What's Your Opinion Of Teachers With Guns?

[Nekoborg]

What's your opinion of teachers with guns?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oz2ST9hO78

[steven1mac]

If police don't legally have to risk their lives to protect you, teachers shouldn't be obligated either. That being said, gun free zones do provide an excellent target of opportunity for mass casualty events. I think a teacher should be able to carry a gun if they wish, provided they get additional training. Teachers already have to have extensive background checks just to work at the school, so the likelihood of them going psychotic for no reason is unlikely, it does bring up the problem of students getting the weapon from the teacher either by force or carelessness, and that is a risk all gun owners have to worry about.

[Hobbit XIII]

İlk olarak steven1mac tarafından gönderildi:

If police don't legally have to risk their lives to protect you, teachers shouldn't be obligated either. That being said, gun free zones do provide an excellent target of opportunity for mass casualty events. I think a teacher should be able to carry a gun if they wish, provided they get additional training. Teachers already have to have extensive background checks just to work at the school, so the likelihood of them going psychotic for no reason is unlikely, it does bring up the problem of students getting the weapon from the teacher either by force or carelessness, and that is a risk all gun owners have to worry about.

you do not see any other way around having a teacher with a gun?

it does not have to be a boolean answer regardless of the 'pro' or 'anti' options put before you.

[Triple G]

Close all schools > gun free zones.

Works 100%. Problem solved, case closed.

[kingjames488]

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Close all schools > gun free zones.

Works 100%. Problem solved, case closed.

exactly! let em learn it on the streets!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQN-j_rfFp0

[Nekoborg]

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notice how attacks at schools astronomically rose after the federal legislation of schools as gun-free zones

This right here.

Not going to say that I agree with teachers having to carry them but if it cuts down the percentage of attacks on schools I'm all for it.

My problem with this discussion is that I didn't see any written commentary on the differences between legal and illegal guns. You know ... the part Liberals tend to ignore when discussing gun safety.

Let's not forget we keep hearing about an open southern border, all the illegals crossing it, and the drugs coming across as well BUT the one thing that constantly gets ignored is the illegal guns crossing the border as well.

Yeah, some of us don't forget not so little things like that ... especially since they are what is usually killing people. Oh, and can we please stop blaming the gun instead of blaming the person wielding it? A gun is an inanimate object. It requires a finger to pull the trigger 99% of the time (yeah, drop a gun and it can fire).

Until the gun haters get some common sense and start realizing how the world really works when it comes to gun usage and laws I have no ears to hear your complaints.

" My problem with this discussion is that I didn't see any written commentary on the differences between legal and illegal guns. You know ... the part Liberals tend to ignore when discussing gun safety. "

We can't force anyone to give us such comments or opinions.

You were the first person to point this out along with some other valid points.

Feel free to drop more valid points that might open the eyes of those Liberals.

[steven1mac]

İlk olarak Hobbit XIII tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak steven1mac tarafından gönderildi:

If police don't legally have to risk their lives to protect you, teachers shouldn't be obligated either. That being said, gun free zones do provide an excellent target of opportunity for mass casualty events. I think a teacher should be able to carry a gun if they wish, provided they get additional training. Teachers already have to have extensive background checks just to work at the school, so the likelihood of them going psychotic for no reason is unlikely, it does bring up the problem of students getting the weapon from the teacher either by force or carelessness, and that is a risk all gun owners have to worry about.

you do not see any other way around having a teacher with a gun?

it does not have to be a boolean answer regardless of the 'pro' or 'anti' options put before you.

I think most teacher would not carry guns, even if given an opportunity, however I see it more of a constitutional question of could they. I think they should based on that perspective, but only if there is a path of training that helps minimize the risk and shows how they would be accountable for their own weapon. It's not like a few teachers haven't had weapon before without the school knowing about it because they feared for their own safety, at least his way the school would know about it in advance.

[Hobbit XIII]

İlk olarak Nekoborg tarafından gönderildi:

" My problem with this discussion is that I didn't see any written commentary on the differences between legal and illegal guns. You know ... the part Liberals tend to ignore when discussing gun safety. "

We can't force anyone to give us such comments or opinions.

You were the first person to point this out along with some other valid points.

Feel free to drop more valid points that might open the eyes of those Liberals.

So tell me am I a liberal and does that make me soft because I do not agree teachers should be armed with guns?

