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What's the most overrated rapper of all time
For me Kanye West is overrated ngl
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Автор сообщения: The loathsome Dung Eater
all of them. why are you even listening to rap music?
"I don't like it, so why should you like it"
Anyone who ever sold their soul and who makes the one-eye sign in promos and videos.

The very definition of overrated. Their fame and fortune is on loan, and not for their talent, but for their fealty to their masters. They know it, too, which is why half their videos make mention of the fact that they sold their soul but hey! at least I'm rich. Which is usually just before their untimely death by either suicide or overdose. Or both. Being a slave can be depressing, even if you're swimming in other people's money.

Underrated is most of the artists on Rhymesayers Entertainment or Strange Famous Records, who don't get grammies, don't make the one-eye sign, don't have videos, promos, and album photos full of demons and imagery of themselves: a) in chains symbolizing slavery, b) broken into shards symbolizing dissociation, c) surrounded by occult and masonic imagery symbolizing their masters, and d) as robots symbolizing their status as controlled.

Any money and sales they make is because they're actually talented writers and performers, and are under their own control, and have true freedom in their art -- and in their public and private lives.

The one-eye artists have masters.

And they know there's only one way to leave, once they're in the club. But they knew what they were signing up for -- the proof is in their lyrics and videos -- so I don't feel too sorry for them.
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Ah c'mon Eminem is very very good, even if u don't like him, the majority of people who listen to music know he's one of the greatest rappers ever.
Some of his old stuff is good but he fell off very hard like 20 years ago imho
He tried to keep from growing up, it seems. Rap is a youthful endeavor, I think. It reminds me of Rage Against (now "on behalf of") The Machine, still performing, looking like an old man trying to sound like a young revolutionary. How do you do fellow kids.

I'm trying to imagine what a mature rapper would sound like. As if some great rapper achieved the age and status of, say, Johnny Cash or Van Morrison or Eric Clapton or Robert Plant or B.B. King, when they grew old and matured in their art and performance, and kept producing music that respectfully aged in accordance with their own age. Instead of trying to sound like a perpetual 25 year old.

I can't imagine it because I haven't seen it yet. An old rapper who sounds like an old rapper, and who does it justice.
Отредактировано Masque; 3 мая. 2024 г. в 18:13
All of the lils.

Lil Xan
Lil Peep
Etc...
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All of them. Rapping is not singing.

Nobody claimed it was.
Its loud poetry reading. (Its not music either)

Some do couple it with music (where they play actual instruments and then read the poem loud)
The Roots and Beastie Boys played "real" instruments. Two that come to mind. One group were Jazz musicians before they decided to do rap, the other were punk musicians who decided to do rap. Both have my respect. Another I can think of is Outkast, with a pedigree that includes Parliament and Funkadelic. Rage Against (now "on behalf of") The Machine was also an actual band playing actual rock band instruments. While rapping. Can't stand them, but it's rap none the less.

My opinion is that synthesizers, midi controllers, and turntables *are* actually real instruments, and anyone who thinks it should only be guitar, bass, drums, pianos, and vocals are simply boomer-like luddites.

Half of Johnny Cash's output was by definition, rap. That's not singing. It's talking rhythmically over a beat and instrumental track. But nobody says "that's not music, man".

I guess it's only when black people do it that it's not music?
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Drake
Or basically any autoune + mumble rapper like Future and Migos uwu


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Lil Wayne, he is actual ♥♥♥♥.
Also Nicki Minaj, maybe not known primarily as a rapper but i feel embarrassed every time she opens her mouth.


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All of the lils.

Lil Xan
Lil Peep
Etc...

See my lengthy post about the one-eye people. Those are all one-eye people, and are all vastly overrated. Their fame and fortune is not due to talent, but negotiation. They paid for it. They took the ticket that was offered, and now they have to ride the train.
If we have to be honest, any mumble rapper just by shear volume. Some of the worst sounding music, some with OK beats, where pretty much any talent that goes into the production gets little reward. It's wild to me. The hood really have forced their own economy and now you got millionaires with a .6 GPA. Rapping used to be about growing up in the hood, moving on up and bringing your family out or coming back and helping the community prosper. Can't do that when you selling schedule 1 through 6, not seeing your kids, robbing gas stations in an AMG or a Hellcat, having half your videos talking about females privates and shooting people in the head.

