness and character.

[Chocobo & Moogle]

Originally posted by Haiku's Knife:

Yes. It basically assures a bland and generic experience devoid of uniqueness and character.

Yeah, it's dumb. Like in the Silent Hill 2 remake, Maria's character is supposed to be sexual to symbolize James's desires. Making her outfit the opposite of sexual takes away that symbolism.

[vkobe]

Originally posted by Haiku's Knife:

Yes. It basically assures a bland and generic experience devoid of uniqueness and character.

it is mostly because they lack of talents and only rely on graphics and open world

but some game may be enjoyable

for me it is alan wake 2, hogwart legacy

[76561199731863767]

It's a business decision. It makes sense to some extent I guess.

I've also heard that they do these playtesting sessions and when anyone gets stuck for like 10 seconds, they implement something so that does not happen. That's why games are so handholdy, and sometimes tell you solutions to puzzles before you even had the chance to look at them.

Fromsoft dared to go against this and it worked out great. Which has inspired many others, but not most of the western AAA devs, for some reason.

[GlaceonChireiden]

Well, yeah. The point of games is to make money. You aren't going to do that by catering to some niche crowd of 40 year olds who grew up with dos.

[Chocobo & Moogle]

Originally posted by JustSomeLego:

Well, yeah. The point of games is to make money. You aren't going to do that by catering to some niche crowd of 40 year olds who grew up with dos.

There are some decisions they should leave up to the audience though.

[Jackie Daytona]

Originally posted by Brotherhood of Steel:

Games made for a "modern audience" are stupid

Let's pander to a specific group of people to make the game better.

This "modern audience" doesn't exist. Going all the way back to the 1970's, men have been the majority of gamers.

The only reason anyone thinks differently is because of skewed stats by politically-motivated organizations. Grandmas that play a phone game 1 hour per week are not gamers. Playing games is something everyone does. Being a gamer means playing as a hobby. Or a sport.

There is plenty of room in gaming for alternative audiences. However, it shouldn't be the main thing. In every game. All the time. That becomes old really fast. And it's been the standard for 10 years. It's time to stop.

[76561199731863767]

Originally posted by Jackie Daytona:

Originally posted by Brotherhood of Steel:

Games made for a "modern audience" are stupid

Let's pander to a specific group of people to make the game better.

This "modern audience" doesn't exist. Going all the way back to the 1970's, men have been the majority of gamers.

The only reason anyone thinks differently is because of skewed stats by politically-motivated organizations. Grandmas that play a phone game 1 hour per week are not gamers. Playing games is something everyone does. Being a gamer means playing as a hobby. Or a sport.

There is plenty of room in gaming for alternative audiences. However, it shouldn't be the main thing. In every game. All the time. That becomes old really fast. And it's been the standard for 10 years. It's time to stop.

I can see at least 2 aspects to this, maybe OP should clarify what he meant exactly.

1) Handholding
2) Woke

[atomicgirl]

Originally posted by Brotherhood of Steel:

Let's pander to a specific group of people to make the game better.

They're pandering to demographics that actually play and buy games, not the ones that pretty much damaged their reputations with rage bait, doxxing, Gamer Gate, death threats and review bombing.

[kingjames488]

I want to know who gave you that clown award and not give them any awards of recognition what-so-ever because they obviously have no idea whatever game they think is "so great" has them by the wallet.

because about 10-20 years ago the point of games transitioned from some art form to a corporate money machine.

[ナルゴ]

Just don't buy them.

[Chocobo & Moogle]

Originally posted by ghost:

Originally posted by Jackie Daytona:

This "modern audience" doesn't exist. Going all the way back to the 1970's, men have been the majority of gamers.

The only reason anyone thinks differently is because of skewed stats by politically-motivated organizations. Grandmas that play a phone game 1 hour per week are not gamers. Playing games is something everyone does. Being a gamer means playing as a hobby. Or a sport.

There is plenty of room in gaming for alternative audiences. However, it shouldn't be the main thing. In every game. All the time. That becomes old really fast. And it's been the standard for 10 years. It's time to stop.

I can see at least 2 aspects to this, maybe OP should clarify what he meant exactly.

1) Handholding
2) Woke

Handholding is annoying in some games, but it's not the main issue. Woke is the real issue. Yeah, there are some women who play all game genres, but there are some who only play cozy games.

[MistyMountainHop]

Originally posted by atomicgirl:

Originally posted by Brotherhood of Steel:

Let's pander to a specific group of people to make the game better.

They're pandering to demographics that actually play and buy games, not the ones that pretty much damaged their reputations with rage bait, doxxing, Gamer Gate, death threats and review bombing.

The people that actually buy and play games are the ones you're reeeeing about.

[76561199731863767]

Originally posted by MistyMountainHop:

Originally posted by atomicgirl:

They're pandering to demographics that actually play and buy games, not the ones that pretty much damaged their reputations with rage bait, doxxing, Gamer Gate, death threats and review bombing.

The people that actually buy and play games are the ones you're reeeeing about.

Only wokies ever REEEEE. Stop stealing everything from the other side and corrupting it.

[Phirestar]

Who is this “modern audience” people keep talking about, and why do they seem to love bland, formulaic, 4/10 products so much?