Why are Scandinavian countries pushing LGBTQ stuff so much ?

[Tiberius]

Why are Scandinavian countries pushing LGBTQ stuff so much ?

Tolerance is one thing, but what happens in Scandinavian countries such as Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland (Finnland not so much) is just excessive.

Do people there really support this stuff or is it another case of " the government is doing it " kind of thing ?

Any Scandinavians here who might bother to educate me ?

[Tiberius]

İlk olarak AdahnGorion tarafından gönderildi:

I think you mistake tolerance for pushing.
I´ve never seen LGBT+ events in my scandinavian country and its not something any one speak or talk about either. I guess we just respect that everybody is different and that nobody is demanding special treatment here.

No, I am pretty sure I don't take tolerance for pushing something. I also don't think there is anything wrong with LGBTQ events at all.

Its just that I don't see any " straight events " either, so it is kind of giving them a special status, dont you think ? In an equal society there shouldn't even be word about someones sexual orientation as its of no relevance at all.

[Tiberius]

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İlk olarak Wotan tarafından gönderildi:

I don't care about the pride stuff. I am just planning to move to Scandinavia in a few years due to work and such and am informing myself. So it was kind of important for me to know how people there roll. What I see online is a bit off putting sometimes as people seem very hateful towards foreigners.

People don´t dislike foreigners, they usually are well recieved.
The immigrants that come to work and adopt to society are extremely integrated and liked as well.

Welfare immigrants not so much, but that is another story.

When I visited Sweden, most people there did not smile at me, were very cold and hated to talk to me as well. You might call this " distanced ", I call this hateful as normal humans relaise how uncomfortable it makes other people when you straight up ignore them and act emotionelss towards them.

I am an open minded guy who likes to talk and be social with people, in Scandinavia there barely is anyone who likes to engage with foreigners it seems. Not sure what to think of this.

Also, their society seems extremely militarized as women and men serve in the military and foreigners do not, which gives them a huge disadvantage, as they are " not part of it ".

[Shiver]

İlk olarak Wotan tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Shiver tarafından gönderildi:

I dunno. :P

I don't really use social media but I know people put a lot of pride stuff for this month. June is almost over so if you don't like the pride stuff most people will change back soon.

I don't care about the pride stuff. I am just planning to move to Scandinavia in a few years due to work and such and am informing myself. So it was kind of important for me to know how people there roll. What I see online is a bit off putting sometimes as people seem very hateful towards foreigners.

I don't think Scandinavians are hateful towards foreigners. But they can definitely be a bit cold and slow to open up to you. I think it's easier to get along and understand us if you're also European though. It depends a lot where you're moving from.

It's going to be really hard to break out of the separate social bubble as a foreigner regardless especially if you don't learn the language (which can also be hard as Scandinavians will usually try to speak English when they identify you as a non-native speaker because they want to try to accommodate you more easily).

But if you want to know more about moving and living here as a foreigner I don't see what the pride stuff has to do with it really.

[Pierce Dalton]

İlk olarak Wotan tarafından gönderildi:

Do people there really support this stuff or is it another case of " the government is doing it " kind of thing ?

If you're asking this, it means you don't live there. So how do you know these countries are "pushing that stuff so much"?

[Tiberius]

İlk olarak Shiver tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Wotan tarafından gönderildi:

I don't care about the pride stuff. I am just planning to move to Scandinavia in a few years due to work and such and am informing myself. So it was kind of important for me to know how people there roll. What I see online is a bit off putting sometimes as people seem very hateful towards foreigners.

I don't think Scandinavians are hateful towards foreigners. But they can definitely be a bit cold and slow to open up to you. I think it's easier to get along and understand us if you're also European though. It depends a lot where you're moving from.

It's going to be really hard to break out of the separate social bubble as a foreigner regardless especially if you don't learn the language (which can also be hard as Scandinavians will usually try to speak English when they identify you as a non-native speaker because they want to try to accommodate you more easily).

