Racism is mostly prelevant on Eastern-European servers.

[SvarogX]

So whatever game I play, whenever I end up with eastern european players or on CIS state servers, 9 out of 10 times, there is racism going on. Unprovoked, random racism. People throwing the N word constantly and so on.

Once I travelled to Ukraine, I experienced this myself, racists everywhere, people who hate on black people and asians for literally no reason, many of them have never even met people from there yet have a racist opinion.

I am so fed up with this and how the western world is looking away and pretends to not see this just because poor poor Ukraine is at war. So now Ukrainians can be openly racist because they are at war ?

This is a joke really and I am fed up about this. I am not even black or whatever, I am a white guy, but I never understood this sort of racism and I am not tolerating it, it just trigers me how this appears to be growing rather than people getting more open minded.

I am also not some sort of activist or whatever, just a normal dude.

[Abaddon the Despoiler]

Sounds like you're pretty racist against Ukrainians, putting them all in to one group and judging them all by the actions of the few you have met.

[SvarogX]

Publicado originalmente por Abaddon the Despoiler:

Sounds like you're pretty racist against Ukrainians, putting them all in to one group and judging them all by the actions of the few you have met.

Not all but most. I know the country pretty well and racism is well tolerated, accepted and integrated into societal beliefs there.

Publicado originalmente por Hæsel:

This is true tbh. Their youth is often drawn to neo nazism too. It transcends gaming. It's cultural for them.

https://youtu.be/fftclm7km6s?

Yes, I have noticed this, but it starts with the parenting... If the parents are complete racists...

[意味のない人生]

Publicado originalmente por Thalatos:

I am so fed up with this and how the western world is looking away and pretends to not see this just because poor poor Ukraine is at war. So now Ukrainians can be openly racist because they are at war ?

Racism is bad and shouldn't be tolerated, however, I don't think it's as simple as you say. I'm positive not everyone who is on the side of Ukraine understands the depth of racism in that area. Additionally, those that do see both issues might be prioritizing an anti-war effort over an anti-racism one for the time being. People can only spread themselves so thin.

[76561199474936232]

Publicado originalmente por Thalatos:

Once I travelled to Ukraine, I experienced this myself, racists everywhere, people who hate on asians for literally no reason, many of them have never even met people from there yet have a racist opinion.

Eastern Europe due to its location unlike Western Europe has a history dating back to thousands of years ago of being invaded and conquered by Asians. Look at images of the Mongol Empire, learn about the origin of the Black Death that killed one third of Europe. Education is key.

[SvarogX]

Publicado originalmente por UberNova津波:

Publicado originalmente por Thalatos:

I am so fed up with this and how the western world is looking away and pretends to not see this just because poor poor Ukraine is at war. So now Ukrainians can be openly racist because they are at war ?

Racism is bad and shouldn't be tolerated, however, I don't think it's as simple as you say. I'm positive not everyone who is on the side of Ukraine understands the depth of racism in that area. Additionally, those that do see both issues might be prioritizing an anti-war effort over an anti-racism one for the time being. People can only spread themselves so thin.

I am not saying that everyone is.
I am saying that racism is more prelevant now and very popular in all slavic countries, even before the war, lets leave the war out of it for now.

What makes me angry is that its being tolerated here, in fact, why would I want to support people such as Asov brigade, that is know to be a bunch of racist ultra nationalists.

[Stormer]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/236390/discussions/0/4356746316587811257/

did you just make this because your war thunder thread got locked

[SvarogX]

Publicado originalmente por Rivers:

Publicado originalmente por Thalatos:

Once I travelled to Ukraine, I experienced this myself, racists everywhere, people who hate on asians for literally no reason, many of them have never even met people from there yet have a racist opinion.

Eastern Europe due to its location unlike Western Europe has a history dating back to thousands of years ago of being invaded and conquered by Asians. Look at images of the Mongol Empire, learn about the origin of the Black Death that killed one third of Europe. Education is key.

Buhhuuu, so what ?

Europe has also always been invaded by Asians and Northern-Africans, this was ages ago and you using this to seriously justify racist with modern people thousands of years later is quite the joke of the day.

So indeed, education is key.

[SvarogX]

Publicado originalmente por Stormer:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/236390/discussions/0/4356746316587811257/

did you just make this because your war thunder thread got locked

No.

[Xautos]

Publicado originalmente por Thalatos:

Not all but most. I know the country pretty well and racism is well tolerated, accepted and integrated into societal beliefs there.

not most, but a few.

you only met a few and generalising on the rest in the hopes to make it stick. you don't know it's a societal norm. Furthering the point your example of generalising is based on your claim is your experience in Ukraine and yet you say it's an Eastern Europe thing.

