math is easy until calculus

[Ashes-To-Ashes]

math is actually pretty simple, you just.....oh no.....the monkies!!!!


we are the monkey invaders. give us all your brains and we will leave you in ash and tears. it is a better fate than the cheese covered fate where we cover you in cheese and laugh at you for being covered in cheese, then we harvest your organs one by one to make more cheese.

[MinionJoe]

Calculus isn't that bad.

Wait until you get to differential equations.

[bisder]

I find geometry the most difficult.

Our understanding of it is inherently flawed because of the math language we use as it's underpinning.

I always seen it for what it is/should be as opposed to what is general consensus. Tbh, geometry is what made me question our entire concept of math in the first place. Our understanding of the 1 is flimsy at best.

I won't even get started. Shout out to the romans.

[vapechimp]

In fact math is one of the easiest sciences there but it needs training to learn its language and logic. This science requires the least memorization (compared to law or medicine)

[bisder]

Originally posted by vapechimp:

In fact math is one of the easiest sciences there but it needs training to learn its language and logic. This science requires the least memorization (compared to law or medicine)

Requires indoctrination and the ability to ignore your sensory organs

[vapechimp]

Originally posted by bisder🎗:

Originally posted by vapechimp:

In fact math is one of the easiest sciences there but it needs training to learn its language and logic. This science requires the least memorization (compared to law or medicine)

Requires indoctrination and the ability to ignore your sensory organs

Compared to other sciences like medicine, math is easier. Medical students usually learn 6-7 years before graduation. Math majors graduate for 4 years and usually take something else additional because once you learn the fundamentals you don't need memorization of extra facts. It is like a natural language

[bisder]

Originally posted by vapechimp:

Originally posted by bisder🎗:

Requires indoctrination and the ability to ignore your sensory organs

Compared to other sciences like medicine, math is easier. Medical students usually learn 6-7 years before graduation. Math majors graduate for 4 years and usually take something else additional because once you learn the fundamentals you don't need memorization of extra facts. It is like a natural language

Yes, thanks for detailing my point. To conceptualize math in a way that is unique to your own observation, and not beaten in to your brain by eons of university, it would be to the betterment of the field in general.

[apathy]

My father thought calculus was easy. He did papers on it during college that had him distinctions.

I on the other hand, have Dyscalculia, and struggle with basic arithmetic.

He was part of the O-level generation. Exams back then were far FAR harder than what they are now. I remember seeing my classmates who took Math for sixth form during their A-levels come out of the exam room crying their eyes out. None of them understood the question and had a meltdown. They should see the exams my dad took. Holy S**T they were HARD.

Maths is a language. And not everyone can speak it. its not a measure of intelligence.

[vapechimp]

Originally posted by bisder🎗:

Originally posted by vapechimp:

Compared to other sciences like medicine, math is easier. Medical students usually learn 6-7 years before graduation. Math majors graduate for 4 years and usually take something else additional because once you learn the fundamentals you don't need memorization of extra facts. It is like a natural language

Yes, thanks for detailing my point. To conceptualize math in a way that is unique to your own observation, and not beaten in to your brain by eons of university, it would be to the betterment of the field in general.

Yes, math is really a language. Most people don't understand it because they never learned the language in the first place. How do you expect someone to understand anything spoken in foreign language ?

Engineers are relatively good at math because they have incentive to learn the language in their job and theory. And they end up to applied physics level. Few continue in math beyond applied levels as it becomes very boring and abstract matter. Also hard to find a job as such so they drop out in more applied areas

[bisder]

Originally posted by vapechimp:

Few continue in math beyond applied levels as it becomes very boring and abstract matter

Oh it's the best part. That is where the fun is to be had. We are scraping the surface.

[76561199648916059]

Math is simple, finding a functional use for any of it is the problem, the issue lies mostly in the inability to properly judge numbers, which has lead to countless loss of profits, in wasted product, lack of or over abundance and desirability.

Knowing you have 1 million people is easy, but guessing that you will have 30 million show up but reality is only 2 million exist is the problem that math can't seem to fix.

[Paratech2008]

I suckered at Calculus and wasn't much better with algebra. I used to be proficient at math but that was decades ago.

Getting old sucks.

[vapechimp]

I don't think trigonometry needs to be taught in high school. It is waste of time for it has zero application in life if say you will continue study law or medicine. Trigonometry has no uses to ordinary people

[vapechimp]

Originally posted by Paratech2008:

I suckered at Calculus and wasn't much better with algebra. I used to be proficient at math but that was decades ago.

Getting old sucks.

Algebra, at least high school is important because it has real life applications no matter your background. But see trigonometry is useless and they waste student's time with it in high school

[Tristin]

Calculus is easy until actual appliance

[MinionJoe]

Originally posted by Tristin:

Calculus is easy until actual appliance

See, I couldn't learn calc until I had an applied calc class.

Then I got a teacher for Calc III that assigned a quadruple integral as homework. We asked her when it would ever be used, and her answer was "in the homework".

Theoretical time travel is the only "real" time we could think anyone'd do a quad integral.