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Gat 8 Washington 2024년 5월 3일 오후 1시 02분
What's the most overrated rapper of all time
For me Kanye West is overrated ngl
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I listen to Tec, $B, Pouya, Ramirez and all the old school stuff like 2Pac, B.I.G, Bone Thugs, Easy, House Of Pain, The Dayton Family... The difference is, none of that is mumble rap and some their music is actually contextual... and I'm also a guitarist who is big into metal music.

Modern consumers and their radio music.
I don't like most of the rappers you listed except for B.I.G because if I want to learn something I read a book, I don't listen to these boring rappers who aren't wise people but pretend to be.

Yep, definitely not a musician.
Masque님이 먼저 게시:
𝖠̶̶̅𝖨̶̶̅𝖬̶̶̅님이 먼저 게시:
How in TF is it getting 300 million views and making block buster money?!

I sort of explained how in my lengthy comments above. Their fame, which includes their "views" and "likes", etc., is manufactured. It's something they paid for. Their contribution, their payment, to the initial and the ongoing (forever or until death) business arrangement is their lives. You do what you're told, for the rest of your life, and we will make you famous.

This arrangement is prevalent in rap, but also in every other popular music genre. And in modeling. And in acting. The biggest clue to whether an artist has taken the ticket is if they pose for the magazines and promos covering one eye. They have to do that. That's a non-negotiable part of the contract. And it's in anything else that confers "stardom" and fame, including YouTube "influencers". You take the ticket, you do as you're told, they make you famous, you get on the ride, but you can't leave. You pose with the humiliating outfits on. You put the required imagery and messaging in your videos. You say what you're told to say. You give up all your "you", because the price of fame and fortune is your freedom.

They explain it all in their own music videos. If you watch enough of them, you'll see that I'm not only not exaggerating, I'm kinda understating it. The fame industry has been like this for a long, long time, and the people who can confer this fame are very, very powerful, once you take their offer.

Oh I know, but they also rely on the people. No one is forcing them to make the music and many could go off on their own, make a living by branding themselves and make BETTER music if they chose too, but many don't. They also live the way they project in their music and don't mind influencing society to conform to that. I understand it's much deeper than the surface
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Boomer? Dawg I'm 26 and have been around the hood myself. I was the only white guy in the neighborhood for two years.

Not all non-white people like s*** music.

Furthermore, most of the Hallmark Dan and Pams I know who are older than me don't like it either. You feel a vibe, that's great, have you heard the lyrics or have any clue what goes into the production? No, that's why most of you figure out they aren't doing jack when you eventually go to a concert and see for yourself.
One of the best rappers to ever grace the mic is Chief Keef, and he's not a lyricist, he's what you would call a mumble rapper. I have listened to a lot of rappers, for many years, and I have come to the conclusion that the best rappers of all time are:

1. MF DOOM
2. Tyler the creator
3. Chief Keef

Tyler...? :steamsad: Just admit you like uncanny sounding stuff my guy. It's your go too, but I ain't seeing a whole lot of people agree.
Masque 2024년 5월 3일 오후 7시 12분 
𝖠̶̶̅𝖨̶̶̅𝖬̶̶̅님이 먼저 게시:
Oh I know, but they also rely on the people. No one is forcing them to make the music and many could go off on their own, make a living by branding themselves and make BETTER music if they chose too, but many don't. They also live the way they project in their music and don't mind influencing society to conform to that. I understand it's much deeper than the surface

Oh, yeah, the numbers are manufactured, but I don't mean to say they're fake.

There are actual people listening to this stuff. I can't understand why, or how *they* were influenced to listen to this stuff, but that's another part of that industry -- getting people to listen to this stuff. People get paid big money to get people to listen to the ticket-takers. But that's part of the deal -- the masters will use their unbelievably vast and varied resources to get people to listen to you, if you take the ticket.

>>"No one is forcing them to make the music and many could go off on their own, make a living by branding themselves and make BETTER music if they chose too, but many don't."

Once they take the ticket, they are indeed forced. You can't leave. Many kill themselves because of this, or go crazy, or go on drugs and overdose.

They COULD have not taken the ticket, and made their own, better music, but that's not nearly as easy or quick as instant fame and riches. That's a hard thing for many people to turn down, when it's offered.
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Chalupacabaras 2024년 5월 3일 오후 9시 57분 
Hæsel님이 먼저 게시:
One of the best rappers to ever grace the mic is Chief Keef, and he's not a lyricist, he's what you would call a mumble rapper. I have listened to a lot of rappers, for many years, and I have come to the conclusion that the best rappers of all time are:

1. MF DOOM
2. Tyler the creator
3. Chief Keef

If they're so popular, why hasn't anyone heard of them?
Hammer Of Evil 2024년 5월 3일 오후 10시 23분 
ja rule
SÜM1 i§IN myHead!!! 2024년 5월 3일 오후 10시 47분 
- Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
- Music is in the ears of the beholder.

some people that like certain CRAP are just blind and deaf :steamfacepalm:
Moogal™ 2024년 5월 4일 오전 2시 24분 
xDDD님이 먼저 게시:
Most of the mainstream, but especially Eminem

I remember(ed) some older songs around or before 8 Mile or what the movie was called. Afair some were pretty decent. Not sure of modern ones.
Gat 8 Washington 2024년 5월 4일 오후 4시 04분 
loerepoot님이 먼저 게시:
Who tf rates rappers? Is there a reviews site for them or something?
I think so, the only site I could really think of for rating music is https://rateyourmusic.com
♥Peachboy♥ 2024년 5월 4일 오후 4시 15분 
Dacron Andre Darnell Carter님이 먼저 게시:
loerepoot님이 먼저 게시:
Who tf rates rappers? Is there a reviews site for them or something?
I think so, the only site I could really think of for rating music is https://rateyourmusic.com
there's albumoftheyear.org too
Alliesaurus 2024년 5월 4일 오후 5시 01분 
Glue님이 먼저 게시:
Kendrick Lamar and J cole

Kendrick has too many uneducated meat riders that will call an underwhelming or simple bar complex. Dude is just artsy and fruity. Drake is just a meme

2pac is also highly overrated.
Nah 2pac is savage
BlueJC 2024년 5월 4일 오후 5시 08분 
Jay-z.
Frankie 2024년 5월 4일 오후 5시 21분 
BlueJC님이 먼저 게시:
Jay-z.

I heard Jay-Z has recently been slammed because somebody actually understood every word he said.
76561199681395417 2024년 5월 4일 오후 6시 40분 
Ice Spice
Masque 2024년 5월 4일 오후 7시 46분 
meow님이 먼저 게시:
Ice Spice
Another one-eye who paid for manufactured fame.

See all the symbolism in the presentation. It's all there in plain sight.
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