WarHeRo (Ausgeschlossen) 2. Apr. 2024 um 0:48
Why do men get called "incel" for staying chaste?
throughout history, women have been praised for keeping their chastity safe. But nowadays, some groups criticize men who don't want casual relationships and prioritize their chastity. They label these men as "incels."

Why can't they just respect men's choices? Why is it so bad for men to stay chaste?
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its just one of many consequences that come from being exposed to people who value conformity above all else. dont assume there is any thought behind it.
No, men are called an INvoluntary CELibate for not being able to find partners.

It's a fairly derogatory term, especially when you consider women can also fall into the same category.

Being celibate is something different.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Yew Nough:
No, men are called an INvoluntary CELibate for not being able to find partners.
thats what it means but thats not how its used. most people just think in terms of social hierarchy and look for reasons to push down people who dont have conformity as their top priority.
Birds 2. Apr. 2024 um 0:55 
volcel invisibility
No man who has genuine prospects for sexual partners yet chooses to remain chaste is reasonably called an "incel". I would also suggest that there are not many men out there with genuine prospects who are actively choosing to remain chaste.

The word "incel" is a portmanteau. IN-voluntary CEL-ibate. Emphasis on the "involuntary" part. An incel wants and desires to have sex, but has no opportunity to do so. To put it in gen-z terms. "Bro got no rizz."

A man who wants to have sex, but has no prospects for sexual partners and decides to go all sour grapes about it and declare that they are celibate by choice is just an incel who has changed their coping strategy.
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Birds 2. Apr. 2024 um 1:00 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Haruspex:
No man who has genuine prospects for sexual partners yet chooses to remain chaste is not reasonably called an "incel". I would also suggest that there are not many men out there with genuine prospects who are actively choosing to remain chaste.

The word "incel" is a portmanteau. IN-voluntary CEL-ibate. Emphasis on the "involuntary" part. An incel wants and desires to have sex, but has no opportunity to do so. To put it in gen-z terms. "Bro got no rizz."

A man who wants to have sex, but has no prospects for sexual partners and decides to go all sour grapes about it and declare that they are celibate by choice is just an incel who has changed their coping strategy.

incels have no reproductive prospects and thus infest volcel circles like a virus.

meanwhile volcels storing seeds for future prospects, like wise farmers do.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Haruspex:
No man who has genuine prospects for sexual partners yet chooses to remain chaste is not reasonably called an "incel". I would also suggest that there are not many men out there with genuine prospects who are actively choosing to remain chaste.

The word "incel" is a portmanteau. IN-voluntary CEL-ibate. Emphasis on the "involuntary" part. An incel wants and desires to have sex, but has no opportunity to do so. To put it in gen-z terms. "Bro got no rizz."

A man who wants to have sex, but has no prospects for sexual partners and decides to go all sour grapes about it and declare that they are celibate by choice is just an incel who has changed their coping strategy.

Good job!

I was going to write something exactly like that and you did a better job of it.

Way to write!!
The men that criticize feminism for anything are the ones that get called incels. Modern feminism is a mere shadow of the original vision of feminism. Women contradict feminism through their own actions.
Is this bait?

Being incel is not chastity.

The most notable trait of incels is that they hate, despise and have an extremely bad opinion about what they say that they absolutely want. Which is quite obviously insane. If you really think that women are so bad why you obsessively want one? If you reallly want a woman then how can you have such a low opinion about them? They don't make any sense.

They are also very hateful against both women and "good looking" men.

They have issuesm, it'0s not just the fact that they want to preserve their chastity safe.
If these guys were so chaste then explain this:

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q=porn+viewing+statistics&ia=web

Again, it's the sour grapes scenario. Armies of men made themselves into pariahs. They did it to themselves and now they gotta make up all kinds of gibberish to cover for it.

This one is not complicated.
Birds 2. Apr. 2024 um 1:13 
what about decades of propaganda portraying sex as a weapon in the gender wars?
Ursprünglich geschrieben von eula fridge:
its just one of many consequences that come from being exposed to people who value conformity above all else. dont assume there is any thought behind it.

I agree with this. Some people cannot fathom the thought of a man having standards for himself and declining casual sex in favor of something more real and lasting. Apparently men should always jump at sex whenever the opportunity presents itself, or there is something "wrong" with them.
They tie male promiscuity to high social status and therefore attractiveness. After all, the sexual market is dominated by those who are perceived as better. Thus those who don't get any, whether by their own failings or their choice, are perceived as 'social inferiors' and get insulted with stupid slurs.

Some people are truly beholden to this notion of personal prestige in many aspects; Material, sexual, spiritual, etc and weigh every action on a social scale. "What would my peers think?", "I can't be seen associating with [socially inferior person]", "Doing this will improve my standing with the others", etc

Luckily you don't have to participate in such primitive thinking.
Some people believe having many partners you don't care much about, damages you.

When its time to settle down. You can keep thinking "I wish they could do this or that, that no.132 could do, or that thing that 192 did.". It could make you unsatisfied with any one partner, because you expect one person to be as good as everyone else you already had.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von M a t t m o o:
Again not so sure about that Apollo...

Should also mention that, one reason I asked why about being an introvert is that, when we're younger and as someone who's a "true introvert", well... Strictly speaking the human reward system works in multiple ways and not everyone will actually have it doing the same thing.

Let's for example, you take something like an introvert with a bit of that HSP thing thrown on top of their (above average five-senses feeling/accute sensitivity), they might choose to not pursue as many relations with the opposite sex because if they do have it, then is still intense.

Some people well... Let me rephrase that, sometimes you want that intenseness.
Unless you basically lost your marbles then other times, most people don't want that.

So therefore... To look at it accurately, you would need to put things based on greater or lesser extents and have a sort of mathematical approach to it.

I would refuse to have any intimate relations with someone who wouldn't be a prospect.
Some people are like that mate... It's just they tend to stay indoors or live different lifestyles.

But I agree, the majority of people "sounding off" on such things can be as you say


You bring up some fair points.

Would it not be accurate to say that you are an exception to some of these rules though?

From what you have posted it seems like you hit some rough patches and are back on the way up. You may be in some transition phases.

I see a future for you that when you do go back on the market in full there may be more demand for you than you might be expecting.

Your stock could rise as you simply don't have the negative traits that are stopping so many men cold.
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