American women dating Foreign men in record numbers

[Arvaos]

Many American women are now seeking relationships abroad in foreign countries, with some citing the toxic dating scene in the U.S.

What are your thoughts on this? Have American men ruined their chances with their attitudes or are women now simply dating broadening their horizons in a global world?

[Mina]

There’s a lot of hedonism here, pleasure and indulgence at the cost of dignity, the worth of others or perhaps themselves just for pleasure. It would make sense to venture to somewhere else, untainted, I suppose

[TheHogfather]

Publicado originalmente por Not Big Surprise:

Publicado originalmente por TheHogfather:

But... Hallucinations and delusions don't HAVE to be the result from an illness? In fact, delusions is a term that would encompass dysphoria

no it wouldn't ♥♥♥♥♥
please, either stop talking about this or go educate yourself

I just looked up their definitions, gender dysphoria that is, yes it does ♥♥♥♥♥ please either stop talking or use Google. Also being complacent is the same thing as validating.

[Uncle Sam]

As per a source in regards how the dating market is atm, there's the pewresearch study:
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/nearly-half-of-u-s-adults-say-dating-has-gotten-harder-for-most-people-in-the-last-10-years/

As per woman doing that OP, my guess would be the ongoing political division across the country perhaps? Otherwise a more pessimistic answer would be, they're jumping ship before mass productions of robots start to cause even more severe collateral damage to the dating market over there, since robots of all kind will be 1st mass produced in the developed countries & nuclear states in general.

With that being said, OP do you mind linking the article or video from where you've seen that from?

[Uncle Sam]

Publicado originalmente por Juliet:

There’s a lot of hedonism here, pleasure and indulgence at the cost of dignity, the worth of others or perhaps themselves just for pleasure. It would make sense to venture to somewhere else, untainted, I suppose

Agreed

[76561199681395417]

The only reason a foreign man would date an American woman is because he wants his green card. He's not remotely interested in her.

Source: I know 4 foreign men dating American women who admitted this to me.

[Magma Dragoon]

they just want a place to stay on vacations

[Not Big Surprise]

Publicado originalmente por TheHogfather:

Publicado originalmente por Not Big Surprise:

no it wouldn't ♥♥♥♥♥
please, either stop talking about this or go educate yourself

I just looked up their definitions, gender dysphoria that is, yes it does ♥♥♥♥♥ please either stop talking or use Google. Also being complacent is the same thing as validating.

the feeling of discomfort or distress that might occur in people whose gender identity differs from their sex assigned at birth or sex-related physical characteristics

no it does not lmao
not even this simple definition

Publicado originalmente por meow:

The only reason a foreign man would date an American woman is because he wants his green card. He's not remotely interested in her.

Source: I know 4 foreign men dating American women who admitted this to me.

i know more than 10 men who didn't do it for the green card

[TheHogfather]

Publicado originalmente por Not Big Surprise:

Publicado originalmente por TheHogfather:

I just looked up their definitions, gender dysphoria that is, yes it does ♥♥♥♥♥ please either stop talking or use Google. Also being complacent is the same thing as validating.

the feeling of discomfort or distress that might occur in people whose gender identity differs from their sex assigned at birth or sex-related physical characteristics

no it does not lmao
not even this simple definition

Publicado originalmente por meow:

The only reason a foreign man would date an American woman is because he wants his green card. He's not remotely interested in her.

Source: I know 4 foreign men dating American women who admitted this to me.

i know more than 10 men who didn't do it for the green card

Oh so you mean their identity differes from the reality that others perceive? As per the definition of delusions? Sit down.

[Morkonan]

Publicado originalmente por Arvaos:

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That you didn't supply a source for your claim.
...

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/31/style/finding-love-romance-abroad.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Ah, a NYT "Style" article about trends on Tinder?

I couldn't read the full article since it's subscription gated. (Read the first page I think)


I don't really think the claim is as widespread as it may be made out to be. Most Americans are not on Tinder and only 4% of the female subscribers have paid memberships.

https://www.enterpriseappstoday.com/stats/tinder-statistics.html

So, uh... I think that the inference that should be made from this is very simple:

"The toxicity of Tinder dating in the US may be pushing some minority of female Tinder users to seek out overseas relationships."

