Statistically, as a man, is it worth it to get in a serious relationship with a woman?

[Tazor]

70% of divorces are started by women. 90% among college educated women.

Couples have intimate relations on average once a week. Only 5% of couples have intimate relations 4 or more times a week.

Most young men are currently single. Most young women are not. This is because women in general don't wan't to "marry down". They want to "marry up". As in they seek older richer men.

Despite the previous statistics, women are more likely to own an adult toy than men.

https://www.ejj-law.com/why-do-women-initiate-divorce-more-often-than-men/

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/

For the other 2 statistics, I can't post NSFW content.

[WarHeRo]

Oprindeligt skrevet af jusap:

like porn is cheating? if ur partner doesnt say theyre ok with it, its cheating. idk what else to tell these men

It's unfortunate that men can't control their sexual urges likes women can. men tend to be more sexually active than women.

It might seem like a cliché, but the reality is that generally men have more interest in sex than women. In fact, 51% of men would like to have sex at least every day compared to only 7% of women. We hear about it everywhere; stand-up comedians and sitcoms make the most of it, it’s a favourite topic at mother’s groups, and you don’t need to hang around a bar or jobsite to get an idea that this is not only the topic of a million jokes but also a big problem.

if u keep let him hangin, u shouldnt expect him not to watch pron

[Rio]

Oprindeligt skrevet af King of Gaming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt6ONP3qQo8
This is why relationships and modern dating is fundamentally broken in 2024.

He just says the same thing other dating coaches do. Maintain frame, confidence, etc. and talks about the chase. He's just saying, hunt the whole community to win the game

[Pocahawtness]

I think it's just one side of the coin, and a similar argument probably applies to both sides.
Things have changed. Relationships used to be largely about helping each other in a tough world, but the world has become easier, and relationships are no-longer a necessity. The one difference is that it seems that men are mourning the loss of that more than women. Why is that?

[Caldari Ghost]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pirate☠️Pocah:

I think it's just one side of the coin, and a similar argument probably applies to both sides.
Things have changed. Relationships used to be largely about helping each other in a tough world, but the world has become easier, and relationships are no-longer a necessity. The one difference is that it seems that men are mourning the loss of that more than women. Why is that?

men arent as good at lying to themselves?

[Crusader (Banned13x)]

Oprindeligt skrevet af WarHeRo:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crusader (Banned6x):

If I had a son, I'd tell him to not put all his eggs in one basket.

are we talking about stock investment strategies?

Every relationship is an investment. And not just of money like stock, but of time, energy, and emotions. It's an even bigger gamble.

So yes, I'd tell guys to never put all their hope into one woman. Keep meeting other women as friends, and keep them on the backburner. If things go south because the woman he's currently with dumps him as they often do, at least he knows other women and can begin again without being crushed and alone as is too often the case now.

And like I mentioned, women subconsciously prefer it when you're a man who is highly valued by many women, as opposed to them feeling like they're all you have. That turns them off and makes them view you as dependent on them.

[WarHeRo]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pirate☠️Pocah:

I think it's just one side of the coin, and a similar argument probably applies to both sides.
Things have changed. Relationships used to be largely about helping each other in a tough world, but the world has become easier, and relationships are no-longer a necessity. The one difference is that it seems that men are mourning the loss of that more than women. Why is that?

i thought that having a relationship was about having someone to share your life with? what's ur sauce for ur claim that man cry more about it?

[Pocahawtness]

Oprindeligt skrevet af eula fridge:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pirate☠️Pocah:

I think it's just one side of the coin, and a similar argument probably applies to both sides.
Things have changed. Relationships used to be largely about helping each other in a tough world, but the world has become easier, and relationships are no-longer a necessity. The one difference is that it seems that men are mourning the loss of that more than women. Why is that?

men arent as good at lying to themselves?

About what? Relationships aren't really necessary anymore. It just seems to be a small percentage of men who cling to the concept that we all must get married. Why? Who does it benefit?

