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America's economy is a load of horsecrap
No one wants to be wage slaves in this country. Also, everything is overpriced from inflation.
Отредактировано Obelisk; 1 июл. 2024 г. в 19:45
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Hey, maybe this will be some consolation or something, but you're suffering today to make things worse for the Russians.
Wages are high in USA, so as long as you got a good job you should be fine.
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So start a business.

Not everyone can start a business. Even if you did, most businesses begin their operation at a significant loss, and even mature businesses are a single accident away from going bankrupt. Yes, hm, truly starting a business is the sign of a struggling man. But I digress.

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What you're seeing is the increasing social stratification and a slow return to feudalism. The rich are rich and the poor will stay poor, or at least that's the plan. Structural violence[en.wikipedia.org] and Social murder[en.wikipedia.org] are a thing, and will continue getting worse.

By the way, if you think that things getting worse will somehow wake up the governments, think again. It's more likely the nation-state will become a surveillance state (North Korea) police state (the US) or military junta (Myanmar, Egypt)

Unless people start helping each other and forming grassroot organizations, things will not get better. Ever. Even if you're unable to make one, there are certainly some local, independent organizations that you could support. Change starts at home.
Отредактировано Prinzip; 2 июл. 2024 г. в 2:48
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everything is overpriced from inflation.

It's not inflation. It's corporate greed. Grocery prices are up 40%-100%. Average inflation since 2019 was 4.20% resulting in a cumulative inflation 22.85%. Groceries are, at minimum, twice that increase. Meanwhile big companies are enjoying record profits which they're using to give CEOs multi million dollar bonuses and buying back their own stocks.

America is dudes who make $2,500 an hour telling dudes who make $20 an hour that the dudes who make $15 an hour make too much money.
pretty much this
And while USA can have bad wages, american wages in general are better than wages in like Europe. Although there are some issues and maybe also culture that make it not feel like that.
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No one wants to be wage slaves in ANY country (needed editing)

So true, as we enslave ourselves to the mighty income, the measure of success, the ultimate worship for economic freedom. Wage slave is a very apt description of how we carve out our existence with our capitalistic tools, skills & knowledge.

Really, do we have to think about it? Don't we already live in a system of milk & honey? Capitalism rules supreme, yes it does. So the question of any slavery is one of self determination & how we interpret & use capitalism to the best of our abilities.

Competition is king & how we choose to enslave ourselves to carve out an existence, is up to us as individuals, by choice or by force, we use in the hope of advancing our financial stability. Slave or not, we use it for survival,
Отредактировано Professor; 2 июл. 2024 г. в 6:01
I realized a long time ago, Capitalism is a flame. Like a flame, it can be very useful. It can make things happen quickly. But also like a flame, if it is not properly controlled, it will destroy everything it can. The fire does not care if it's cooking the meal, or burning the house to the ground. Just as important as making conditions to make the fire is making conditions to unmake it.

Which is why it's ironic how the angry wave discontented with the current state of the flame, has rallied around a pyro.

When Capitalism became mixed up with a societal ideal, a way of life, that's when it was set up to fail. Capitalism is not a way of life. It is a means to an end. It is the best system we seem to be able to manage. But that doesn't means it's perfect, or that its current practitioners are perfect at it. If you run the machine of Capitalism to its logical conclusion, you get one guy with everything, and everybody else dead.

It's very easy now to paint the States as some villainous thing when many other countries can take better care of their citizenry. But wealthier Americans still have more freedom and opportunity by bracket than any of their contemporaries in those other humane countries. It's just the pricepoint for it keeps getting higher, the market for it smaller.

Maybe Clinton was right back in then90s, but it may be now that he's wrong. What is wrong with America maybe cannot be fixed by what is right with America. The scales are too imbalanced. And that sucks, because if America became unhealthy, with all likely alternatives showing that they would be really bad or completely uninterested in preserving the modern, liberty-protecting order America entrenched, the world could get very bad very quick.
Отредактировано Realigo Actual; 2 июл. 2024 г. в 6:04
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I realized a long time ago, Capitalism is a flame. Like a flame, it can be very useful. It can make things happen quickly. But also like a flame, if it is not properly controlled, it will destroy everything it can. The fire does not care if it's cooking the meal, or burning the house to the ground. Just as important as making conditions to make the fire is making conditions to unmake it.

I've used this analogy before. It's apt. I like it.
I keep telling everybody to stop participating in it, but they just keep coming back with "shut up we love being miserable why don't you want to be miserable too heyyyy wait COME BACK HERE AND SUFFER!!!1"



At this point, I'm very very happy to stay unemployed and homeless until it stops being amusing to watch people work their asses off to barely scrape by instead of spending half that effort standing up for themselves
Everyone is a slave to wages no matter where you are from
Cmoooon hyperinflation! Make all of my debts worthless! Lets gooooo!
America as a country is collapsing. Corporate greed is reducing household formation and the younger generations are struggling compared to Boomers.
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America as a country is collapsing. Corporate greed is reducing household formation and the younger generations are struggling compared to Boomers.

The boomers made their house their everything, their nest egg/retirement/etc. So to keep their houses worth a lot, houses for everyone are kept more unaffordable.
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