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LOKKD (Banido(a)) 22/abr./2024 às 5:19
Is attack on titan a reference to the situation in Israel/palestine?
Then it's sad.
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permanent name 22/abr./2024 às 9:22 
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i mean they went out of their way to portray both cities as psuedo-English, despite very obviously being Japan's high and low societies.

infact it's significantly more English than American. I think Japan tends to view the US as an extension of English power, owing to England's continued cultural attacks and the US' vague indifference as a fellow English pawn?
i mean tbh i can see both nations as a allegory for several different irl countries and peoples. Im not entirely sure of the authors intent, but i finally decided just to take the story at face value as a work of fiction about giant monsters.

the author's intent was explicitly to address the emperor situation, and the government literally stepped in and altered the narrative in ways designed to make people write it off.

it's fairly common there, such as with metal gear solid 5 or Drakengaard.
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talemore 22/abr./2024 às 9:33 
It's a reference about the tower of Babel.

Babel was destroyed by sin and greed
talemore 22/abr./2024 às 9:35 
The giants are hungry and destroys the tower of Babel.

The citizens trying to survive as the giants become hungry and demand more food and sacrifices and worshipping.

What we assume to know is that Sin was a god in Babel and it was the sin of the people who destroyed Babel. The giants are kings who want more power.
permanent name 22/abr./2024 às 9:43 
Babel narratives in Japan are universally about the corruption of the language and the revision of its history.

The government typically alters narratives to change the focus of the Babel metaphor into a literal space elevator, in order to suggest that nothing is legitimate and their usurpation of power is as legitimate as any other.

Titan addresses this tendency directly, I believe, without relying on the Titan metaphors. Which are pretty transparent Corporate allegories, imo.
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talemore 22/abr./2024 às 9:49 
https://youtu.be/ULKAieLf0oY?si=9Xl4j_XO4OWpc8KV
Other versions says that the giants build the tower and was scattered across the land as punishment as it angered the people above who considered themselves as gods.

But the theme is always that it is about kings who want more power and people who create civilization. The giants as such the builders of the civilization with big hands and the kings who want to keep the tower of Babel for themselves.

If it's Gaia the creator of the sky and the universe who want to punish them for reaching heaven or the giants who are punished for building a tower to heaven where the inhabitants are keeping the giants away to ensure they stay in power.
permanent name 22/abr./2024 às 9:52 
aot presents the titans as conceptual strivings that certain individuals receive the blessings or enfranchisement of; typically through consumption.

it's a transparent allegory for corporate mergers and hostile takeovers, and the reality that Japan is owned by Corporations. not People.

in essence you incorporate and this makes you a giant; a living king, free to eat up all the little people.

the historical intersection of Japan's power cults and cannibalism is front and center here.
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vkobe 22/abr./2024 às 15:02 
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Is attack on titan a reference to the situation in Israel/palestine?

what date did 'attack on titan' start being written

and what date did 'war in israel' start?
1948
xDDD 22/abr./2024 às 15:11 
No way man.

Although there are absolutely parallels to be drawn between Eldians and Jews, from them being chosen by the god all the way to them wearing star armbands and being thrown in ghettos/internment camps. Also The Rumbling is kind of like the Samson Option where they have a last resort to inflict damage and destruction upon their enemies.
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Am I having an epileptic seizure or did bro actually speak, and completely fail at making any sort of sense.
I believe you may also have Psychosis if you heard his text speak my good sir!
Caldari Ghost 22/abr./2024 às 15:12 
Its a deep metaphorical allegory for life lessons and stuff
Duck Twacy 22/abr./2024 às 15:17 
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Then it's sad.
No.
permanent name 22/abr./2024 às 16:00 
they chose the stars specifically because it could be anything from the stars and stripes to the union jack to turkey to palestine to the black star constellation cult which influenced politics heavily in the 18th and 19th centuries in japan and various regions throughout southeast asia.

there are several other works they induced star imagery into while compromising them, the star-shaped scar that Scar has in FMA for example, the government stepping in around the winter fortress arc because of Mira's resemblance to various individuals as well as Pride's, and the roles they were originally plotted to play in the narrative. shortly afterwards Scar has a star-shaped scar now.

chosen by god narratives are similar; there's even a passage in Tale of Genji where they make fun of such story conceits. anyone could be chosen by god, as far as the people know, so it's a specious thing for anyone to claim and inherently untrustworthy as a concept.

iirc the eidolons aren't 'chosen by gods' perse either; they've simply co-opted the natural world for their own. another major propaganda point favored by the current government, and one that was the central focus of Mononoke and ultimately the reason miyazaki stopped making good films.
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Goblin 22/abr./2024 às 16:45 
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