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Obama Caused Polio Outbreak in Pakistan
Obama and the CIA used a fake vaccination drive as a cover to do DNA testing on Pakistani children to try and find Bin Laden's offspring.

The consequence of this fake vaccination drive is vaccine hesitancy in Pakistan, increased spread of Polio, and killings of Polio health officials.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(14)60900-4/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2813%2962196-0/fulltext

Does the end justify the means here, or was Obama seeking glory and political capital for taking down Bin Laden by any means necessary?
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DoomsDay 27 mart. 2024 la 8:15 
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Obama and the CIA used a fake vaccination drive as a cover to do DNA testing on Pakistani children to try and find Bin Laden's offspring.

The consequence of this fake vaccination drive is vaccine hesitancy in Pakistan, increased spread of Polio, and killings of Polio health officials.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(14)60900-4/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2813%2962196-0/fulltext

Does the end justify the means here, or was Obama seeking glory and political capital for taking down Bin Laden by any means necessary?
vaccine is a virus, targeting certain individual? I dont know if this is another one of those vaccine phobia.
Aikiu 27 mart. 2024 la 8:17 
oh ok
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Obama and the CIA used a fake vaccination drive as a cover to do DNA testing on Pakistani children to try and find Bin Laden's offspring.

The consequence of this fake vaccination drive is vaccine hesitancy in Pakistan, increased spread of Polio, and killings of Polio health officials.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(14)60900-4/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2813%2962196-0/fulltext

Does the end justify the means here, or was Obama seeking glory and political capital for taking down Bin Laden by any means necessary?
vaccine is a virus, targeting certain individual? I dont know if this is another one of those vaccine phobia.
No, the CIA was pretending to do a vaccine drive in Pakistan but instead they were taking DNA samples.
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vaccine is a virus, targeting certain individual? I dont know if this is another one of those vaccine phobia.
No, the CIA was pretending to do a vaccine drive in Pakistan but instead they were taking DNA samples.
"Fake vaccine drive" implies they did not administer any vaccine.

They did administer a vaccine but also collected DNA samples.
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No, the CIA was pretending to do a vaccine drive in Pakistan but instead they were taking DNA samples.
"Fake vaccine drive" implies they did not administer any vaccine.

They did administer a vaccine but also collected DNA samples.
It was a fake campaign, CIA even admitted it and essentially said "yep we did it, won't happen again."
Editat ultima dată de hypercybermegatron; 27 mart. 2024 la 8:29
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No, the CIA was pretending to do a vaccine drive in Pakistan but instead they were taking DNA samples.
"Fake vaccine drive" implies they did not administer any vaccine.

They did administer a vaccine but also collected DNA samples.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/11/cia-fake-vaccinations-osama-bin-ladens-dna
Wow, im totally 100% surprised the United States of America did something evil and affected the people of another nation to catch the terrorist they trained!
potato 27 mart. 2024 la 8:40 
thanks obama
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thanks obama
Thanks potato
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Wow, im totally 100% surprised the United States of America did something evil and affected the people of another nation to catch the terrorist they trained!
True. America helped create radical islamic extremism, especially under Ragan but Churchill and Eisenhower also played their part.
Editat ultima dată de hypercybermegatron; 27 mart. 2024 la 8:48
sleeps 27 mart. 2024 la 8:47 
i see
Postat inițial de hypercybermegatron:
Postat inițial de SlowMango:
"Fake vaccine drive" implies they did not administer any vaccine.

They did administer a vaccine but also collected DNA samples.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/11/cia-fake-vaccinations-osama-bin-ladens-dna

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2277145-cias-hunt-for-osama-bin-laden-fuelled-vaccine-hesitancy-in-pakistan/

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In 2011, it was reported that the CIA had organised a fake vaccination drive in Abbottabad, Pakistan, reportedly administering hepatitis B vaccines to babies, while obtaining DNA samples to compare with that of bin Laden’s sister, who died in the US the year before.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/11/cia-fake-vaccinations-osama-bin-ladens-dna

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2277145-cias-hunt-for-osama-bin-laden-fuelled-vaccine-hesitancy-in-pakistan/

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In 2011, it was reported that the CIA had organised a fake vaccination drive in Abbottabad, Pakistan, reportedly administering hepatitis B vaccines to babies, while obtaining DNA samples to compare with that of bin Laden’s sister, who died in the US the year before.
I'm not denying that vaccinations were administered, but even New Scientist calls it a fake vaccination drive.

"The CIA’s efforts to capture Osama bin Laden via a fake vaccination drive in Pakistan led to a rise in vaccine hesitancy in the years after the scheme was revealed."

Besides this observation, that is a good article from New Scientist that you've linked.
Editat ultima dată de hypercybermegatron; 27 mart. 2024 la 9:05
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https://www.newscientist.com/article/2277145-cias-hunt-for-osama-bin-laden-fuelled-vaccine-hesitancy-in-pakistan/
I'm not denying that vaccinations were administered, but even New Scientist calls it a fake vaccination drive.

"The CIA’s efforts to capture Osama bin Laden via a fake vaccination drive in Pakistan led to a rise in vaccine hesitancy in the years after the scheme was revealed."

Besides this observation, that is a good article from New Scientist that you've linked.
I know. I was stating by calling it a fake drive, it implies they didn't administer anything.
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