Hate or love

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Which fuels your life? Which drives you to achieve your goals? Which accompanies you?

[Caldari Ghost]

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As a former coach in most cases hate(or negative emotions) are more powerful.

The reason is just about anybody who has become a household name has taken a number of slings and arrows. They either have been abused, discriminated against, called names, have had all manner of people close to them be dreamkillers...

This also is why celebrities and pro athletes tend to go bonkers when they finally win a championship or awards. They are reacting to all the things behind the scenes that aren't the glamorous parts that they had to endure along the road before finally breaking through.

It is that chip on their shoulder that causes them to do things above and beyond. Want to be a famous guitar player? Now play till your fingers bleed! Want to be the greatest quarterback of all time? Good! Now sneak back into the facility after practice and throw the ball thousands of extra times!

ALL people who have made it that far have powerful motivation that causes them to do something beyond the common 9-5 commoner.

are you sure its because of spite created from negative interactions with others or is it possible people desire something enough and other people simply make it harder for them?

[Knee]

What drives me will be something you’ll have to find out using your own methods, mr dataminer

[TicTacTimothy]

I'm driven to be happy, and rarely can happiness be found in hate.

[Apollo702]

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are you sure its because of spite created from negative interactions with others or is it possible people desire something enough and other people simply make it harder for them?

Hmmm. That is one heck of a question!

I have to think about what the mix really is of those factors- and of course, not every individual is the same or has the exact some circumstances.

Perhaps, the most (subjectively) accurate answer is deep down someone potentially successful knows that they have something that others don't and can pull ahead- to some point.

A great tragedy is that probably most who have gifts never fully bring them to bear. Unless someone was born with full blown mania it usually takes something external to light that fire- and most people when hit with negative stimuli crumble- so scratch the majority off the list.

There is a theory that we would have colonized space by now if every human hit their full potential- but clearly that is not the case.

Even in my life, I grew up too upper middle class and comfortable and didn't find my fire till 15 and then really went full on killer-diller in my 20's.

I will make a series of YT talks on these subjects and one example is the difference between the armies of waiters and the person making 20 million a picture is the one who made it got laughed out of 100 auditions. The waiters quit after 10.

I have frequently cited that the 6 major sharks(and virtually all of the guest sharks) experienced poverty and the rich kids who audition almost all will blow millions in funding and it is the poor applicants who are the future captains of industry as they don't have the luxury of screwing around!

So yes, there are superstars who grew up comfortable- but they aren't the norm. Usually it takes something to light that fire.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

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Which fuels your life? Which drives you to achieve your goals? Which accompanies you?

weed

Woooah, dude! Heheheh

[miakisfan]

Love and hate are two sides of the same coin.

You can't have one without the other.

[Apollo702]

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Love and hate are two sides of the same coin.

You can't have one without the other.

Yes!

It's a question of stimulation and getting things heated up.

People commonly think that if one does a good job people might like them and if they do a bad job things also will equally bottom out:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909367972

And it isn't. That is not how it works.

It is more like when one pushes enough buttons and is getting somewhere one will experience more love andhate.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909368381

Think of every famous athlete, celebrity, politician... they not only get gobs of praise- but at the same time face withering criticism, ridicule, trash talk...

What has happened is they are there because they got people hot!

[Caldari Ghost]

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are you sure its because of spite created from negative interactions with others or is it possible people desire something enough and other people simply make it harder for them?

most people when hit with negative stimuli crumble- so scratch the majority off the list.

what if they werent hit with negative stimuli and were instead allowed to work toward their goals in peace?

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are you sure its because of spite created from negative interactions with others or is it possible people desire something enough and other people simply make it harder for them?

A great tragedy is that probably most who have gifts never fully bring them to bear. Unless someone was born with full blown mania it usually takes something external to light that fire-

sometimes external pressure works the opposite way, where someone who initially wants to give something to the world and "help people" as a whole ends up deciding the people they want to help dont deserve it.

more fundamentally, someone who has enough internal pressure to motivate themselves is only going to be slowed down and annoyed by external pressure. of course this comes at no loss to those administering the negative pressure because they by nature do not appreciate what they do not already know to exist in the first place.

[Apollo702]

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most people when hit with negative stimuli crumble- so scratch the majority off the list.

what if they werent hit with negative stimuli and were instead allowed to work toward their goals in peace?

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A great tragedy is that probably most who have gifts never fully bring them to bear. Unless someone was born with full blown mania it usually takes something external to light that fire-

sometimes external pressure works the opposite way, where someone who initially wants to give something to the world and "help people" as a whole ends up deciding the people they want to help dont deserve it.

more fundamentally, someone who has enough internal pressure to motivate themselves is only going to be slowed down and annoyed by external pressure. of course this comes at no loss to those administering the negative pressure because they by nature do not appreciate what they do not already know to exist in the first place.

Those are some interesting points- and again, not everybody is the same or responds to events equally.

Mania is the central factor- and the word needs an image rehab.

Anybody who is creative, a bodybuilder or athlete, a performer, a business leader, politician, good in bed... has some degree of mania. That is what causes them to stand out and not just be another drab nobody.

To answer the last question, the majority respond to the negative- but it is possible that if the fire is strong enough, some are going to get it going on their own or more from the love side.

That is my most accurate observation.

[Caldari Ghost]

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Love and hate are two sides of the same coin.

You can't have one without the other.

i think its more related to levels of spiritual development, being stuck in the survival paradigm where hate is involved vs taking advantage of a less materially dire situation to focus on things that can only be focused on in that state

[Caldari Ghost]

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what if they werent hit with negative stimuli and were instead allowed to work toward their goals in peace?




sometimes external pressure works the opposite way, where someone who initially wants to give something to the world and "help people" as a whole ends up deciding the people they want to help dont deserve it.

more fundamentally, someone who has enough internal pressure to motivate themselves is only going to be slowed down and annoyed by external pressure. of course this comes at no loss to those administering the negative pressure because they by nature do not appreciate what they do not already know to exist in the first place.

Mania is the central factor

agreed, and that is what makes the process completely independent from the actions of others, which is why it is intensely frustrating to see those who are only driven to criticize try and take (direct or indirect) credit for the accomplishments of those they decided to attack.

[Acetyl]

They're both illusions that you have to occasionally synthesize in the mind and body to get them to move. The love vs fear ascension framework, much like the light vs dark and left vs right, is a form of poison. Whether it be early childhood development, family of origin, genetics, or the manner in which someone reincarnated, people who comprehend, seek, and ultimately fall for the "love and light" stuff are being tricked. Much like a moth smashing itself against a light bulb, or a sea creature swimming towards an angler fish's lantern. Even bacteria react to and following voltage gradients around them, the polarity system, light and dark, is built into the concept of biological systems. ie things that self maintain and can act against gravity.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

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Yes!

It's a question of stimulation and getting things heated up.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909367972

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909368381

What has happened is they are there because they got people hot!

Where did you make those images?

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

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i love spaceships and trance music

wanna hang out?

[Apollo702]

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Yes!

It's a question of stimulation and getting things heated up.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909367972

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909368381

What has happened is they are there because they got people hot!

Where did you make those images?

There will be used in an upcoming YT talk about subjects such as this. The focus of one of them is that once one hits enough of a reaction they will get more intense feelings of all sorts- and to expect it.

Making things such as them is actually fairly easy with many common image programs.