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Akboris 21/abr./2024 às 11:01
Do right wing/conservative (mainstream) video games even exist?
Ive noticed that seemingly every video game to ever make it big and generate enough to create a whole franchise of games, and hell, even most one off games to see a full release, parrot left wing talking points and themes and agendas beneath the surface (with varying quality of writing of course), why does it seem like genuinely conservative video games, as in, created by or at least with the intent of supporting conservatives or right wing ideals, basically dont exist?

This is also funny given just how much pressure certain groups place on the industry to parrot specific ideals and agendas, given that the industry almost already support them.
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Akboris 21/abr./2024 às 12:31 
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Nobody sets out to make games with political statements. The issue is that the right wing has been turning common human decency political over the last 5 decades

Oh look at all the people being "woke" by being nice to people or wanting to defeat the people who aren't nice to people. Blame the politicians you follow for making your hobbies un-enjoyable.


Edit for those who can't follow context.

I'm responding to the op who said "parrot left wing talking points and themes and agendas"

Before all those political jargon words existed it was all just people being nice which is what a lot of the ♥♥♥♥ right wing people are pushing as some sort of terrible agenda! How dare people be nice!

All of the games worth a damn are already left wing, and they have been for decades. Right wingers have been enjoying these games, if there is suddenly a pushback against progressivist politics in games when there previously were not, then there might be a reason for it. This also seems to correlate with a observation that a lot of the high budget games to release in the past few years have been abysmal.
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Chunk Norris ☯ 21/abr./2024 às 12:32 
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Actually most videos are centered around right-wing cultures, even if they parrot left-wing talking points.

Take "weapon" culture. I was going to say gun culture but I realized that it really boils down to "weapon" culture given we're seeing left-wing places like the UK not only ban most guns, but long-knives or swords.

And given that right-wing culture operates on the freedom of the individual to own swords, knives and guns.

How many games out there have an underlying right-wing theme, because the absence of that right-wing theme would make a poor video game. Imagine the assassins Creed games without swords...or a Call of Duty game without a gun?


Now we do see reflections of left-wingers. Left-wingers want to disarm the populations and leave people defenseless...we see that theme all the time. And I'm not just talking about blue cities allowing massive crime sprees or doing cashless bail supporting criminal behavior...but in video games how often does the bad guy disarm innocent people who need the hero to save the day?
Usually the hero uses lots of guns or some type of weapon to save these people.
Guns aren't inherently "right wing". The Soviet Union used to teach school kids about firearms and Communist/Socialist countries have always glorified the military......
Free access to guns/weapons is right-wing. Heavily restricting who can own a gun and which type of gun is typically left-wing perspective.

And of course there's always going to be outliers but that doesn't change the fact that the majority of left-wingers support heavy gun/weapon restrictions.
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Do right wing/conservative (mainstream) video games even exist?

IDK, maybe the entire Warhammer / 40k franchise(s).
Akboris 21/abr./2024 às 12:33 
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Aren't most FPSes basically right wing masturbation fantasies of one man with a gun fixing everything that is wrong with the world? (within the limited single route corridor they get to run along in that particular game)

Not sure, I think maybe some of those cookie cutter FPS games from the mid to late 2000s perhaps. DOOM also has some subtle social commentary on left wing political correctness I believe, but im not certain.
76561199652807642 21/abr./2024 às 12:34 
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Aren't most FPSes basically right wing masturbation fantasies of one man with a gun fixing everything that is wrong with the world? (within the limited single route corridor they get to run along in that particular game)

That's not a bad point. Except for that last statement, idk what that is about.
Arvaos 21/abr./2024 às 12:34 
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Metal Gear Solid is on the left side of politics.

https://youtu.be/MiOjxRvBCBU?si=SW8scjDVfqhoBm_b
Do left-wingers want to ban guns?

There are very few countries in the world that have the right to bear arms.

