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Rain't (Banned) Jul 1, 2024 @ 7:38am
[MANDELA EFFECT] Share Your Weirdest Ones
This pisses me off- a lot. There are some WILD theories trying to explain this, but the most realistic I've started to adopt is a psyop via manipulations of internet media. I sat comfortable with this until I realised physical objects still have these effects. Could it actually be simulation theory having corrupted memory?

One that I think about almost daily when I put my underwear on- Fruit of the Loom

https://knowyourmeme.com/editorials/guides/whats-the-fruit-of-the-loom-cornucopia-mandela-effect-the-confusing-history-of-what-was-never-there-explained

https://i.kym-cdn.com/editorials/icons/mobile/000/006/112/fruitofloom.jpg

In what other context would I have been exposed to a cornucopia? Feels VERY strange. There are more like the Monopoly Man's non-existent monocle, Curious George's tail, Pikachu's black tipped tail, Berenstein bears, list goes on...

Anyone have some theories to contribute?
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Morkonan Jul 1, 2024 @ 7:44am 
Originally posted by Rain't:
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Anyone have some theories to contribute?

There's nothing conspiratorial going on, here.

This is evidence of how our brain works... That's all it is. Our brains have been working this way for a very long time and we're still here.

So, you can think of such things as memetic illusions. Our brains have a way of constructing "factual" data that is not actually "factual" because that has served us so well for so long. But, when it's examined in the finest detail, we find things that we thought were true are not really true...

That's why a close examination of evidenced facts are needed in many professions and when we, ourselves, are gathering information regarding important decisions we have to make.

And, when someone is going to make an important decision and believes there is no further useful information they need to learn, as they already know it all.... Well, "oops."
Easy explanation.

People forgot and fabricated their own memory. It happens. Not psyop conspiracy needed.
Rain't (Banned) Jul 1, 2024 @ 7:46am 
Originally posted by Morkonan:
Originally posted by Rain't:
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Anyone have some theories to contribute?

There's nothing conspiratorial going on, here.

This is evidence of how our brain works... That's all it is. Our brains have been working this way for a very long time and we're still here.

So, you can think of such things as memetic illusions. Our brains have a way of constructing "factual" data that is not actually "factual" because that has served us so well for so long. But, when it's examined in the finest detail, we find things that we thought were true are not really true...

That's why a close examination of evidenced facts are needed in many professions and when we, ourselves, are gathering information regarding important decisions we have to make.

And, when someone is going to make an important decision and believes there is no further useful information they need to learn, as they already know it all.... Well, "oops."

I'd understand this if it wasn't shared by multiple people with different geography, and no prior connections to those people. It feels far too strange and coincidental to be shared by millions
Originally posted by Rain't:
Originally posted by Morkonan:

There's nothing conspiratorial going on, here.

This is evidence of how our brain works... That's all it is. Our brains have been working this way for a very long time and we're still here.

So, you can think of such things as memetic illusions. Our brains have a way of constructing "factual" data that is not actually "factual" because that has served us so well for so long. But, when it's examined in the finest detail, we find things that we thought were true are not really true...

That's why a close examination of evidenced facts are needed in many professions and when we, ourselves, are gathering information regarding important decisions we have to make.

And, when someone is going to make an important decision and believes there is no further useful information they need to learn, as they already know it all.... Well, "oops."

I'd understand this if it wasn't shared by multiple people with different geography, and no prior connections to those people. It feels far too strange and coincidental to be shared by millions
You mean in an age where we can share information across the world instantly there are people who believe the same thing? That's crazy.
Rain't (Banned) Jul 1, 2024 @ 8:00am 
Originally posted by Dragonzord:
People were claiming in Are you afraid of the Dark TV Show (1990s Version) that the opening sequence used to show kids on a park merry go round.

I don't agree or disagree as it's been so long since the 90s ,it does sound familiar but I honestly cant say for sure whether or not that was part of the opening sequence or they were just confusing it with the fan..

Some people swear they remember a merry go round though.

However if it was true, you would think there would be a clip of it somewhere on the internet and I have done due diligence and found no such clip so I am inclined to believe its the mandela effect .

It's such a weirdly specific thing to collectively impose, though... I don't understand how there's so many examples of this stuff, and why it's shared by so many people. Even the one about Mandela himself and people remembering a funeral service on TV that apparently never happened?
Basho Jul 1, 2024 @ 8:05am 
Originally posted by Morkonan:
Originally posted by Rain't:
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Anyone have some theories to contribute?

There's nothing conspiratorial going on, here.

This is evidence of how our brain works... That's all it is. Our brains have been working this way for a very long time and we're still here.

So, you can think of such things as memetic illusions. Our brains have a way of constructing "factual" data that is not actually "factual" because that has served us so well for so long. But, when it's examined in the finest detail, we find things that we thought were true are not really true...

