Desktop Linux Rant

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6YDQobJbLc

It's actually more useful for the average user. For people who only do less than a handful of task on their system OR have hours and hours in a day to install and config system files, I guess I see why Linux is better to you.

BUT if you're a power user who does more than just game and also users your PC for automation and productivity, Linux falls apart and starts to become a massive waste of time. It's not that any of it is hard, it's just annoying and trouble shooting every other thing on your system gets old fast.

I'm not working or creating, I'm fixing things and pulling commands from the internet.

I'm in the process of building a Steam machine, so I can 100% agree with some of the Pro's Linux distros have in security, performance and ease of access. It's just not quite there for a 'One Size Fits All' OS.

There is a lot Linux does not do and there is a lot Linux does not do very well still.... I'd like to see improvements to the back end and I'm pretty sure that's what many of us are waiting for.

[Ulfrinn]

There are people who get pissy if they can't have every single little application exactly the same way, or have to put more than 10 seconds worth of effort into something. Case in point is his complaining about modding and widescreen hacks. They ALL work, I use them, Morrowind included. He's just unwilling to learn because it's easier to complain about it and take the easier route. So if he's going to be lazy about it and just want to complain, maybe he should stay on Windows, because apparently the problems Windows has aren't that big of an issue to him.

And Adobe products? Come on. They're ancient. There's better for people willing to learn something different. And if Adobe started losing enough customers due to their unwillingness to support other operating systems, they'd very quickly start supporting them. Be the change you want to see. Don't let Adobe force you onto the mess Microsoft is creating for everyone.

[sleeps]

not everyone is getting into it and that's fine.

[Jonzuk]

Check out NixOS OP :), Set it up once you're all set forever, I used to HATE linux before I found out about NixOS the great thing is i can install windows if i decide to in the future and this config will stay on my github until im ready to come back to nixos

[sage2001]

i wanna use linux, but not having all of my windows games carry over is a major flaw.

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Ulfrinn の投稿を引用：

There are people who get pissy if they can't have every single little application exactly the same way, or have to put more than 10 seconds worth of effort into something. Case in point is his complaining about modding and widescreen hacks. They ALL work, I use them, Morrowind included. He's just unwilling to learn because it's easier to complain about it and take the easier route. So if he's going to be lazy about it and just want to complain, maybe he should stay on Windows, because apparently the problems Windows has aren't that big of an issue to him.

And Adobe products? Come on. They're ancient. There's better for people willing to learn something different. And if Adobe started losing enough customers due to their unwillingness to support other operating systems, they'd very quickly start supporting them. Be the change you want to see. Don't let Adobe force you onto the mess Microsoft is creating for everyone.

You're talking from preference and not facts... There are many different applications that do not work on Linux, aside from the fact that many companies use specific programs.

"If it works for me, it must work for thee" does not apply here. I model, do video editing, play lot's of older titles and current ones as well. A handful of application or titles in those categories do not work and have zero compatibility or replacement application on Linux.

You guys have the same argument every time "laziness" It's just a superiority complex

Swallow it, some stuff just does not work on Linux period. It isn't magic lol

[Jonzuk]

sage2001 の投稿を引用：

i wanna use linux, but not having all of my windows games carry over is a major flaw.

if you have two GPU's you can easily passthrough to a virtual machine and run most games but its still not ideal and a few odd games may boot you off for using a VM (think you can bypass that but im not sure) its upto you if its worth going through all that just to play games on linux, i think most people should dual boot linux and windows

[Jonzuk]

𝖠̶̶̅𝖨̶̶̅𝖬̶̶̅ の投稿を引用：

Ulfrinn の投稿を引用：

There are people who get pissy if they can't have every single little application exactly the same way, or have to put more than 10 seconds worth of effort into something. Case in point is his complaining about modding and widescreen hacks. They ALL work, I use them, Morrowind included. He's just unwilling to learn because it's easier to complain about it and take the easier route. So if he's going to be lazy about it and just want to complain, maybe he should stay on Windows, because apparently the problems Windows has aren't that big of an issue to him.

And Adobe products? Come on. They're ancient. There's better for people willing to learn something different. And if Adobe started losing enough customers due to their unwillingness to support other operating systems, they'd very quickly start supporting them. Be the change you want to see. Don't let Adobe force you onto the mess Microsoft is creating for everyone.