And what is a liberal ?

[Tito Shivan]

Wait until the guys in charge become to the realisation that all those shooter drills and training are actually training the young generation how to operate against armed individuals also means they're teaching the younger ones how to operate against other armed individuals... Like the police.

And now they're also weaponizing the clasrooms these people habitate...

We're seeing now in the actual university protests the same measures used against active shooters played against the police forces trying to disband the protests.

Once upon a time there was a country with obligatory military service. It was also a country with a problem with home terrorism. Turned out giving military instruction to the population meant such knowledge soaked down to the same terrorist groups they were fighting.

The US are bound for some interesting times ahead. It wouldn't surprise me if in the coming years we'd see tighter and tighter gun control laws being passed (Even by red goverments)

[Hobbit XIII]

İlk olarak steven1mac tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Hobbit XIII tarafından gönderildi:

you do not see any other way around having a teacher with a gun?

it does not have to be a boolean answer regardless of the 'pro' or 'anti' options put before you.

I think most teacher would not carry guns, even if given an opportunity, however I see it more of a constitutional question of could they. I think they should based on that perspective, but only if there is a path of training that helps minimize the risk and shows how they would be accountable for their own weapon. It's not like a few teachers haven't had weapon before without the school knowing about it because they feared for their own safety, at least his way the school would know about it in advance.

that I can understand, that makes sense.
I disagree with it but that is what I consider a strong case as you put it correctly (in my opinion) the constitutional question.

[Hobbit XIII]

İlk olarak Nekoborg tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Hobbit XIII tarafından gönderildi:

So tell me am I a liberal and does that make me soft because I do not agree teachers should be armed with guns?

And what is a liberal ?

I suspect you already know the answers to both questions.

I want to read your perspective and if that brush your painting people with is accurate to me at all.

[Kobs]

Anyone can be an asset if there's a threat in a school as long as you "TRAINED" for it. just having a gun is as dangerous as the guy coming in to kill someone. The person with no training will panic and end up hurting someone... Training is the answer, and if those teachers spent the time it takes to be prepared, I tip my hat to their courage.

[Original Cast Recording]

İlk olarak Nekoborg tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak miakisfan tarafından gönderildi:

This right here.

Not going to say that I agree with teachers having to carry them but if it cuts down the percentage of attacks on schools I'm all for it.

My problem with this discussion is that I didn't see any written commentary on the differences between legal and illegal guns. You know ... the part Liberals tend to ignore when discussing gun safety.

Let's not forget we keep hearing about an open southern border, all the illegals crossing it, and the drugs coming across as well BUT the one thing that constantly gets ignored is the illegal guns crossing the border as well.

Yeah, some of us don't forget not so little things like that ... especially since they are what is usually killing people. Oh, and can we please stop blaming the gun instead of blaming the person wielding it? A gun is an inanimate object. It requires a finger to pull the trigger 99% of the time (yeah, drop a gun and it can fire).

Until the gun haters get some common sense and start realizing how the world really works when it comes to gun usage and laws I have no ears to hear your complaints.

" My problem with this discussion is that I didn't see any written commentary on the differences between legal and illegal guns. You know ... the part Liberals tend to ignore when discussing gun safety. "

We can't force anyone to give us such comments or opinions.

You were the first person to point this out along with some other valid points.

Feel free to drop more valid points that might open the eyes of those Liberals.

Is there any evidence that school shooters have been getting their guns from illegal immigrants?

[Swarmfly]

Could be worse. Librarians are even more untrustworthy.

[Hobbit XIII]

İlk olarak Nekoborg tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak NoMoreUnderscores() tarafından gönderildi:

Is there any evidence that school shooters have been getting their guns from illegal immigrants?

A better question is how does all those illegal and unregistered guns get smuggled across the southern boarder and into the hands of violent criminals?

hang on are you saying guns are being smuggled from Mexico to the USA?

[Original Cast Recording]

İlk olarak Nekoborg tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak NoMoreUnderscores() tarafından gönderildi:

Is there any evidence that school shooters have been getting their guns from illegal immigrants?

A better question is how does all those illegal and unregistered guns get smuggled across the southern boarder and into the hands of violent criminals?

I was trying to see the connection to the OP, yours.

If you want to derail your own thread to talk about immigration & border control, I suppose that's your prerogative.