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Rio 2024 年 4 月 27 日 下午 3:23
What do you like the most About China?
Besides its cheap products it sells the world, of course.
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76561199540158642 2024 年 4 月 27 日 下午 10:43 
what i like about china is i can get all kinds of neat junk for 1.25 that comes from china, it use to be .25 cents, then it was .50 cents, then it jumped to a 1.00 , now its 1.25 but the quality is the same as the 5 dollar junk at the other places.
Y1N9 2024 年 4 月 27 日 下午 10:45 
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sigh i'll just go argue with a real ai; you're nowhere near as competent as they are.

Yeah you go do that instead of wasting my time here. Your knowledge of the 5 Classics and the daoist canon is severely lacking. There's no meat to your comments, no need for me to start talking about ziran or wu wei here since you seem to be stuck on this "moon cult" nonsense. What a joke. Hey maybe next time you can find someone who isn't actually a daoist and talk nonsense to them. They might buy it. You know, the blind leading the dumb and all that.
最后由 Y1N9 编辑于; 2024 年 4 月 27 日 下午 10:50
permanent name 2024 年 4 月 27 日 下午 10:52 
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sigh i'll just go argue with a real ai; you're nowhere near as competent as they are.

Yeah you go do that instead of wasting my time here. Your knowledge of the 5 Classics and the daoist canon is severely lacking. There's no meat to your comments, no need for me to start talking about ziran or wu wei here since you seem to be stuck on this "moon cult" nonsense. What a joke.

uh, 4 classics? water margin, romance, redroom bedroom, journey to the west?

ziran is an esoteric near-zoroastrian concept popular in the persian moon cults. some histories suggest the concept came to China as a result of those same moon cults getting kicked out.

do you want to deny persian moon worship now?
最后由 permanent name 编辑于; 2024 年 4 月 27 日 下午 10:54
Y1N9 2024 年 4 月 27 日 下午 10:56 
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Yeah you go do that instead of wasting my time here. Your knowledge of the 5 Classics and the daoist canon is severely lacking. There's no meat to your comments, no need for me to start talking about ziran or wu wei here since you seem to be stuck on this "moon cult" nonsense. What a joke.

uh, 4 classics?

ziran is an esoteric near-zoroastrian concept popular in the persian moon cults. some histories suggest the concept came to China as a result of those same moon cults getting kicked out.

do you want to deny persian moon worship now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Books_and_Five_Classics

Notice how the "Four Books" refers to CONFUCIAN texts. The Five Classics do contain texts related to daoism though, like the Shang Shu (The chapters dealing with Yao, Shun and Yu are of particular interest) and the I Ching. Swing and miss. Try again. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
最后由 Y1N9 编辑于; 2024 年 4 月 27 日 下午 10:59
Fumo Bnnuy n Frends 2024 年 4 月 27 日 下午 11:57 
That it's far away.
can they annex california and take em with em?
Violent Rainbow 2024 年 4 月 28 日 上午 12:00 
I like the wall they built to keep out people who were a threat to their country
Rio 2024 年 4 月 28 日 上午 12:33 
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I like the wall they built to keep out people who were a threat to their country

Too bad western countries haven't researched such technology yet.
permanent name 2024 年 4 月 28 日 上午 12:57 
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uh, 4 classics?

ziran is an esoteric near-zoroastrian concept popular in the persian moon cults. some histories suggest the concept came to China as a result of those same moon cults getting kicked out.

do you want to deny persian moon worship now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Books_and_Five_Classics

Notice how the "Four Books" refers to CONFUCIAN texts. The Five Classics do contain texts related to daoism though, like the Shang Shu (The chapters dealing with Yao, Shun and Yu are of particular interest) and the I Ching. Swing and miss. Try again. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

there are 4 classical texts in chinese literature,

but there are 4 books and 5 classics in confucian canon.

these are not the same thing, although the 4 classical texts often incorporate the concepts of the four books and five classics. part of what made them so successful.

the I Ching is neo-confucianist, along with the shang shu. some even accuse the shang shu of being an attempt to historically revise the works of chuang-tzu in order to portray the outer chapters as legitimate, rather than later works of questionable merit.

consequently there are only two texts in the daoist canon: the dao de jing and the 7 'inner chapters' of chuang-tzu.

it's common for people to confuse the 7 inner chapters with confucius' analects though; English publishers didn't understand the difference and doubled down on their mistake for a long time, then portrayed it as cultural imperialism rather than an obvious and embarassing mistake.

so, understandable mistake. all is forgiven in elucidation, one hopes.
最后由 permanent name 编辑于; 2024 年 4 月 28 日 上午 12:59
Choko 2024 年 4 月 28 日 上午 1:44 
Oh the OP turned into liking stuff to risk everything to defy it about correction about China.
Rio 2024 年 4 月 28 日 上午 1:56 
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Oh the OP turned into liking stuff to risk everything to defy it about correction about China.

