What's Your Opinion of MGTOW?

[Nekoborg]

What's your opinion of MGTOW?

Men Going Their Own Way

Men who refuse to get married or make permeate commitments (especially economic commitment) to the women they date.

They might be willing to pay child support but will most likely demand genetic proof that they are the actual father. They will most likely legally demand the mother of their children give detailed account and proof of how such child support is spent with documented proof.

[Nekoborg]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Kamiyama:

It's been around for a while but a lot of the people you see who are proud to be part of the group are actually incels and aren't part of the group by choice. I think they make up all these different rules that are mean to women as a coping mechanism.

I do believe that those who are the most invested in MGTOW make it a point to point out known incells that have tried to infiltrate. These members of MGTOW don't want to be associated with incels. They will also scrutinise suspected incels and call them out if they get caught. This usually happens when an incel tries to pose as a Chad but does it in such a way that they expose themselves.

Most in MGTOW can get dates with women but refuse to be used like a simp, beta provider, white knight, captain save a ---. They will often tell other men that if women want equal rights then there is no reason to give freebies to women. They will often have enough of a selection of women to date that they do not need to date the undesirable ones or women who use men as emotional tampons or pay pigs nor will they date women with princess syndrome or silly bimbos.

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[Republic of Lamers]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Kamiyama:

A lot of the people you see who are proud to be part of the group are actually incels and aren't part of the group by choice.

These incels invading the manosphere are called Men Sent Their Own Way. They have no dating experience and are not accepted by redpillers.

[Rio]

They speak ill of them, but they are a part of them. And its not as if time spent in the community cannot change a man to no longer sell oneself for hormones.

Redpill also has other people, that exhausts one to hear. Such as people who go on and on and on, about how one group is superior to every other group.

[Fake]

What's wrong with men guarding their own wallets? Everyone should protect their wallets.

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Fake:

What's wrong with men guarding their own wallets? Everyone should protect their wallets.

"Wallets?" Steal everything
Bonnie and Clyde

That ended great!

[jisei]

dont like anyone who generalizes people. simple as. that is just a traumatic response in psychology to discriminately view a specific set of people as all the same.

im not denying pattern recognition, but seriously- with all the cultural diversity in the world, and even down to the individual differences,

not all women or men are horrible.

this is just black and white thinking, a common symptom of unwell mental health.
maybe get off your phone or computer where you browse and doomscroll of all these cherry picked videos, posts, news article of women being horrible.

women could just as easily group together all the horrible men who cheat on their wives, domestically abuse their wives, absentee fathers.

oh yeah and women are blamed for being raised by FATHERS who left them ... crazy..

and also, a greater message to men is if you dont like promiscuous women - stop engaging with them? liek that is the whole reason they have a market demand, and hence they do their job. if you guys just stopped going to strip clubs, buying prostitutes, camsites, OF, twtch streamers, corn, and tell young boys to stay away from taht stuff instead of indulging, encouraging it.

you would have less 'promiscuous' people for money?? TOT


TLDR mgtow is a smaller symptom of a greater delusion, and it often just intertwines with misogyny, reinforcing a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ world of dehumanizing others.

[Hammer Of Evil]

i think MGTOW is a cute thing. one of those 'cute' labels. 'black pill' or 'alpha male' - super cute.

kind of an immature way to deal with life.

and if they are really 'going their own way' - why do they need to inform anyone? why do they need to band together?

idk, just seems counter intuitive. obviously a bunch of people have unresolved issues regarding relationships and stuff, totally fine to be angry but using the internet as a tool for therapy is a really, really bad move.

[GunsForBucks]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Hammer Of Evil:

i think MGTOW is a cute thing. one of those 'cute' labels. 'black pill' or 'alpha male' - super cute.

kind of an immature way to deal with life.

and if they are really 'going their own way' - why do they need to inform anyone? why do they need to band together?

idk, just seems counter intuitive. obviously a bunch of people have unresolved issues regarding relationships and stuff, totally fine to be angry but using the internet as a tool for therapy is a really, really bad move.

I think it is the kind of thing you can ignore if you are success in life but suddenly hits you hard if you fail since you don't have success to hide behind anymore.

Once the shoe is on the other foot they would suddenly realize they have a problem, but not before.

Edit add - that is why I think of it as Master / Slave conditioning by society. Easy to fall into that trap with greed and pride being human.

[Rio]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Hammer Of Evil:

i think MGTOW is a cute thing. one of those 'cute' labels. 'black pill' or 'alpha male' - super cute.

kind of an immature way to deal with life.

and if they are really 'going their own way' - why do they need to inform anyone? why do they need to band together?

idk, just seems counter intuitive. obviously a bunch of people have unresolved issues regarding relationships and stuff, totally fine to be angry but using the internet as a tool for therapy is a really, really bad move.

Its fix the laws to make them better for men. Or men are on strike. And they inform men to wake guys up to the risk to their life if they get married or have kids, because the state may rob them or jail them if they lack money.

Thats all it is. Its a protest. And first level redpill is about complaining about it. And guys having the red pill rage and stuff

And later on its reaching acceptance that you are fine without a family. Or how to best cope with not having one. Getting hobbies, finding other purpose in life.

The government doesn't want this, It wants you following the dating coaches. Because the dating coaches are still about playing in the system. The trying to get the girl, or girls. The chance to have kids. The chance for the state to get your money or fill a prison quota from a false accusation.

[Knee]

You’ll need to compensate me for an opinion on MGTOW mr dataminer

[trousers]

I always get it confused with Magic: The Gathering.

[Hobbit XIII]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Nekoborg:

What's your opinion of MGTOW?

Men Going Their Own Way

Men who refuse to get married or make permeate commitments (especially economic commitment) to the women they date.

They might be willing to pay child support but will most likely demand genetic proof that they are the actual father. They will most likely legally demand the mother of their children give detailed account and proof of how such child support is spent with documented proof.

I think I should have done this and not had anything to do with my ex wife.

[White Knight]

Aren't they basically just older incels?

[Nekoborg]

Początkowo opublikowane przez White Knight:

Aren't they basically just older incels?

That question has already been answered in previous comments