[Crusader (Banned13x)]

Oprindeligt skrevet af eula fridge:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pirate☠️Pocah:

I think it's just one side of the coin, and a similar argument probably applies to both sides.
Things have changed. Relationships used to be largely about helping each other in a tough world, but the world has become easier, and relationships are no-longer a necessity. The one difference is that it seems that men are mourning the loss of that more than women. Why is that?

men arent as good at lying to themselves?

Probably. And men care more about love and families than women apparently do. Why else would women not be bothered? They probably don't consider the long-term consequences of a casual-sex lifestyle as often as men.

They'll grow old, no one will want them anymore, the attention they craved will be gone, and there will be no loved ones around them as they're entering their final years.

[Caldari Ghost]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pirate☠️Pocah:

Oprindeligt skrevet af eula fridge:

men arent as good at lying to themselves?

About what? Relationships aren't really necessary anymore. It just seems to be a small percentage of men who cling to the concept that we all must get married. Why? Who does it benefit?

in terms of maintaining modern society i think you might be right, ive never thought about this before. where im hesitant to fully accept it is where it ignores the needs we have acquired over the course of our evolution, biological and mental, and described in a holistic manner i would say spiritual as well. theres a lot of things that contribute to our health and ability to function at our peak.

[WarHeRo]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crusader (Banned6x):

They'll grow old, no one will want them anymore

lol, yes. my age limit for dating is 22.

[WarHeRo]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crusader (Banned6x):

Every relationship is an investment. And not just of money like stock, but of time, energy, and emotions. It's an even bigger gamble.

So yes, I'd tell guys to never put all their hope into one woman. Keep meeting other women as friends, and keep them on the backburner. If things go south because the woman he's currently with dumps him as they often do, at least he knows other women and can begin again without being crushed and alone as is too often the case now.

And like I mentioned, women subconsciously prefer it when you're a man who is highly valued by many women, as opposed to them feeling like they're all you have. That turns them off and makes them view you as dependent on them.

i'll keep that in mind. thx
but doesnt that increase the risk of cheating? i think its already tricky enough to be loyal....

[Crusader (Banned13x)]

Oprindeligt skrevet af WarHeRo:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crusader (Banned6x):

They'll grow old, no one will want them anymore

lol, yes. my age limit for dating is 22.

Not a bad idea. I used to think 25+, because women change a lot after their mid-20's from what I've noticed.

But honestly, women are already so "compromised" by that age these days I'm starting to think 20-23 is a better range too.

Oprindeligt skrevet af WarHeRo:

i'll keep that in mind. thx
but doesnt that increase the risk of cheating? i think its already tricky enough to be loyal....

That's definitely possible, since we're all different. In that case having female friends would serve the dual purpose of making you both more valued/secure and letting you know if your current relationship could survive temptation.

But thinking the grass is greener elsewhere is the trap a lot of women fall into, so I wouldn't recommend following that route. If a guy is a lot more attracted to a female friend than his current girl, I'd say it's best to just break it off with his gf. Better than cheating, or wasting years of both your lives in a relationship where you're already not satisfied.

[brain stew]

Luckily, at a tender young age I was given some extremely useful advice in this matter...

Don't go chasin' waterfalls, please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to. I know that you're gonna have it your way or nothing at all. But I think you're moving too fast.

[Tazor]

Oprindeligt skrevet af jusap:

divorce reasons and rates
and in terms of marriage and divorce rates, women are also the victims of marital infiledity more often.

I'm pretty sure I know the WHY behind this statistic. As I just said, couples on average have intimate relations once a week. That is not enough for a man. Not at all. When they are denied by their own wife, they will seek out other women.

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

Oprindeligt skrevet af White:

Oprindeligt skrevet af King of Gaming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt6ONP3qQo8
This is why relationships and modern dating is fundamentally broken in 2024.

He just says the same thing other dating coaches do. Maintain frame, confidence, etc. and talks about the chase. He's just saying, hunt the whole community to win the game

The point he made though is dating today is terrible because of phones and technology. The world is not connected.