Arvaos 9.5.2024 klo 3.58
Global temperatures break records
April was the hottest month on record and the eleventh consecutive month of record heat, according to new data.

Planet is headed for at least 2.5C of heating with disastrous results for humanity, poll of hundreds of scientists finds.

Many of the scientists envisage a “semi-dystopian” future, with famines, conflicts and mass migration, driven by heatwaves, wildfires, floods and storms of an intensity and frequency far beyond those that have already struck.

How are you preparing for the coming crisis?
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Arvaos; 9.5.2024 klo 4.00
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Could I see your OG sources?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/08/world-scientists-climate-failure-survey-global-temperature

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2024/may/08/hopeless-and-broken-why-the-worlds-top-climate-scientists-are-in-despair

Thank you, I recommend editing your OP and including this in a sources subsection.

I've been seeing dramatic changes even within my lifetime, and we're now seeing extreme weather even in central North America like the ♥♥♥♥-ton of tornadoes that've been rampaging. I fear that if we don't eradicate ourselves willingly, it'll happen as a byproduct of our careless politicians

Summarised articles:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/08/world-scientists-climate-failure-survey-global-temperature

1. A poll of IPCC climate scientists reveals that a majority expect global temperatures to rise by at least 2.5°C (4.5°F) above preindustrial levels this century.
2. The scientists warn of catastrophic consequences for humanity and the planet due to this level of heating, including famines, conflicts, and mass migration.
3. The scientists cite a lack of political will and vested corporate interests as major reasons for the world's failure to tackle the climate crisis.
4. The experts emphasize the need for massive preparations to protect people from the worst of the coming climate disasters.
5. The scientists are particularly concerned about the impact on the global south, predicting a "semi-dystopian future with substantial pain and suffering."
6. Despite the grim outlook, some scientists remain hopeful that with swift action, the worst impacts can be avoided.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2024/may/08/hopeless-and-broken-why-the-worlds-top-climate-scientists-are-in-despair

1. Climate scientists are expressing despair and a sense of hopelessness about the future, with many expecting a catastrophic 3C temperature rise this century.
2. The scientists' pessimism is based on the lack of urgent action from governments to address the climate crisis, despite clear evidence of the impact of rising global temperatures.
3. The effects of climate change are already being felt worldwide, with extreme weather events leading to many deaths and widespread destruction.
4. The scientific community is increasingly frustrated and disheartened, as their warnings about the climate crisis have not resulted in the necessary action to mitigate its effects.
5. Despite the challenges, scientists continue to work in the field out of a sense of responsibility and the belief that their work can make a difference.
6. Even small increases in global temperatures can have significant impacts, with a 1.5C rise potentially affecting 140 million more people.
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Climategate emails from 1999, an e-mail from IPCC scientist to another. "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years, i.e., from 1981 onwards, and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline"

Kevin Trenberth, University Corporation for Atmospheric Research, 2009: "The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't."

There's also Glaciergate where IPCC got caught misleading people on claims the Himalayan glacier would be melted be 2035.

Anyone remember the polar bear claims? They told us they were going extinct? Well, they never had data that didn't show polar bear populations actually on the rise. From 5,000-10,000 in the 60's to up to 25,000 today.

Obama claimed the claimte was warming faster than anybody anticipated. But data showed no significant warming between 1998 and 2012. Did we suddenly stop burning "fossil" fuels between that period? OF course not.

UN reported in 2012 that glaciers in many areas of the world may be increasing.

They also claimed more hurricanes, and they'd be intenser, the fact is, we've seen the fewest, and the weakest hurricane seasons since the 1970's.

Journal of Geophysical search finds no statistically significant acceleration in the rate of sea level rise over the past 100 years. Our cities aren't actually going to be consumed by rising oceans.

Many Nobel laureates have called it out, several NASA scientists have called it out, even former climatologists have admitted they've been approached and recruited to be part of much of this research.

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A good portion of all that above was flat out wrong. But the worst part is, many of that was known to be wrong and published anyway. Much of it were intentional lies. Some were just statements made with no basis to support it (like polar bears). And I should believe their latest claims... why?

And I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what ENSO is, and how it effects climate.
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Sounds fake

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it is lol

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What a load of crap lol. The climate clowns have been lying about this stuff for decades. First we would all freeze to death and now we're all going to burn. FFS you'd have to be an imbecile to believe such nonsense. In the future when none of these bogus predictions occur you will still say dumb things like solar panels and electric cars solved the climate crisis when in fact it made no difference at all.

