As an adult, how do you deal with random rowdy and obnoxious and hostile/violent teenagers?

[Iggy Wolf]

I mean, as far as said teenagers, who may or may not actually be 18 years or older, so still potentially considered "adults" though, but who might threaten to fight you or are trying to pick a fight and provoke and antagonize you? I ask cause it seems like as an adult, I know what I'm supposed to do in order to avoid the fight and getting myself arrested (since they would likely sooner arrest me than the little ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥), but I do wonder what happens if they decide to throw hands or actually get violent?

I couldn't even dance on the boardwalk in a quiet spot in peace today without a bunch of obnoxious ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trying to pick a fight with me and telling me to get the ♥♥♥♥ out of there. Was NOT going to get involved with these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and end up with a record because a bunch of juveniles wanted to act tough and talk ♥♥♥♥.

[Tiberius]

Iggy Wolf님이 먼저 게시:

I mean, as far as said teenagers, who may or may not actually be 18 years or older, so still potentially considered "adults" though, but who might threaten to fight you or are trying to pick a fight and provoke and antagonize you? I ask cause it seems like as an adult, I know what I'm supposed to do in order to avoid the fight and getting myself arrested (since they would likely sooner arrest me than the little ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥), but I do wonder what happens if they decide to throw hands or actually get violent?

I couldn't even dance on the boardwalk in a quiet spot in peace today without a bunch of obnoxious ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trying to pick a fight with me and telling me to get the ♥♥♥♥ out of there. Was NOT going to get involved with these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and end up with a record because a bunch of juveniles wanted to act tough and talk ♥♥♥♥.

I BEAT THE ♥♥♥♥ OUT OF THEM WITH MY BASEBALL BAT AND PISS IN THEIR EYES

[Oyun Arşivim]

Iggy Wolf님이 먼저 게시:

I mean, as far as said teenagers, who may or may not actually be 18 years or older, so still potentially considered "adults" though, but who might threaten to fight you or are trying to pick a fight and provoke and antagonize you? I ask cause it seems like as an adult, I know what I'm supposed to do in order to avoid the fight and getting myself arrested (since they would likely sooner arrest me than the little ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥), but I do wonder what happens if they decide to throw hands or actually get violent?

I couldn't even dance on the boardwalk in a quiet spot in peace today without a bunch of obnoxious ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trying to pick a fight with me and telling me to get the ♥♥♥♥ out of there. Was NOT going to get involved with these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and end up with a record because a bunch of juveniles wanted to act tough and talk ♥♥♥♥.

Is this in a video game?

You are no adult if you can't control/beat/destroy teenagers.
If you are 70, where is your children? They will help you.
If you are a woman, call the police, world is simp woke, they will help you.
If you are a man, you don't ask questions, MEN don't need help from random online forums about teenagers.
If you want a solution, for one time only i will help you.
Teens are easy to trigger, press record button and talk back to them, call them to fight, your friend will record you getting attacked. After that point it's self defence, one man defending himself against young criminals.

''but I do wonder what happens if they decide to throw hands or actually get violent? ''
You don't know what will happen? Hit the gym. stop gaming. or dancing, choose something.

[brain stew]

Infiltrate the rapscallion's gang and assert dominance as their new leader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMin0i_h8PI

[Vince ✟]

I'm a pacifist so it's a matter of interpreting the situation and controlling it in such a way as that it doesn't enter into violence. Avoidance is king.

It can range from anything such as humor, humbleness, bravery, courage, humility, respect, or even manipulation through resources available, such as money, food, the shirt off my back.

Violence is the last resort, and when used, is only in moderation so as to escape a situation. Unless death is imminent, my previous combat service and years of training are not to be employed.

[bythelee]

Teach them a lesson
learn martial arts get some tool for defence

Why do you go to places where you experience this?

[Painkilleruk]

Apart from most in my city knowing not to mess with me.
You play who is the bigger psychopath, they think they are hard, think they are strong in little groups. Humiliate them, if they want to fight just use least force possible. If they take out a knife its fair game. Should thrown them off the boardwalk

[Iggy Wolf]

Oyun Arşivim님이 먼저 게시:

Iggy Wolf님이 먼저 게시:

I mean, as far as said teenagers, who may or may not actually be 18 years or older, so still potentially considered "adults" though, but who might threaten to fight you or are trying to pick a fight and provoke and antagonize you? I ask cause it seems like as an adult, I know what I'm supposed to do in order to avoid the fight and getting myself arrested (since they would likely sooner arrest me than the little ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥), but I do wonder what happens if they decide to throw hands or actually get violent?

I couldn't even dance on the boardwalk in a quiet spot in peace today without a bunch of obnoxious ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trying to pick a fight with me and telling me to get the ♥♥♥♥ out of there. Was NOT going to get involved with these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and end up with a record because a bunch of juveniles wanted to act tough and talk ♥♥♥♥.

