Do right wing/conservative (mainstream) video games even exist?

[Akboris]

Ive noticed that seemingly every video game to ever make it big and generate enough to create a whole franchise of games, and hell, even most one off games to see a full release, parrot left wing talking points and themes and agendas beneath the surface (with varying quality of writing of course), why does it seem like genuinely conservative video games, as in, created by or at least with the intent of supporting conservatives or right wing ideals, basically dont exist?

This is also funny given just how much pressure certain groups place on the industry to parrot specific ideals and agendas, given that the industry almost already support them.

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引用自 Holografix：

引用自 nordic：

So ideas are practices? Nice logic there.

culture is a series of practices. oftentimes people do things without understanding the underlying principles or ideas. right wing 'culture' is an expression of that misunderstanding.

Because you, being a militant leftist, obviously completely understand the right through and through and surely aren't biased in any way or form?

[Holografix]

引用自 B：

引用自 Holografix：

false. Realism is a style. History is multi-foiled as well, multiple perspectives, methodologies, etc.

Yes realism is a style too. But in the context of the game we're talking about the realism is referring to the adherence of what existed back in that time period, how it was used and so on.

Which again is enjoyed by everyone not just one political leaning which is absolutely silly.

i edited my comment: "Realism is a style. History is multi-foiled as well, multiple perspectives, methodologies, etc. Conservatism (modern) is a series of perspectives, often fictional."

There is no video game that accurately depicts a historical period. Making a claim like that is folly, imo.

[MistuhG]

Mainstream, probably not, anything that visible would get attacked and bullied and threatened into submission by the 'tolerent' left. But there are some smaller examples.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1954750/Acquitted/

If you are wondering if this has anything to do with the kid in Kenosha whom a violent left wing terrorist group tried to murder in broad daylight, you would be correct. I think they were mad he was helping the community instead of rioting and helping them set fires to hurt the innocent. Thankfully he was carrying a means to protect himself from the violent animals, and was well disciplined. He was eventually acquitted as he had done no wrong, thus the games title. A real American hero triumphing against evil. Which is what conservatism is all about really.

But the nature of the enemies in the game is symbolic of why there isn't more mainstream conservative content. Anti-conservatives are violent people, and most developers dont want to deal with that.

[Holografix]

引用自 76561197978136978：

引用自 Holografix：

culture is a series of practices. oftentimes people do things without understanding the underlying principles or ideas. right wing 'culture' is an expression of that misunderstanding.

Because you, being a militant leftist, obviously completely understand the right through and through and surely aren't biased in any way or form?

Using nomenclature and terms to label gamer anons is not a productive method of discussion. Seems like strawmanning to me.

[B]

引用自 76561197978136978：

引用自 Holografix：

culture is a series of practices. oftentimes people do things without understanding the underlying principles or ideas. right wing 'culture' is an expression of that misunderstanding.

Because you, being a militant leftist, obviously completely understand the right through and through and surely aren't biased in any way or form?

Everyone is biased. It's a ridiculous statement to ask if a person is or isn't biased. I bet you breath air! *Gasp*

[Holografix]

引用自 Little Haiku：

The reason there's less "right wing" games is because the more socially conservative you are, the less likely you are to be creative:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886907000682

Openness, divergent thinking and abstract thought are all crucial to creativity - things that all decrease the more conservative you get.

yah, this is true. hence why conservative culture is an oxymoron.

[xDDD]

引用自 B：

引用自 Holografix：

false. Realism is a style. History is multi-foiled as well, multiple perspectives, methodologies, etc.

Yes realism is a style too. But in the context of the game we're talking about the realism is referring to the adherence of what existed back in that time period, how it was used and so on.

Which again is enjoyed by everyone not just one political leaning which is absolutely silly to presume.

You are seeing "conservatism" strictly in the sense of the political party where I am seeing conservatism as in literally conserving traditional values, design, and history.
Which happens to suit a party, but as you said it is not exclusive to political leaning.

Again KCD is not a "right-winged" game (although, again, I think the devs probably are) but it is definitely conservative in the sense where it is rooted in historical culture, values, and even traditional game design and NOT changing it to fit modern agendas.