Just political divide-and-conquer bots; pay no attention to them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory

People still think MKUltra is a conspiracy theory, not a documented government project run by the CIA in the 1950's with the goal of influencing people with brainwashing. This is what that research led to- social engineering tactics by muddying the waters of reality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKUltra

Data doesn't use hyperbole- it's there when you're ready to read it, and it will be uncaring of your opinion

The biggest problem with with your argument is the last link you provided. Anyone who knows anything about Wikipedia knows that all you have to do to edit pages there is to donate. Anyone. That includes people who aren't scientists.

Does anyone here know that Al Gore runs a solar panel company? How many other of the climate nutters do you think have money in those businesses or run them as well?

The 2 biggest reasons climate change is being talked about is money and power (or power and money). Notice it is mainly the Liberals in the U.S. that talk about it while their actual policies slowly destroy the country. They excel at distracting you with their words as opposed to their deeds.

There is one universal truth regarding anything no matter what you believe ... follow the money and at the end you'll find the truth. I hope to God those of you who believe all this aren't poring your money into the cause.

... or maybe I do. I need a good laugh and that'll be the perfect reason to do it.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on miakisfan; 13.5.2024 klo 2.15
Climate change is evident but it is A PERIODICAL PHENOMENON for the last 600000 years at least. It isn't happening BECAUSE OF humans nor carbons. It has been explained in detail by the Milankovitch Cycles. Until June 2025, the overall Earth temperatures will continue to rise, it is inevitable. Then it will begin to fall. It is ALSO inevitable. It is not related to the farts of cows nor our "damned" petroleum cars.

However, despite this scientific reality, the Glo.balist Cartel seeks to bring a Singlehanded Worldwide Order which works through Digital Fascism, and want to give the RULING POWER to a few ultra rich oligarchs over 8+ billion MODERNIZED SLAVES who need a QR code to access the civilization, by using the current climate cycle as an opportunity to materialize their own nefarious purposes.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on ☎need4naiim☎; 13.5.2024 klo 3.02
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Climate change is evident but it is A PERIODICAL PHENOMENON for the last 600000 years at least. It isn't happening BECAUSE OF humans nor carbons. It has been explained in detail by the Milankovitch Cycles. Until June 2025, the overall Earth temperatures will continue to rise, it is inevitable. Then it will begin to fall. It is ALSO inevitable. It is not related to the farts of cows nor our "damned" petroleum cars.

However, despite this scientific reality, the Glo.balist Cartel seeks to bring a Singlehanded Worldwide Order which works through Digital Fascism, and want to give the RULING POWER to a few ultra rich oligarchs over 8+ billion MODERNIZED SLAVES who need a QR code to access the civilization, by using the current climate cycle as an opportunity to materialize their own nefarious purposes.

O.k. children here we´ve the more nutty case of totally made up mumbo jumbo thrown in the brain mixer. Who are these "Globalist Cartels"? nobody knows. And since not even totalitarian dictatorships like Russia or China can reliably count on their power structure it´s (of course) just the more brain farty section of the internet who believes in all sorts of made up rubbish.

In this dimension CO² is the global thermostat and no matter how ofter those 2008 talking points´re resureceted: they´re made up nonesense. Basic 6th grade physics can prove this.
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The 2 biggest reasons climate change is being talked about is money and power

Money and power of the fossil fuel companies and countries heavily dependent on the revenue generated by exporting oil and gas.

In this dimension reneweables´re miniscule in comparisson.
Global daily oil consumption´s north of 100.000.000 barrel per day. In the ballpark of some billion liters per day !
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Climate change is evident but it is A PERIODICAL PHENOMENON for the last 600000 years at least. It isn't happening BECAUSE OF humans nor carbons. It has been explained in detail by the Milankovitch Cycles. Until June 2025, the overall Earth temperatures will continue to rise, it is inevitable. Then it will begin to fall. It is ALSO inevitable. It is not related to the farts of cows nor our "damned" petroleum cars.

However, despite this scientific reality, the Glo.balist Cartel seeks to bring a Singlehanded Worldwide Order which works through Digital Fascism, and want to give the RULING POWER to a few ultra rich oligarchs over 8+ billion MODERNIZED SLAVES who need a QR code to access the civilization, by using the current climate cycle as an opportunity to materialize their own nefarious purposes.