But if you want to know more about moving and living here as a foreigner I don't see what the pride stuff has to do with it really.

I am from Germany and I am learning the language already.

I dont want to live in a country where my child is forced into gender change. Thats all.

İlk olarak Pierce Dalton tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Wotan tarafından gönderildi:

Do people there really support this stuff or is it another case of " the government is doing it " kind of thing ?

If you're asking this, it means you don't live there. So how do you know these countries are "pushing that stuff so much"?

I explained this in my thread and comments.

[Pierce Dalton]

İlk olarak Wotan tarafından gönderildi:

I dont want to live in a country where my child is forced into gender change. Thats all.

Which countries do that?

[Shiver]

İlk olarak Wotan tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak AdahnGorion tarafından gönderildi:

People don´t dislike foreigners, they usually are well recieved.
The immigrants that come to work and adopt to society are extremely integrated and liked as well.

Welfare immigrants not so much, but that is another story.

When I visited Sweden, most people there did not smile at me, were very cold and hated to talk to me as well. You might call this " distanced ", I call this hateful as normal humans relaise how uncomfortable it makes other people when you straight up ignore them and act emotionelss towards them.

I am an open minded guy who likes to talk and be social with people, in Scandinavia there barely is anyone who likes to engage with foreigners it seems. Not sure what to think of this.

Also, their society seems extremely militarized as women and men serve in the military and foreigners do not, which gives them a huge disadvantage, as they are " not part of it ".

I think what you experienced there is a cultural difference but I'm sorry that it makes you feel uncomfortable. In Scandinavia it's just not the norm to approach strangers to talk or to make small talk with them. Our idea of politeness is to keep to ourselves because we don't want to push ourselves on people or be in their way so to speak.

As I said in my other post yeah, most people here definitely are pretty cold initially and can be difficult to break into. We don't purposely do it to be rude though. If this isn't the kind of social culture you like to live in unfortunately it might be pretty isolating for you here and difficult to adjust to.

[AdahnGorion]

İlk olarak Wotan tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak AdahnGorion tarafından gönderildi:

I think you mistake tolerance for pushing.
I´ve never seen LGBT+ events in my scandinavian country and its not something any one speak or talk about either. I guess we just respect that everybody is different and that nobody is demanding special treatment here.

No, I am pretty sure I don't take tolerance for pushing something. I also don't think there is anything wrong with LGBTQ events at all.

Its just that I don't see any " straight events " either, so it is kind of giving them a special status, dont you think ? In an equal society there shouldn't even be word about someones sexual orientation as its of no relevance at all.

There is no "LGBT+" evens where I live, I´ve never seen any..
A few of the largets cities might have a pride event (I guess all large cities in the western world do) but that is basically about it.

Hence why I don´t understand your point.. There is no talk or focus on whatever sexual orientation or sex you are here.. we are just people... All equal as well.

[Tiberius]

İlk olarak Shiver tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Wotan tarafından gönderildi:

When I visited Sweden, most people there did not smile at me, were very cold and hated to talk to me as well. You might call this " distanced ", I call this hateful as normal humans relaise how uncomfortable it makes other people when you straight up ignore them and act emotionelss towards them.

I am an open minded guy who likes to talk and be social with people, in Scandinavia there barely is anyone who likes to engage with foreigners it seems. Not sure what to think of this.

Also, their society seems extremely militarized as women and men serve in the military and foreigners do not, which gives them a huge disadvantage, as they are " not part of it ".

I think what you experienced there is a cultural difference but I'm sorry that it makes you feel uncomfortable. In Scandinavia it's just not the norm to approach strangers to talk or to make small talk with them. Our idea of politeness is to keep to ourselves because we don't want to push ourselves on people or be in their way so to speak.

As I said in my other post yeah, most people here definitely are pretty cold initially and can be difficult to break into. We don't purposely do it to be rude though. If this isn't the kind of social culture you like to live in unfortunately it might be pretty isolating for you here and difficult to adjust to.