Let's assume for the argument you are right and most of them are like this, You think every nation from Russia to Turkey, Turkey to Albania and Croatia to Poland and every nation in between are all filled with racists?

that's a lot of generalising to an unrealistic amount when you have literally only met a few to make your basis off.

[76561199474936232]

Publicado originalmente por Thalatos:

Publicado originalmente por Rivers:

Eastern Europe due to its location unlike Western Europe has a history dating back to thousands of years ago of being invaded and conquered by Asians. Look at images of the Mongol Empire, learn about the origin of the Black Death that killed one third of Europe. Education is key.

Buhhuuu, so what ?

Europe has also always been invaded by Asians and Northern-Africans, this was ages ago

So indeed, education is key.

They're still being invaded. In fact they're more North African than ever before because of modern day invasions (minus Spain).

[SvarogX]

Publicado originalmente por Xautos:

Publicado originalmente por Thalatos:

Not all but most. I know the country pretty well and racism is well tolerated, accepted and integrated into societal beliefs there.

not most, but a few.

you only met a few and generalising on the rest in the hopes to make it stick. you don't know it's a societal norm. Furthering the point your example of generalising is based on your claim is your experience in Ukraine and yet you say it's an Eastern Europe thing.

Let's assume for the argument you are right and most of them are like this, You think every nation from Russia to Turkey, Turkey to Albania and Croatia to Poland and every nation in between are all filled with racists?

that's a lot of generalising to an unrealistic amount when you have literally only met a few to make your basis off.

This is how science works my dude. You don't need to speak to every person in a country to come to a result.

You don't know me, I have travelled a hell a lot, I lived in Ukraine and stayed and worked in multiple other eastern european countries, not last but not least my wife is from an eastern european country. Basically every individual there was racist, except for 1 or 2 exceptions.

I am not generalising anything, if you would know these countries and talk to people about this, and they get comfortable with you and let down their cover, you would know. But you dont.

I talked to thousands of people there btw.

[Abaddon the Despoiler]

Publicado originalmente por Thalatos:

Buhhuuu, so what ?

Europe has also always been invaded by Asians and Northern-Africans, this was ages ago and you using this to seriously justify racist with modern people thousands of years later is quite the joke of the day.

It's almost like black people crying about slavery all the time.

[SvarogX]

Publicado originalmente por Rivers:

Publicado originalmente por Thalatos:

Buhhuuu, so what ?

Europe has also always been invaded by Asians and Northern-Africans, this was ages ago

So indeed, education is key.

They're still being invaded. In fact they're more North African than ever before because of modern day invasions (minus Spain).

You are not even making a point other than " racism is alright because they had issues with asians thousands of years ago ".

And no, they are not being invaded by asians nor by north africans...lol.

[Xautos]

Publicado originalmente por Thalatos:

Publicado originalmente por Xautos:

not most, but a few.

you only met a few and generalising on the rest in the hopes to make it stick. you don't know it's a societal norm. Furthering the point your example of generalising is based on your claim is your experience in Ukraine and yet you say it's an Eastern Europe thing.

Let's assume for the argument you are right and most of them are like this, You think every nation from Russia to Turkey, Turkey to Albania and Croatia to Poland and every nation in between are all filled with racists?

that's a lot of generalising to an unrealistic amount when you have literally only met a few to make your basis off.

This is how science works my dude. You don't need to speak to every person in a country to come to a result.

You don't know me, I have travelled a hell a lot, I lived in Ukraine and stayed and worked in multiple other eastern european countries, not last but not least my wife is from an eastern european country. Basically every individual there was racist, except for 1 or 2 exceptions.

I am not generalising anything, if you would know these countries and talk to people about this, and they get comfortable with you and let down their cover, you would know. But you dont.

I talked to thousands of people there btw.

Thousands out of how many in Ukraine and how many the rest of Eastern-Europe? Science indeed.

[SvarogX]

Publicado originalmente por Xautos:

Publicado originalmente por Thalatos:

This is how science works my dude. You don't need to speak to every person in a country to come to a result.

You don't know me, I have travelled a hell a lot, I lived in Ukraine and stayed and worked in multiple other eastern european countries, not last but not least my wife is from an eastern european country. Basically every individual there was racist, except for 1 or 2 exceptions.

I am not generalising anything, if you would know these countries and talk to people about this, and they get comfortable with you and let down their cover, you would know. But you dont.

I talked to thousands of people there btw.

Thousands out of how many in Ukraine and how many the rest of Eastern-Europe? Science indeed.

Are you new to life ?

When you live in a region and country, you catch the social believes there. its common knowledge that racism is perfectly accepted there.