O.k. children here we´ve the more nutty case of totally made up mumbo jumbo thrown in the brain mixer. Who are these "Globalist Cartels"? nobody knows. And since not even totalitarian dictatorships like Russia or China can reliably count on their power structure it´s (of course) just the more brain farty section of the internet who believes in all sorts of made up rubbish.

In this dimension CO² is the global thermostat and no matter how ofter those 2008 talking points´re resureceted: they´re made up nonesense. Basic 6th grade physics can prove this.
Fortunately, manufacturing giants like Mercedes-Benz and General Motors realized the reality behind this "Global Warming" issue and started to cancel the projects regarding the discussion point.

Give 3 years, a lot more brands will leave the bandwagon of the Glo.balist Elites that "nobody knows", not just Mercedes-Benz.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on ☎need4naiim☎; 13.5.2024 klo 6.21
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PS: Climate change is not political.

"Green Energy" tech and it's enforcement is political.

The Earth's mechanisms do not answer to presidents and laws.

I come onto this waste disposal thread and see this.

Tell me how is Ireland's work on the research for using renewable energy of near unlimited supply, being made political?

And when i see near unlimited it is because they thought out of the box and come up with a great idea. I won't tell you what it is yet.
45% of young voters unwilling to spend $10/month to fight ‘climate change’ despite it apparently being a top priority.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/03/poll_45_of_young_voters_unwilling_to_spend_10month_to_fight_climate_change_despite_it_apparently_being_a_top_priority.html
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PS: Climate change is not political.

"Green Energy" tech and it's enforcement is political.

"The Earth's mechanisms do not answer to presidents and laws.
Sen. Tuberville: Oh, the climate, yeah. Oh, it’s biggest hoax in the world. I mean, it’s all a money grab… We come in here at our budgets about near 5 trillion a year. What we run on, we’ve spent since I’ve been here, and I hadn’t voted for any of $7 trillion more than that since we’ve been here. Right. I would say 25% of that, Steve, has gone to climate change. I mean, it is the biggest hoax in the world. I mean, you’ve got this clown Kerry. That John Kerry. He doesn’t know what day it is most of the time. I think he’s right behind Joe Biden, and he’s pushed this narrative along with these money grabbers like Clinton and Gore and all the Democrats. I mean, it is all a money grab. This EV car system, you’re seeing it now. It’s crashing, crashing, burning. They can’t get anything out of the solar, or wind."
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Anyone remember like a year or so ago they were claiming it was the hottest year on record? I mean, they do it every year and it's false every year but I also notice their records stop abruptly at 1979... Can anyone guess why that may be?
It's not wrong every year, it gets hotter every year, which means there's a new record every year.

It is very simple.
It is very simple. The hottest recorded date in 1913. 134.4

We haven't broken the hottest day in over a 100 years.
yeah no is just that many bugs are like gone oO

temps are rather mild and unspectecular in the biome im risiding which is freakin Southern freakin Germany

freakin :)

Imagine there is like flash hails in the future and streets are littered with bodies and like a snow plow has to clear that mess

woah
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I come onto this waste disposal thread and see this.

Tell me how is Ireland's work on the research for using renewable energy of near unlimited supply, being made political?

And when i see near unlimited it is because they thought out of the box and come up with a great idea. I won't tell you what it is yet.
"Green Energy" tech (like electric cars) heavily rely on electricity that is generated by using fossil fuels.

We're at a point (in the US) where our power grid is being pushed to its limit because we cannot produce enough electricity to accommodate "Green" products.
so u cant afford to use gas based cars and u cant afford to use electric ones.. maybe the issue is the massive usage of cars?
Viimeisin muokkaaja on ZZZZZ; 13.5.2024 klo 20.41
Ignored the Irish researchers :/
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so u cant afford to use gas based cars and u cant afford to use electric ones.. maybe the issue is the massive usage of cars?
Very true; expanding public transportation would fix this, but it's not profitable
There's quite a lot of space in between a car, and government controlled transportation. Cars are so expensive because the people trying to sell you their transportation scams have made it so. Climate was just one of many excuses they used to get you to accept it. Much of it comes in the form of other regulations and fees.
It's the "Evil or Dumb" debate.

Are these folks pushing these regulations knowing that it's going to negatively impact society or are they just mindless passing laws because it feels good and they don't really know any better.
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