You're talking from preference and not facts... There are many different applications that do not work on Linux, aside from the fact that many companies use specific programs.

"If it works for me, it must work for thee" does not apply here. I model, do video editing, play lot's of older titles and current ones as well. A handful of application or titles in those categories do not work and have zero compatibility or replacement application.

You guys have the same argument every time "laziness" It's just a superiority complex

Swallow it, some stuff just does not work on Linux period. It isn't magic lol

You can set up a virtual machine to work with any windows application but its like why not just run windows at that point if everything youre gonna do requires windows, I feel ya man its a tough spot to be in hopefully companies can support Linux more soon

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jonzuk の投稿を引用：

𝖠̶̶̅𝖨̶̶̅𝖬̶̶̅ の投稿を引用：

You're talking from preference and not facts... There are many different applications that do not work on Linux, aside from the fact that many companies use specific programs.

"If it works for me, it must work for thee" does not apply here. I model, do video editing, play lot's of older titles and current ones as well. A handful of application or titles in those categories do not work and have zero compatibility or replacement application.

You guys have the same argument every time "laziness" It's just a superiority complex

Swallow it, some stuff just does not work on Linux period. It isn't magic lol

You can set up a virtual machine to work with any windows application but its like why not just run windows at that point if everything youre gonna do requires windows, I feel ya man its a tough spot to be in hopefully companies can support Linux more soon

The problem is that many programs won't work through a VM or are going to introduce issues in performance or latency

[sage2001]

jonzuk の投稿を引用：

sage2001 の投稿を引用：

i wanna use linux, but not having all of my windows games carry over is a major flaw.

if you have two GPU's you can easily passthrough to a virtual machine and run most games but its still not ideal and a few odd games may boot you off for using a VM (think you can bypass that but im not sure) its upto you if its worth going through all that just to play games on linux, i think most people should dual boot linux and windows

dual-booting. my main concern there is space. how big of a partition would you recommend? i have about 70 gigs of free space on my c drive.

[Ulfrinn]

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Ulfrinn の投稿を引用：

There are people who get pissy if they can't have every single little application exactly the same way, or have to put more than 10 seconds worth of effort into something. Case in point is his complaining about modding and widescreen hacks. They ALL work, I use them, Morrowind included. He's just unwilling to learn because it's easier to complain about it and take the easier route. So if he's going to be lazy about it and just want to complain, maybe he should stay on Windows, because apparently the problems Windows has aren't that big of an issue to him.

And Adobe products? Come on. They're ancient. There's better for people willing to learn something different. And if Adobe started losing enough customers due to their unwillingness to support other operating systems, they'd very quickly start supporting them. Be the change you want to see. Don't let Adobe force you onto the mess Microsoft is creating for everyone.

You're talking from preference and not facts... There are many different applications that do not work on Linux, aside from the fact that many companies use specific programs.

"If it works for me, it must work for thee" does not apply here. I model, do video editing, play lot's of older titles and current ones as well. A handful of application or titles in those categories do not work and have zero compatibility or replacement application on Linux.

You guys have the same argument every time "laziness" It's just a superiority complex

Swallow it, some stuff just does not work on Linux period. It isn't magic lol

I'm speaking from a fact perspective. The number of applications not supported is minimal, and the numbers are plummeting every month as support grows exponentially. If you want even more software to be supported, you have to show there's a market for it. You can't just sit on Windows and hope they'll support Linux first. Be the change you want to see. Show them more people want to use Linux. That's how you get even more software ported.

[𝔈𝔩𝔊𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔬]

Ulfrinn の投稿を引用：

𝖠̶̶̅𝖨̶̶̅𝖬̶̶̅ の投稿を引用：

You're talking from preference and not facts... There are many different applications that do not work on Linux, aside from the fact that many companies use specific programs.

"If it works for me, it must work for thee" does not apply here. I model, do video editing, play lot's of older titles and current ones as well. A handful of application or titles in those categories do not work and have zero compatibility or replacement application on Linux.