Only three countries in the world currently have a constitutional right to own a gun.
Haiku's Knife 21/abr./2024 às 12:34 
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All of the games worth a damn are already left wing, and they have been for decades. Right wingers have been enjoying these games, if there is suddenly a pushback against progressivist politics in games when there previously were not, then there might be a reason for it.
I don't even understand the pushback, though. Why should I care if a game is "woke"? All I care is if it's a good game and is worth my time. Game quality > politics. Everybody should be able to express themselves and create are that reflects who they are. If you don't like, then don't play it.
B 21/abr./2024 às 12:35 
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Nobody sets out to make games with political statements. The issue is that the right wing has been turning common human decency political over the last 5 decades

Oh look at all the people being "woke" by being nice to people or wanting to defeat the people who aren't nice to people. Blame the politicians you follow for making your hobbies un-enjoyable.


Edit for those who can't follow context.

I'm responding to the op who said "parrot left wing talking points and themes and agendas"

Before all those political jargon words existed it was all just people being nice which is what a lot of the ♥♥♥♥ right wing people are pushing as some sort of terrible agenda! How dare people be nice!

All of the games worth a damn are already left wing, and they have been for decades. Right wingers have been enjoying these games, if there is suddenly a pushback against progressivist politics in games when there previously were not, then there might be a reason for it. This also seems to correlate with a observation that a lot of the high budget games to release in the past few years have been abysmal.

Naw man. It's the right who have edged themselves out of being able to enjoy anything.

Games will still be here when they decide they want to enjoy life more than they want to belong to an online right wing fan club.
76561199652807642 21/abr./2024 às 12:35 
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All of the games worth a damn are already left wing, and they have been for decades. Right wingers have been enjoying these games, if there is suddenly a pushback against progressivist politics in games when there previously were not, then there might be a reason for it.
I don't even understand the pushback, though. Why should I care if a game is "woke"? All I care is if it's a good game and is worth my time. Game quality > politics. Everybody should be able to express themselves and create are that reflects who they are. If you don't like, then don't play it.

Because woke games are not good and are not worth your time
76561199572171423 21/abr./2024 às 12:36 
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Metal Gear Solid is on the left side of politics.

https://youtu.be/MiOjxRvBCBU?si=SW8scjDVfqhoBm_b
Do left-wingers want to ban guns?
absolutely, they only want the police to have guns. But also hate the police because they are fascist and racist. It a conundrum really
B 21/abr./2024 às 12:36 
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Do right wing/conservative (mainstream) video games even exist?

IDK, maybe the entire Warhammer / 40k franchise(s).

Apparently women now exist in that game so it's too woke. ffs
Boblin the Goblin 21/abr./2024 às 12:37 
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So the developers of Disco Elysium didn't set out to make a political statement?

I'm responding to the op who said "parrot left wing talking points and themes and agendas"

Before all those political jargon words existed it was all just people being nice which is what a lot of the woke right wing people are pushing as some sort of terrible agenda! How dare people be nice!
Wait.

Do you honestly believe that?
Chunk Norris ☯ 21/abr./2024 às 12:37 
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Aren't most FPSes basically right wing masturbation fantasies of one man with a gun fixing everything that is wrong with the world? (within the limited single route corridor they get to run along in that particular game)
Exactly.

Reminds me of the game Subnautica

https://store.steampowered.com/app/264710/Subnautica/

This is a game that intentionally didn't put guns into the game because of their left-wing stance on guns. And they incorporated it into the storyline about how a previous expedition caused all sorts of problems with guns and hence why they aren't in the survival game.

As a result, the folks who didn't die of disease were eaten by fish. I think if anything their anti-gun stances proves why guns are a good idea especially on an alien planet.
Electric Cupcake 21/abr./2024 às 12:37 
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Aren't most FPSes basically right wing masturbation fantasies of one man with a gun fixing everything that is wrong with the world? (within the limited single route corridor they get to run along in that particular game)

That's not a bad point. Except for that last statement, idk what that is about.

https://imgur.com/BITmX

Duke Nukem was a parody of right wing fantasies. Except in the original, when he was couch potato who was pissed that Oprah was interrupted.
Haiku's Knife 21/abr./2024 às 12:38 
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Free access to guns/weapons is right-wing. Heavily restricting who can own a gun and which type of gun is typically left-wing perspective.

And of course there's always going to be outliers but that doesn't change the fact that the majority of left-wingers support heavy gun/weapon restrictions.
It's "right wing" in the US. The majority of East Asia has "right wing" governments, but very strict anti-gun laws.
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