Why so gatekeeping?

[Asgradow]

We need to start gatekeeping gaming again. We need to find a way stop Woke and get rid of it, so we can gatekeep PC gaming community better.

Let this thread to be a roadmap how to do so. Any suggestion that will help achieving this goal is welcome.

[Crazy Tiger]

No, we don't. Not liking something doesn't mean other people share that, nor does it mean those people shouldn't be able to get the stuff *they* like.

Just buy the stuff you like and ignore the rest. You know, as mature adults do.

[Zarineth]

People can also realise, that not all games are designed to please them and that others might like different things. Instead of going on a crusade whenever a game is not up to their tastes.

[The nameless Gamer]

I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but I'll say it again: the "culture war" is a storm in a teacup. There are ten thousands of unaffected games. Games "ruined" by so-called "DEI" are a pathetic handful.

[Asgradow]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

No, we don't. Not liking something doesn't mean other people share that, nor does it mean those people shouldn't be able to get the stuff *they* like.

Just buy the stuff you like and ignore the rest. You know, as mature adults do.

I was thinking just like you! "Hey, one gay character in my video game will change nothing"....
Look where are we now 15 years later... there isn't mass entertainment media (movies, music, books, games, TV) that doesn't include some DEI propaganda... The world is going to hell and we are actively helping the people plotting against us - WHY?

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Just ignore all of it

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by Asgradow:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

No, we don't. Not liking something doesn't mean other people share that, nor does it mean those people shouldn't be able to get the stuff *they* like.

Just buy the stuff you like and ignore the rest. You know, as mature adults do.

I was thinking just like you! "Hey, one gay character in my video game will change nothing"....
Look where are we now 15 years later... there isn't mass entertainment media (movies, music, books, games, TV) that doesn't include some DEI propaganda... The world is going to hell and we are actively helping the people plotting against us - WHY?

I don't see the problem with gay characters in video games. Or whatever windmills people want to fight.

And who is this "us"? What are they "plotting"?

The irony is that you're talking about propaganda from one side, when you're exhibiting that you're the other side of the same coin. Quite funny.

I've been gaming for 35+ years now, people always want to make up issues in the gaming industry. They never actually were issues, though.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by Asgradow:

I was thinking just like you! "Hey, one gay character in my video game will change nothing"....
Look where are we now 15 years later... there isn't mass entertainment media (movies, music, books, games, TV) that doesn't include some DEI propaganda... The world is going to hell and we are actively helping the people plotting against us - WHY?

I don't see the problem with gay characters in video games. Or whatever windmills people want to fight.

And who is this "us"? What are they "plotting"?

The irony is that you're talking about propaganda from one side, when you're exhibiting that you're the other side of the same coin. Quite funny.

I've been gaming for 35+ years now, people always want to make up issues in the gaming industry. They never actually were issues, though.

I just wish they'd make their own games and stop wrecking loved franchises.. I know of at least three games due out i will ignore now over these agendas..

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

I don't see the problem with gay characters in video games. Or whatever windmills people want to fight.

And who is this "us"? What are they "plotting"?

The irony is that you're talking about propaganda from one side, when you're exhibiting that you're the other side of the same coin. Quite funny.

I've been gaming for 35+ years now, people always want to make up issues in the gaming industry. They never actually were issues, though.

I just wish they'd make their own games and stop wrecking loved franchises..

What about the people who want such stuff in existing franchises? Yes, they exist as well.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

I just wish they'd make their own games and stop wrecking loved franchises..

What about the people who want such stuff in existing franchises? Yes, they exist as well.

I'm sure they do but they are minorities.. Also why now why destroy what others grew up with and loved..

[Asgradow]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by Asgradow:

I was thinking just like you! "Hey, one gay character in my video game will change nothing"....
Look where are we now 15 years later... there isn't mass entertainment media (movies, music, books, games, TV) that doesn't include some DEI propaganda... The world is going to hell and we are actively helping the people plotting against us - WHY?

I don't see the problem with gay characters in video games. Or whatever windmills people want to fight.

And who is this "us"? What are they "plotting"?

The irony is that you're talking about propaganda from one side, when you're exhibiting that you're the other side of the same coin. Quite funny.

I've been gaming for 35+ years now, people always want to make up issues in the gaming industry. They never actually were issues, though.

I have told you, I was thinking the same way. The problem are not gay characters. I don't mind LGBT have their own corner of video games industry. The problem is they have the whole F***ing industry. If you deny this - you are blind!
15 years ago you could rarely see LGBT and POC characters in video games, now you could rarely see white, hetero male characters in video games...
What is the problem? The problem is video games audiences are 80% white, hetero males[1] and now they want us to be pushed out of gaming - THIS IS THE PROBLEM!

[1] - https://captown.capcom.com/en/super_elections/1

[The nameless Gamer]

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

What about the people who want such stuff in existing franchises? Yes, they exist as well.

I'm sure they do but they are minorities.. Also why now why destroy what others grew up with and loved..