That's why a close examination of evidenced facts are needed in many professions and when we, ourselves, are gathering information regarding important decisions we have to make.

And, when someone is going to make an important decision and believes there is no further useful information they need to learn, as they already know it all.... Well, "oops."

first of all, agreed.

but i like to think about tangents to the idea as well.

i'd go so far as to say you yourself construct the experiences you want, to a reasonable extent, constructing and rejecting memories as you go.
the factual world may have little bearing on how you perceive things.

the simplest example would be something like picking up a cup you think contains coffee and having a sip, only to be shocked and a bit disgusted to find you actually took a sip of orange juice.
even if you like orange juice, the contrast to your expectation makes it taste unpleasant because you already had a desired experience lined up in your head.

another example could be disliking a piece of clothing, only to start liking it once you find out it is by an expensive brand.

you can also go through experiences that did not actually happen, notably by the way of fiction.
the actual events didnt happen, but your experience of them kinda did.

conversely, if you barrel through an experience at full speed and then remember little of it afterwards (including binge watching a tv series, as a simple example), then did it actually happen?
of course it did, factually, but as far as your constructed experiences go they might as well not have.

the wildest thing about that is the fact that rather than actually going into something like a file storage to retrieve your memories, you are reconstructing them each time, sometimes making revisions as you go. so eventually your memories of an event can be far removed from the factual event simply because of your own unconscious revisions and filtering due to new knowledge etc.
not at all unlike what can be seen with AI hallucinations.

maybe im rambling, but i guess what im trying to say is i recommend trying to be factual, being conscious of your experiences to make the fullest of them, and also to manage your expectations.
Originally posted by Dragonzord:
People were claiming in Are you afraid of the Dark TV Show (1990s Version) that the opening sequence used to show kids on a park merry go round.

I don't agree or disagree as it's been so long since the 90s ,it does sound familiar but I honestly cant say for sure whether or not that was part of the opening sequence or they were just confusing it with the fan..

Some people swear they remember a merry go round though.

However if it was true, you would think there would be a clip of it somewhere on the internet and I have done due diligence and found no such clip so I am inclined to believe its the mandela effect .
The Mandela Effect is literally just "I Forgot: The Conspiracy".
Rain't (Banned) Jul 1, 2024 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by Basho:
Originally posted by Morkonan:

There's nothing conspiratorial going on, here.

This is evidence of how our brain works... That's all it is. Our brains have been working this way for a very long time and we're still here.

So, you can think of such things as memetic illusions. Our brains have a way of constructing "factual" data that is not actually "factual" because that has served us so well for so long. But, when it's examined in the finest detail, we find things that we thought were true are not really true...

That's why a close examination of evidenced facts are needed in many professions and when we, ourselves, are gathering information regarding important decisions we have to make.

And, when someone is going to make an important decision and believes there is no further useful information they need to learn, as they already know it all.... Well, "oops."

first of all, agreed.

but i like to think about tangents to the idea as well.

i'd go so far as to say you yourself construct the experiences you want, to a reasonable extent, constructing and rejecting memories as you go.
the factual world may have little bearing on how you perceive things.

the simplest example would be something like picking up a cup you think contains coffee and having a sip, only to be shocked and a bit disgusted to find you actually took a sip of orange juice.
even if you like orange juice, the contrast to your expectation makes it taste unpleasant because you already had a desired experience lined up in your head.

another example could be disliking a piece of clothing, only to start liking it once you find out it is by an expensive brand.

you can also go through experiences that did not actually happen, notably by the way of fiction.
the actual events didnt happen, but your experience of them kinda did.

conversely, if you barrel through an experience at full speed and then remember little of it afterwards (including binge watching a tv series, as a simple example), then did it actually happen?
of course it did, factually, but as far as your constructed experiences go they might as well not have.

the wildest thing about that is the fact that rather than actually going into something like a file storage to retrieve your memories, you are reconstructing them each time, sometimes making revisions as you go. so eventually your memories of an event can be far removed from the factual event simply because of your own unconscious revisions and filtering due to new knowledge etc.
not at all unlike what can be seen with AI hallucinations.

maybe im rambling, but i guess what im trying to say is i recommend trying to be factual, being conscious of your experiences to make the fullest of them, and also to manage your expectations.

Nobody has an objective perception of reality- it's all interpreted through your own imperfect senses. I understand what you're saying, and I'd also understand if it was a sliver of people experiencing these things- but it's a LOT of people experiencing the same thing. The cornucopia example gets me because I've never seen that dumb basket in any other context, so why I, or anyone else, would impose such a strangely specific object into that scene with the same shared colouring is very, very strange
ZheZleepiest Jul 1, 2024 @ 8:51am 
the playstation controller... IT HAD A YELLOW DIAMOND BUTTON. I SWEAR ON MY LIFE IT DID. and the boots ice cream
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