Is this in a video game?

You are no adult if you can't control/beat/destroy teenagers.
If you are 70, where is your children? They will help you.
If you are a woman, call the police, world is simp woke, they will help you.
If you are a man, you don't ask questions, MEN don't need help from random online forums about teenagers.
If you want a solution, for one time only i will help you.
Teens are easy to trigger, press record button and talk back to them, call them to fight, your friend will record you getting attacked. After that point it's self defence, one man defending himself against young criminals.

''but I do wonder what happens if they decide to throw hands or actually get violent? ''
You don't know what will happen? Hit the gym. stop gaming. or dancing, choose something.

Why would I stop doing something just because a bunch of random teenagers decided to act tough? Do people stop playing baseball or volleyball just because a random bunch of teens decide to act uppity?

[Oyun Arşivim]

You came here. Said you are getting bullied. You said help me. Im helping you. Focus.
Im not your god, i didnt write rules. Simply saying. Choose one option. Remember you came here complaining. Dont lose your focus. Im not telling you would or should do anything. Dgaf here.

[Morkonan]

Iggy Wolf님이 먼저 게시:

No, it doesn't. That's why it annoyed me so much. I actually explicitly stopped at the moment so they could pass by. In fact, I was considering simply taking a rest. It's the fact that they continued to harass me that pissed me off. Since at that point, they chose to actively provoke me rather than simply go about their way and their own business.

They provoked you and ticked you off?

OK, let's look at it from another perspective in order to try to understand the situation that contributed to the problem. (Or not. You don't "have to" do anything, here.)

From their point of view, considering they are likely children, your dancing in a public space could be seen as "provocative." If you're dancing in public, it's usually "performance art." But, that's usually pretty formalized, with the dancing clearly being done for the spectators.

Here, you're just... dancing in public. That's pretty strange. And, you point out that you're apparently doing this in some kind of more secluded spot? Sort of like carving out your space for your own recreational dance session?

Most people could reason out why someone might wish to perform some Yoga outside in a nice natural setting. OK, that's not terribly weird, right? People do it at a park, so that can translate to other, similar, public spaces fairly well.

A group of people, or even just one, might engage in simple Tai Chi exercises, right? We've all seen the clips of synchronized Tai Chi exercises out in public spaces in certain Far Eastern countries, so at least it's not terribly weird.

But... public dancing for oneself, without a partner to just goof around with or some obvious performative reason... is weird. Just... breaking out into dance in a public space as a focused, personal, activity? That's strange behavior.

Strange behavior is "provocative." People will notice it. People will focus on it and attempt to reason it out in order to make a judgement about it and to decide what it means, if they should be concerned, what the state of mind is of the person exhibiting the behavior is...

See?

So, it's weird. It's "strange." It's doing something common, but in a very strange way. If you were peeling potatoes at a Taylor Swift concert, would it be wrong for people to think that is strange, weird, potentially... provocative?


I'm not victim-blaming, I'm problem-solving. You mixed "weird" with a subculture of half-formed minds that are going to be instantly attracted and... provoked by it. Was it wrong of them? Yup. Was it a bad decision on your part? Maybe...

You got a somewhat expected reaction, I imagine. But, what actually happened and how isn't detailed in your posts.

You should probably choose a different venue for that activity if you wish to avoid people questioning it and certain people from making fun of it.


Though, have you considered doing it with others?

There's nothing stopping you from "normalizing" that behavior by gathering other people fond of dancing to join you. If, for example, there were more people with you, dancing and doing their thing, then it's easier to rationalize as a somewhat weird thing, but "OK" since its a group doing it. :)

Put together a "Public Dance Therapy" group. Hand out fliers, set times, bring punch and pie... and you may find a more positive response from onlookers.

[Iggy Wolf]

Morkonan님이 먼저 게시:

Iggy Wolf님이 먼저 게시:

No, it doesn't. That's why it annoyed me so much. I actually explicitly stopped at the moment so they could pass by. In fact, I was considering simply taking a rest. It's the fact that they continued to harass me that pissed me off. Since at that point, they chose to actively provoke me rather than simply go about their way and their own business.

They provoked you and ticked you off?

OK, let's look at it from another perspective in order to try to understand the situation that contributed to the problem. (Or not. You don't "have to" do anything, here.)

From their point of view, considering they are likely children, your dancing in a public space could be seen as "provocative." If you're dancing in public, it's usually "performance art." But, that's usually pretty formalized, with the dancing clearly being done for the spectators.

Here, you're just... dancing in public. That's pretty strange. And, you point out that you're apparently doing this in some kind of more secluded spot? Sort of like carving out your space for your own recreational dance session?

