whats your thoughts on modern capitalism/corprate america

[adrian5909]

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[Apollo702]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Triple G:

The capitalism/corprate stuff doesn´t only happen in America.

If You go to any city center here You will find the same shops, as they´re part of bigger chains. Occasionally there will be another shop in between.

Any supermarket has the same products, except for the house brands - which are usually done by the other established brands, but cheaper - so they get some other ingredients and packaging. Exception would be the ecological stores, which have double the prices.

Medicine is done almost exclusively in China, and most products we can buy here were either in whole or in parts on a ship, while there might still be some "made in Germany" label on it, because it´s connected to the gain in value made in the country, which is not so hard to so if You buy things cheap, but labor work is expensive - and the CEO and the investors also want their share.

Capitalism is good as long as You have small, local companies. People can´t handle the corporations - as some apparently feel like little dictators then. And capitalism apparently doesn´t work when 10% of the people own 90% of everything, because it means that 90% of the people don´t really matter, as capitalism is about ownership - and making money with that ownership.

1 question, one point:

Question: I never learned where do you live?

Point: All of the raw powders are made in the same few factories in India. They then are put together in the same few factories in China.

People are fooled when they think that their meds are different in different countries. There was a time when (for U.S. residents) people might (often times illegally) get cheap drugs from Mexico and old people wanted them from Canada because they would "trust them more."

Nope! The only difference from nation to nation are the labels and the pricing.

[Acetyl]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Fajita Jim:

Capitalism only works when there is healthy competition.

There isn't.

There's a million ways to solve the issue, but corporate America will fight you with billion-dollar lobbyist and lawyers the whole way.

The problem is that they're outnumbered in some senses 100's of thousands : 1, and yet it still can't be dealt with. This suggests it's not a defect or an exploit, it's the human concept working as intended. There is also a founders effect, very gfew organizational schemes are flexible enough to stand the test of time, they have, and they block anything else from rising.

[Chaosolous]

It could use some tweaking but that's not gonna happen.

For capitalism to work you need to give people capital to work towards. In some places that seems to be operating in reverse.

[Edelweiss]

im not sure but all i can say is most are dull

[Uncle Sam]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Fajita Jim:

Capitalism only works when there is healthy competition.

There isn't.

There's a million ways to solve the issue, but corporate America will fight you with billion-dollar lobbyist and lawyers the whole way.

Also use the Boeing way No really what the ♥♥♥♥ is the Justice system doing, does any of appointed judges at least have extra protection or something? I know Boeing is a military contractor but it's getting a bit absurd.

[Triple G]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Apollo702:

Question: I never learned where do you live?

In the country which made the big mistake to not change the national anthem to this, when there was the opportunity. Hmm - the racist comments below it are concerning, which is why i say "when there was the opportunity"...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bicDDnL8FhA

Ursprungligen skrivet av Apollo702:

Point: All of the raw powders are made in the same few factories in India. They then are put together in the same few factories in China.

Fun fact: There should be some new pavement / cobbles in some city. Next to the city is a quarry. The stones of the pavement should represent the local / regional stones - like the existing ones. The stones get imported from India, because they look the same, and are cheaper than the ones from the quarry. Seems also to be the more ecological correct solution, in some country which cares about it...

[Uncle Sam]

Also a good read:
"The Powell Memorandum, also known as the “Attack on American Free Enterprise System,” is a confidential memo written by Lewis F. Powell Jr. in 1971 to Eugene B. Sydnor Jr., Chairman of the Education Committee of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. The memo was written just before Powell’s nomination to the Supreme Court and has been widely regarded as a blueprint for the corporate takeover of American democracy."

Edit another one would be:
The Crisis of Democracy: On the Governability of Democracies book by Michel Crozier, Samuel P. Huntington, and Joji Watanuki, circa 1975.

[Apollo702]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Uncle Sam:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Fajita Jim:

Capitalism only works when there is healthy competition.

There isn't.

There's a million ways to solve the issue, but corporate America will fight you with billion-dollar lobbyist and lawyers the whole way.

Also use the Boeing way :steamlaughcry: No really what the ♥♥♥♥ is the Justice system doing, does any of appointed judges at least have extra protection or something? I know Boeing is a military contractor but it's getting a bit absurd.

Plus the whistleblowers are dying!:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/may/02/second-boeing-whistleblower-dies

[Acetyl]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Apollo702:

Plus the whistleblowers are dying!:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/may/02/second-boeing-whistleblower-dies

There are tons of ways to cripple, kill, and modulate lifespan, all by covert and remote means using existing infrastructure.

[Uncle Sam]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Apollo702:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Uncle Sam:

Also use the Boeing way No really what the ♥♥♥♥ is the Justice system doing, does any of appointed judges at least have extra protection or something? I know Boeing is a military contractor but it's getting a bit absurd.

Plus the whistleblowers are dying!:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/may/02/second-boeing-whistleblower-dies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI
*Ehem* Boeing you're cool like Nintendo lawyers! I'm saying this totally not under duress ... --- ... / ... --- ... / ... --- ... / ... . -. -.. / .... . .-.. .--. -.-.-- [/spolier]

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One you can do with out the other needs a lot more restrictions. Up to you to figure it out which one is which.

[Uncle Sam]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Rumpelcrutchskin:

I think they should cut off corporations from funding political campaigns and tax them way harder then the current joke tax. They are basically running the world now at the expense of everyone else.

Like the separation between the Church and the State, would be a good place to begin. Still Corporations won't go down without fighting and weaponizing their bought politicians & "connections" among them.

[sleeps]

they say capitalism begets greed (but saying breeds greed instead sounds cool) but in the end i always say that it's the execution thing, not the system as a whole as it depends on implementation rather than the concept. it's a tool after all.

[Acetyl]

The solution will most likely be pursued and implemented via a combination of remaking the environment, and remaking the core of the human concept.