You guys have the same argument every time "laziness" It's just a superiority complex

Swallow it, some stuff just does not work on Linux period. It isn't magic lol

I'm speaking from a fact perspective. The number of applications not supported is minimal, and the numbers are plummeting every month as support grows exponentially. If you want even more software to be supported, you have to show there's a market for it. You can't just sit on Windows and hope they'll support Linux first. Be the change you want to see. Show them more people want to use Linux. That's how you get even more software ported.

I'm not a backer, I'm in software and music production. The editing and production software I use is either broken on Linux and has no dev support or doesn't work at all.
PreSonus is a huge one, as it cost us a lot of money. It's completely borked on Linux and we have songs to write, videos to produce, all this different stuff to get done. I can't mess with my OS.

Linux isn't ever going to be what people who use it want it to be, because they expect people who don't have the time to make time and be beta tester.

[LeviathanWon]

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Ulfrinn の投稿を引用：

I'm speaking from a fact perspective. The number of applications not supported is minimal, and the numbers are plummeting every month as support grows exponentially. If you want even more software to be supported, you have to show there's a market for it. You can't just sit on Windows and hope they'll support Linux first. Be the change you want to see. Show them more people want to use Linux. That's how you get even more software ported.

I'm not a backer, I'm in software and music production. The editing and production software I use is either broken on Linux and has no dev support or doesn't work at all.
PreSonus is a huge one, as it cost us a lot of money. It's completely borked on Linux and we have songs to write, videos to produce, all this different stuff to get done. I can't mess with my OS.

Linux isn't ever going to be what people who use it want it to be, because they expect people who don't have the time to make time and be beta tester.

Just buy an apple computer then cool guy.

[𝔈𝔩𝔊𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔬]

LeviathanWon の投稿を引用：

𝖠̶̶̅𝖨̶̶̅𝖬̶̶̅ の投稿を引用：

I'm not a backer, I'm in software and music production. The editing and production software I use is either broken on Linux and has no dev support or doesn't work at all.
PreSonus is a huge one, as it cost us a lot of money. It's completely borked on Linux and we have songs to write, videos to produce, all this different stuff to get done. I can't mess with my OS.

Linux isn't ever going to be what people who use it want it to be, because they expect people who don't have the time to make time and be beta tester.

Just buy an apple computer then cool guy.

We have an M4 iPad Pro setup in the studio cool guy, it also works wonderfully on my WINDOWS SYSTEM -- My man...

[Vince ✟]

From a media production and content creation standpoint, it is completely behind and lacking.

For someone wanting to control and maintain the infrastructure of their own servers, explore languages and the subsequent nefarious use of such knowledge to further maintain their own security processes, Linux is fine. It is much like those who wish to buy an Android phone and crack into it opening up all its possibilities ( and likely breaking their gear because of experimentation ) , vs an Iphone user who accepts that things run properly if there are no exclamation points or red error screens.

One is not better than the other. I prefer Windows. I prefer easy. Linux was fun to play with, but I would liken the use of Linux to the use of my Raspberry Pi, in that it was great fun for experimentation and learning, but quite poor for actual daily use.

[Ulfrinn]

𝖠̶̶̅𝖨̶̶̅𝖬̶̶̅ の投稿を引用：

Ulfrinn の投稿を引用：

I'm speaking from a fact perspective. The number of applications not supported is minimal, and the numbers are plummeting every month as support grows exponentially. If you want even more software to be supported, you have to show there's a market for it. You can't just sit on Windows and hope they'll support Linux first. Be the change you want to see. Show them more people want to use Linux. That's how you get even more software ported.

I'm not a backer, I'm in software and music production. The editing and production software I use is either broken on Linux and has no dev support or doesn't work at all.
PreSonus is a huge one, as it cost us a lot of money. It's completely borked on Linux and we have songs to write, videos to produce, all this different stuff to get done. I can't mess with my OS.

Linux isn't ever going to be what people who use it want it to be, because they expect people who don't have the time to make time and be beta tester.

Yup, thus proving my point. The "I don't want to learn slightly different software or figure out the proper way to install what I use" crowd. Windows is fine for casual users who don't have the courage to blaze new trails for the rest of the world.

And PreSonus isn't the example you want to be using. It proves my point, not yours. It's not "borked" it's beta. PreSonus is in current development of native Linux ports of their software which proves what I said, that major companies are rushing to support Linux natively.