Most people could reason out why someone might wish to perform some Yoga outside in a nice natural setting. OK, that's not terribly weird, right? People do it at a park, so that can translate to other, similar, public spaces fairly well.

A group of people, or even just one, might engage in simple Tai Chi exercises, right? We've all seen the clips of synchronized Tai Chi exercises out in public spaces in certain Far Eastern countries, so at least it's not terribly weird.

But... public dancing for oneself, without a partner to just goof around with or some obvious performative reason... is weird. Just... breaking out into dance in a public space as a focused, personal, activity? That's strange behavior.

Strange behavior is "provocative." People will notice it. People will focus on it and attempt to reason it out in order to make a judgement about it and to decide what it means, if they should be concerned, what the state of mind is of the person exhibiting the behavior is...

See?

So, it's weird. It's "strange." It's doing something common, but in a very strange way. If you were peeling potatoes at a Taylor Swift concert, would it be wrong for people to think that is strange, weird, potentially... provocative?


I'm not victim-blaming, I'm problem-solving. You mixed "weird" with a subculture of half-formed minds that are going to be instantly attracted and... provoked by it. Was it wrong of them? Yup. Was it a bad decision on your part? Maybe...

You got a somewhat expected reaction, I imagine. But, what actually happened and how isn't detailed in your posts.

You should probably choose a different venue for that activity if you wish to avoid people questioning it and certain people from making fun of it.


Though, have you considered doing it with others?

There's nothing stopping you from "normalizing" that behavior by gathering other people fond of dancing to join you. If, for example, there were more people with you, dancing and doing their thing, then it's easier to rationalize as a somewhat weird thing, but "OK" since its a group doing it. :)

Put together a "Public Dance Therapy" group. Hand out fliers, set times, bring punch and pie... and you may find a more positive response from onlookers.

Who gets to define what's "strange behavior"? Do you think people dancing in NYC subways or on streets is "strange"? It's quite a common spectacle in large urban cities. Especially when it's cultural. I did it for myself. I don't need a justification. But even more so, it's NO EXCUSE for any random strangers to get up in my face.

Public spaces does NOT mean people are allowed to invade our PRIVATE space. Me, and the 6 foot circle around me. I wasn't breaking any laws or rules. And that's all that matters. Why I do what I do is MY business and NO ONE else's. In relation to the rest of your post, sadly, there aren't too many other dancers in my area.

I'd love to be able to have a cypher going and have others join in. There was at least one teen who actually wanted me to legitimately show her some moves that she could learn. So it wasn't a negative reception by everybody.

[76561199099449901]

Depends how threatening they are? So far giving them no attention whatsoever, walking straight past / through them has worked.

[Grendalcat]

I stare at anyone, of any age, who seems to be threatening. So far that has worked.
Well one time in Sears I picked up an axe handle to approach two individuals who had been following us throughout the mall. They left immediately.

[Ulfrinn]

Imagine getting beat up by kids... Getting kicked in the shin and having my hair pulled would hurt for a little bit I guess. I think being called a big doodie head would hurt the most though.

[Morkonan]

Iggy Wolf님이 먼저 게시:

Who gets to define what's "strange behavior"? Do you think people dancing in NYC subways or on streets is "strange"? It's quite a common spectacle in large urban cities. Especially when it's cultural. I did it for myself. I don't need a justification. But even more so, it's NO EXCUSE for any random strangers to get up in my face.

I am not saying their reaction was justified.

I am attempting to try to understand why they could have reacted that way in order to "solve the problem."

Public spaces does NOT mean people are allowed to invade our PRIVATE space. Me, and the 6 foot circle around me. I wasn't breaking any laws or rules. And that's all that matters. Why I do what I do is MY business and NO ONE else's.

Uh... it's a "Public Space" first. Your private space is something you're putting inside that Public Space. That Public Space does not belong to only you. That "Private Space," though, is defined only when it comes down to infringing upon your personal self in some way when you're in a Public Space.

You are not allowed certain forms of "Privacy" in a Public Space. You can not just walk in and assume that you are and that you can then do as you wish - Those other people have to be allowed to share that "Public Space."

I'm not saying that anyone is justified when they insult you or harass you or whatever... I'm just trying to peel apart the layers here in order to find a solution.

But, you're declaring that what you were doing in a Public Space was "no one else's" business. That is directly the opposite of what a "Public Space" is...


Can you see the incongruity between your intent and what you expected to receive from engaging with it and your choice of venue?

[Insomniac Jack]

Grendalcat님이 먼저 게시:

I stare at anyone, of any age, who seems to be threatening. So far that has worked.

Ah yes, I sure love getting into staredowns with babies. Gotta establish dominance for their mother's milk.