Great stuff. How in TF is it getting 300 million views and making block buster money?!
Отредактировано 𝚁̶̷𝟹̶̷𝙰̶̷𝙻̶̷; 3 мая. 2024 г. в 18:35
Автор сообщения: 𝖠̶̶̅𝖨̶̶̅𝖬̶̶̅
If we have to be honest, any mumble rapper just by shear volume. Some of the worst sounding music, some with OK beats, where pretty much any talent that goes into the production gets little reward. It's wild to me.

8 Grapes In My Mouth -- the result from another video "How to Make Mumble Rap"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia7vhBhgz2M

Here's the how-to video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCPwpcurYns
Отредактировано Masque; 3 мая. 2024 г. в 18:38
Автор сообщения: Masque
Автор сообщения: 𝖠̶̶̅𝖨̶̶̅𝖬̶̶̅
If we have to be honest, any mumble rapper just by shear volume. Some of the worst sounding music, some with OK beats, where pretty much any talent that goes into the production gets little reward. It's wild to me.

8 Grapes In My Mouth -- the result from another video "How to Make Mumble Rap"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia7vhBhgz2M

Essentially lol
Автор сообщения: Hæsel
Boomers don't like music and cannot feel energy so they don't understand what they call "mumble rap".

Boomer? Dawg I'm 26 and have been around the hood myself. I was the only white guy in the neighborhood for two years.

Not all non-white people like s*** music.

Furthermore, most of the Hallmark Dan and Pams I know who are older than me don't like it either. You feel a vibe, that's great, have you heard the lyrics or have any clue what goes into the production? No, that's why most of you figure out they aren't doing jack when you eventually go to a concert and see for yourself.
Отредактировано 𝚁̶̷𝟹̶̷𝙰̶̷𝙻̶̷; 3 мая. 2024 г. в 18:45
Автор сообщения: Hæsel
Boomers don't like music and cannot feel energy so they don't understand what they call "mumble rap".

By that logic anyone that isn't a 12 year old suburban white kid is a boomer.
Отредактировано Grug; 3 мая. 2024 г. в 18:45
Автор сообщения: Hæsel
Boomers don't like music and cannot feel energy so they don't understand what they call "mumble rap".

I listen to Tec, $B, Pouya, Ramirez and all the old school stuff like 2Pac, B.I.G, Bone Thugs, Easy, House Of Pain, The Dayton Family... The difference is, none of that is mumble rap and some their music is actually contextual... and I'm also a guitarist who is big into metal music.

Modern consumers and their radio music.
Отредактировано 𝚁̶̷𝟹̶̷𝙰̶̷𝙻̶̷; 3 мая. 2024 г. в 18:52
I've never understood why people like Kanye West. He made some dope ass beats, there's no denying that but his flow was wack AF to me. His bars weren't that great either.

Drake sucks too. How you gonna be a rapper Degrasi? Come on.

I used to think Lil' Wayne was pretty overrated but my opinion on that's changed over the years.

Some of the newer rappers coming up aren't my style either. I grew up listening to D12, Tupac, Biggy, Xzibit, Twista, Busta Rhymes, Eminem, Tech N9ne, Nas, 50 Cent, G-Unit, Lloyd Banks, etc. Basically the rappers of the Aughts.
Автор сообщения: 𝖠̶̶̅𝖨̶̶̅𝖬̶̶̅
How in TF is it getting 300 million views and making block buster money?!

I sort of explained how in my lengthy comments above. Their fame, which includes their "views" and "likes", etc., is manufactured. It's something they paid for. Their contribution, their payment, to the initial and the ongoing (forever or until death) business arrangement is their lives. You do what you're told, for the rest of your life, and we will make you famous.

This arrangement is prevalent in rap, but also in every other popular music genre. And in modeling. And in acting. The biggest clue to whether an artist has taken the ticket is if they pose for the magazines and promos covering one eye. They have to do that. That's a non-negotiable part of the contract. And it's in anything else that confers "stardom" and fame, including YouTube "influencers". You take the ticket, you do as you're told, they make you famous, you get on the ride, but you can't leave. You pose with the humiliating outfits on. You put the required imagery and messaging in your videos. You say what you're told to say. You give up all your "you", because the price of fame and fortune is your freedom.

They explain it all in their own music videos. If you watch enough of them, you'll see that I'm not only not exaggerating, I'm kinda understating it. The fame industry has been like this for a long, long time, and the people who can confer this fame are very, very powerful, once you take their offer.
Отредактировано Masque; 3 мая. 2024 г. в 19:01
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