Which games have been "destroyed" recently?

I mean, if you want to "destroy" a game, the most reliable way is to mess with the core gameplay, just look at what happened to Command & Conquer after Kane's Wrath and Dawn of War after II - Retribution. "Destruction" of games has nothing to do with throwing in new characters which are not liked by certain people for one reason or another.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Asgradow:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

I don't see the problem with gay characters in video games. Or whatever windmills people want to fight.

And who is this "us"? What are they "plotting"?

The irony is that you're talking about propaganda from one side, when you're exhibiting that you're the other side of the same coin. Quite funny.

I've been gaming for 35+ years now, people always want to make up issues in the gaming industry. They never actually were issues, though.

I have told you, I was thinking the same way. The problem are not gay characters. I don't mind LGBT have their own corner of video games industry. The problem is they have the whole F***ing industry. If you deny this - you are blind!
15 years ago you could rarely see LGBT and POC characters in video games, now you could rarely see white, hetero male characters in video games...
What is the problem? The problem is video games audiences are 80% white, hetero males[1] and now they want us to be pushed out of gaming - THIS IS THE PROBLEM!

[1] - https://captown.capcom.com/en/super_elections/1

Unique and attractive characters 32,570 votes

Heh, well that's going to annoy Sweet Baby Inc..

Originally posted by The nameless Commander:

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

I'm sure they do but they are minorities.. Also why now why destroy what others grew up with and loved..

Which games have been "destroyed" recently?

I mean, if you want to "destroy" a game, the most reliable way is to mess with the core gameplay, just look at what happened to Command & Conquer after Kane's Wrath and Dawn of War after II - Retribution. "Destruction" of games has nothing to do with throwing in new characters which are not liked by certain people for one reason or another.

Horizon Zero Dawn Forbidden West
Forspoken
Flintlock
Dragon Age Veilguard
Avowed
Capes
Redfall
Last of Us 2
Starfield
Saints Row Reboot
Dragon Age Inquisition
Mass Effect Andromeda
Suicide Squad
Gothem Knights
Spiderman 2
Alan Wake 2
Dune

Just off the top of my head...

Immortals of Aveum
Marvel Avengers
Baldur's Gate 3

[Dura_Ace]

It is called voting with your wallet.

Dont like what a company is doing? Dont buy it.

Blizzard/activism/World of Warcraft is selling early access in their up and coming expansion. They have never sold early access before. This is a game where some guilds compete for the honor of killing a boss first.

So this selling of early access goes against the spirit of the game.

I will not be playing this expansion. I am voting with my wallet. I think selling early access for 90 dollars is a greedy money grabbing move and it stinks.

Microsft who bought blizzard for an absurd 67.5 Billion dollars now needs to start getting that money back. So they are taking it back from the players one way or another. Want to play the expansion and not be left behind? Pay up or get left behind. Scummy move.

I wont be playing world of warcraft anymore

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Dura_Ace:

It is called voting with your wallet.

Dont like what a company is doing? Dont buy it.

Blizzard/activism/World of Warcraft is selling early access in their up and coming expansion. They have never sold early access before. This is a game where some guilds compete for the honor of killing a boss first.

So this selling of early access goes against the spirit of the game.

I will not be playing this expansion. I am voting with my wallet. I think selling early access for 90 dollars is a greedy money grabbing move and it stinks.

Microsft who bought blizzard for an absurd 67.5 Billion dollars now needs to start getting that money back. So they are taking it back from the players one way or another. Want to play the expansion and not be left behind? Pay up or get left behind. Scummy move.

I wont be playing world of warcraft anymore

I've started doing that this year either wait till games are like 80% off or avoid them completely.

[The nameless Gamer]

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

Horizon Zero Dawn Forbidden West
Forspoken
Flintlock
Dragon Age Veilguard
Avowed
Capes
Redfall
Last of Us 2
Starfield
Saints Row Reboot
Dragon Age Inquisition
Mass Effect Andromeda
Suicide Squad
Gothem Knights
Spiderman 2
Alan Wake 2
Dune

Just off the top of my head...

AFAIK, Forspoken didn't really need much "destroying" given how empty its world is and how poorly written the scripts are. Also, that's not a franchise. Dragon Age was always including themes of racial discrimination (aren't Elves treated like second-class citizens in the first one?). Last of Us 2 is also more a victim of bad character decisions. Ellie goes on a quest for revenge, loses everything on her path, doesn't exact revenge, making the entire game MOOT and POINTLESS. Mass Effect Andromeda, I heard it had general visual design problems. Suicide Squad is grindy and bland, not much "destruction" needed. I'm no fan of superhero stuff, so I have zero information on Spiderman II and GK. Same goes for Alan Wake 2, I can't handle horror games. Which Dune are you referring to? Spice Wars? The negative reviews are talking about pacing and gameplay issues but the game still has a 79% positive review rating. Doesn't look "destroyed" to me.