[B]

引用自 Holografix：

引用自 Little Haiku：

The reason there's less "right wing" games is because the more socially conservative you are, the less likely you are to be creative:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886907000682

Openness, divergent thinking and abstract thought are all crucial to creativity - things that all decrease the more conservative you get.

yah, this is true. hence why conservative culture is an oxymoron.

Yeah, culture is an organic thing that grows and changes over time. The conservative mind frame is to try to freeze time and prevent any new change from happening.

That just doesn't and will never work.

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引用自 Holografix：

引用自 76561197978136978：

Because you, being a militant leftist, obviously completely understand the right through and through and surely aren't biased in any way or form?

Using nomenclature and terms to label gamer anons is not a productive method of discussion. Seems like strawmanning to me.

What you don't understand words? Sorry this board doesn't allow me to upload images. I can try using emoji?

💩🤦‍♂️🤣

[B]

引用自 xDDD：

引用自 B：

Yes realism is a style too. But in the context of the game we're talking about the realism is referring to the adherence of what existed back in that time period, how it was used and so on.

Which again is enjoyed by everyone not just one political leaning which is absolutely silly to presume.

You are seeing "conservatism" strictly in the sense of the political party where I am seeing conservatism as in literally conserving traditional values, design, and history.
Which happens to suit a party, but as you said it is not exclusive to political leaning.

Again KCD is not a "right-winged" game (although, again, I think the devs probably are) but it is definitely conservative in the sense where it is rooted in historical culture, values, and even traditional game design and NOT changing it to fit modern agendas.

The forum topic is on political conservatism. If you want to argue for the contemporary definition of conservation then feel free but then you aren't really answering OP's question properly in that case. It's not a political conservative game.

[Holografix]

引用自 B：

引用自 Holografix：

yah, this is true. hence why conservative culture is an oxymoron.

Yeah, culture is an organic thing that grows and changes over time. The conservative mind frame is to try to freeze time and prevent any new change from happening.

That just doesn't and will never work.

exactly. this is the reason why there's all this 'reactive' content like 'anti-woke' because conservatism is just reactionary. it's not culturally productive.

[Holografix]

引用自 76561197978136978：

引用自 Holografix：

Using nomenclature and terms to label gamer anons is not a productive method of discussion. Seems like strawmanning to me.

What you don't understand words? Sorry this board doesn't allow me to upload images. I can try using emoji?

💩🤦‍♂️🤣

use more emojis next time.

[Intelligent Jew Businessman]

引用自 Sek-Raktaa：

引用自 Akula Sub：

why does it seem like genuinely conservative video games, as in, created by or at least with the intent of supporting conservatives or right wing ideals, basically dont exist?

Because there is no money to be made in conservatism and right wing ideals.

If you want to make money, you try to sell your product to as many people as possible and there's more progressive and left leaning people than there are conservative.

Let's look at the US as an example:

Alabama is a conservative state with a population of 5 million.

New York is a progressive state with a population of 19 million, with 8 million in New York City alone. There are more people living in one city than there are people living in an entire US state.

Now

Imagine you're a game company and your goal is to make as much money as possible, meaning you had to sell your game to as many people as possible.

What would you do?

Put in Conservative ideals to appeal to the 5 million people living in Alabama or put in progressive ideals to appeal to the 19 million people living in New York?

This is not a difficult question.

I agree with everything you say except:

"there's more progressive and left leaning people than there are conservative."

According to the last election, biden got 81 million votes (left) and trump got 75 million votes (right). Thats pretty close imo.

There are more left leaning people who play video games, probably due to age than right wing. That's why you don't see right wing ideologies in video games.

[B]

引用自 Holografix：

引用自 B：

Yeah, culture is an organic thing that grows and changes over time. The conservative mind frame is to try to freeze time and prevent any new change from happening.

That just doesn't and will never work.

exactly. this is the reason why there's all this 'reactive' content like 'anti-woke' because conservatism is just reactionary. it's not culturally productive.

Honestly I'd take it one step further on the anti-woke front cause they really need to hear it.

Woke is taking a social justice issue and making people aware of it. Woke in of itself is a social justice issue. To try to fight against woke is to make people aware of a social justice issue and thus the anti-woke are woke themselves.

They've literally just taken the culture around woke and recreated/branded woke for right wing people.

[ZZZZZ]

right wingers will have a way harder time keeping a 300people team together.. I guess those groups usually fall apart already way before that size