Here only people in the village are like this, hence its next to impossible to find friends or have social life on villages here.

Meh, maybe I only have to stay there a few years for work and can move somewhere I am welcome.

[Shiver]

İlk olarak Wotan tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Shiver tarafından gönderildi:

I think what you experienced there is a cultural difference but I'm sorry that it makes you feel uncomfortable. In Scandinavia it's just not the norm to approach strangers to talk or to make small talk with them. Our idea of politeness is to keep to ourselves because we don't want to push ourselves on people or be in their way so to speak.

As I said in my other post yeah, most people here definitely are pretty cold initially and can be difficult to break into. We don't purposely do it to be rude though. If this isn't the kind of social culture you like to live in unfortunately it might be pretty isolating for you here and difficult to adjust to.

Here only people in the village are like this, hence its next to impossible to find friends or have social life on villages here.

Meh, maybe I only have to stay there a few years for work and can move somewhere I am welcome.

It's definitely not for everybody. I hope you can find a good place though.

[AdahnGorion]

İlk olarak Wotan tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak AdahnGorion tarafından gönderildi:

People don´t dislike foreigners, they usually are well recieved.
The immigrants that come to work and adopt to society are extremely integrated and liked as well.

Welfare immigrants not so much, but that is another story.

When I visited Sweden, most people there did not smile at me, were very cold and hated to talk to me as well. You might call this " distanced ", I call this hateful as normal humans relaise how uncomfortable it makes other people when you straight up ignore them and act emotionelss towards them.

I am an open minded guy who likes to talk and be social with people, in Scandinavia there barely is anyone who likes to engage with foreigners it seems. Not sure what to think of this.

Also, their society seems extremely militarized as women and men serve in the military and foreigners do not, which gives them a huge disadvantage, as they are " not part of it ".

That is normal, we don´t tend to engage with anyone outside of our sphere, unless we have to (we are polite when ie. shopping or whatever)
But we kinda keep to ourselves and don´t go around talking to everybody on the street.

If you want to be social here, you have to go to places that "indicates" that. ie. joining a hobby, doing a study, etc.. there you will see more openness.
Basically people need to "know you abit" before they will start going full talk mode.. albeit if you ask politely about something, most people will help you.. Ie. if someone needs guiding in the city, I would stop up and help them.

[Drimon]

Dont believe anything you See in the Internet lol.

[Tiberius]

İlk olarak AdahnGorion tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Wotan tarafından gönderildi:

When I visited Sweden, most people there did not smile at me, were very cold and hated to talk to me as well. You might call this " distanced ", I call this hateful as normal humans relaise how uncomfortable it makes other people when you straight up ignore them and act emotionelss towards them.

I am an open minded guy who likes to talk and be social with people, in Scandinavia there barely is anyone who likes to engage with foreigners it seems. Not sure what to think of this.

Also, their society seems extremely militarized as women and men serve in the military and foreigners do not, which gives them a huge disadvantage, as they are " not part of it ".

That is normal, we don´t tend to engage with anyone outside of our sphere, unless we have to (we are polite when ie. shopping or whatever)
But we kinda keep to ourselves and don´t go around talking to everybody on the street.

If you want to be social here, you have to go to places that "indicates" that. ie. joining a hobby, doing a study, etc.. there you will see more openness.
Basically people need to "know you abit" before they will start going full talk mode.. albeit if you ask politely about something, most people will help you.. Ie. if someone needs guiding in the city, I would stop up and help them.

I also dont randomly talk to strangers, this is about people I worked with and actually engaged with on a daily basis, not some random strangers.

[Yavin Shikanoko]

my man scared of the gays

[Tiberius]

İlk olarak Mahoutsukai Yavin tarafından gönderildi:

my man scared of the gays

I am not. Some of my favourite people are gay.