And, honestly, the implied novelty and mystery of what overseas men may be like, their wealth, etc... may push more of that than claims of bad relationship results.

Now, a further analysis might be a bit more revealing....

These user's selections of domestic partners for dating may, indeed, be likely to result in toxic relationships. It is assumed that the frequency of those selections is much more likely to be greater than those pairings with men overseas. That may lead to selection bias when, in potential fact, ALL relationships formed exclusively through Tinder are, in fact, likely to be toxic.



There ya go. ;)

[Arvaos]

Publicado originalmente por Pirate☠️Pocah:

Publicado originalmente por MinionJoe:

The OP certainly makes some interesting suppositions.

It'll be interesting to see what these American women do once they realize they can't file Title IX complaints in Europe.

Yes they can. It just has different names in the countries of Europe.

Publicado originalmente por Arvaos:

Many American women are now seeking relationships abroad in foreign countries, with some citing the toxic dating scene in the U.S.

What are your thoughts on this? Have American men ruined their chances with their attitudes or are women now simply dating broadening their horizons in a global world?

I really think it is hopeless to speculate as to why this is happening. Maybe better to just ask the women?

My own personal feeling is that it's not so much men, rather the division in the country at the moment and the way that some states are reducing women's rights. That's not happening in Europe and it may well be a reason why some women want to leave.

That's true.

Us European men are progressive and refined.

[Unexpected]

i think it's just a natural conclusion. both men and women in america are exposed to foreign cultures either through living in a major city connected to a port, through entertainment or through meeting people online. chemistry is bound to happen if you meet a foreign person you click with and dont mind the temporary border division

[Uncle Sam]

Publicado originalmente por Morkonan:

Publicado originalmente por Arvaos:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/31/style/finding-love-romance-abroad.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Ah, a NYT "Style" article about trends on Tinder?

I couldn't read the full article since it's subscription gated. (Read the first page I think)


I don't really think the claim is as widespread as it may be made out to be. Most Americans are not on Tinder and only 4% of the female subscribers have paid memberships.

https://www.enterpriseappstoday.com/stats/tinder-statistics.html

So, uh... I think that the inference that should be made from this is very simple:

"The toxicity of Tinder dating in the US may be pushing some minority of female Tinder users to seek out overseas relationships."

And, honestly, the implied novelty and mystery of what overseas men may be like, their wealth, etc... may push more of that than claims of bad relationship results.

Now, a further analysis might be a bit more revealing....

These user's selections of domestic partners for dating may, indeed, be likely to result in toxic relationships. It is assumed that the frequency of those selections is much more likely to be greater than those pairings with men overseas. That may lead to selection bias when, in potential fact, ALL relationships formed exclusively through Tinder are, in fact, likely to be toxic.



There ya go. ;)

Good summary one thing about suscription gated articles, you can grab the link of said article and put it on the internet archive type of sites, like archive (dot) ph or archive (dot) org, thus you save a copy of the article for anyone in the internet + bypass the suscription fee blocking you from the article

[Stingray_tm]

Publicado originalmente por Joke in the Box:

What if these foreign men don't have the $$$ though?

I don't think the issue here is money. The issue probably is attitude. I don't know a single young woman, who would want to put up with QAnon crazies, MAGA chuds, trad-wife seekers or people who complain about woke video games.

[Incarnate]

Who gives a ♥♥♥♥.

[Morkonan]

Publicado originalmente por Uncle Sam:

Good summary one thing about suscription gated articles, you can grab the link of said article and put it on the internet archive type of sites, like archive (dot) ph or archive (dot) org, thus you save a copy of the article for anyone in the internet + bypass the suscription fee blocking you from the article

Yeah, there are also sites that float around that will strip that using various means. But, once I saw what it was focusing on (An "ad" for Tinder that reads "Hot Foreign Men Not In Your Area) I didn't feel like it would be worth the effort. :)