I have no idea what you mean.
Ford 2024 年 4 月 28 日 上午 3:04 
I like Chinas size. There would be so much to explore if it was open-world videogame.
Rexali_ 2024 年 4 月 28 日 上午 3:19 
Japan, China, Korea, and every East Asian country used to have the same history known as Mongol civils. They had participated in so many wars in their history, like the ones shown in Ghost of Tsushima, Shadow Tactics, or other games. Japan, China, South Korea, and Germany weren't advanced countries until 30 years ago. But after WWII, they evolved, and now their progress rate is faster than ever. Every advanced country used to have difficult times before. Even the United States, as the most advanced country currently, used to have the darkest days in the 20th century, as you see in movies like Taxi Driver (1976) and God Father.

I don't listen to the media's propaganda. But every type of government, such as democracy, republic, capitalism, communism, federalism, etc., when you study their definition, seems completely fair and perfect on paper, and everyone of them had a logic when created. What makes a difference between governments is how they execute it, not their title. Like the Mafia 1 dialogue that said, "The world isn't run by the laws written on paper. It's run by people."

For example, despite the propaganda, many people will be against the "communist" word as soon as they hear it, but I bet most of these people didn't even read its definition on paper at least once. Communist is a word that came from communication, and its definition is that "people communicate together, and everyone works fairly and shares their wealth equally." This is the definition of communism, see?? It seems perfect and great on paper, but due to the media and propaganda these days, most people are against it.

Finally, whether China is good or not, if their people didn't meet their basic needs and possibilities, they wouldn't have enough energy and motivation and couldn't progress through technology and become so advanced. So, whatever they are, whether good or bad, they have already been provided and satisfied by their enough possibilities and basic needs to be able to become advanced.
最后由 Rexali_ 编辑于; 2024 年 4 月 28 日 上午 6:34
Auckes 2024 年 4 月 28 日 上午 3:30 
Their girls, are world-renowned beauties.

They have a very long history, complete with tradition(s) and culture.

They have discipline, values, philosophy and moral compass, unlike the vast majority of the collective west and especially, the european "union".

They have interesting cuisine (although i prefer the traditional japanese one, over the chinese, but still that is my close second).

I like their martial arts (japanese ones, also). But more than those, the supplementary self-empowerment techniques or the relaxation stuff.

Their massages. All asian countries have own traditional style (ex Indian massage, Chinese massage, Korean massage), but each one of them has unique touch.
Y1N9 2024 年 4 月 28 日 上午 7:51 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Books_and_Five_Classics

Notice how the "Four Books" refers to CONFUCIAN texts. The Five Classics do contain texts related to daoism though, like the Shang Shu (The chapters dealing with Yao, Shun and Yu are of particular interest) and the I Ching. Swing and miss. Try again. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

there are 4 classical texts in chinese literature,

but there are 4 books and 5 classics in confucian canon.

these are not the same thing, although the 4 classical texts often incorporate the concepts of the four books and five classics. part of what made them so successful.

the I Ching is neo-confucianist, along with the shang shu. some even accuse the shang shu of being an attempt to historically revise the works of chuang-tzu in order to portray the outer chapters as legitimate, rather than later works of questionable merit.

consequently there are only two texts in the daoist canon: the dao de jing and the 7 'inner chapters' of chuang-tzu.

it's common for people to confuse the 7 inner chapters with confucius' analects though; English publishers didn't understand the difference and doubled down on their mistake for a long time, then portrayed it as cultural imperialism rather than an obvious and embarassing mistake.

so, understandable mistake. all is forgiven in elucidation, one hopes.

LMAO.Factually wrong again.

The I Ching or Yi Jing (Chinese: 易經, Mandarin: [î tɕíŋ] ⓘ), usually translated Book of Changes or Classic of Changes, is an ancient Chinese divination text that is among the oldest of the Chinese classics. The I Ching was originally a divination manual in the Western Zhou period (1000–750 BC). Over the course of the Warring States and early imperial periods (500–200 BC), it transformed into a cosmological text with a series of philosophical commentaries known as the "Ten Wings".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching

The Daozang (Chinese: 道藏; pinyin: Dàozàng; Wade–Giles: Tao Tsang) is a large canon of Taoist writings, consisting of around 1,400 texts that were seen as continuing traditions first embodied by the Daodejing, Zhuangzi, and Liezi. The canon was assembled by monks c. 400 CE in an attempt to bring together these disparate yet consonant teachings, and it included commentaries and expositions from various masters on material found in the aforementioned core texts of Taoism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daozang

Neo-Confucianism (Chinese: 宋明理學; pinyin: Sòng-Míng lǐxué, often shortened to lǐxué 理學, literally "School of Principle") is a moral, ethical, and metaphysical Chinese philosophy influenced by Confucianism, which originated with Han Yu (768–824) and Li Ao (772–841) in the Tang dynasty, and became prominent during the Song and Ming dynasties under the formulations of Zhu Xi (1130–1200).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Confucianism

So a book written during the Wetern Zhou (1000-750BC), and probably the culmination of divinatory practices dating back to at least the Shang dynasty is supposedly neo-confucianist according to you while Han Yu's dates are 768–824AD. The dates don't match up now do they?
最后由 Y1N9 编辑于; 2024 年 4 月 28 日 上午 8:02
Y1N9 2024 年 4 月 28 日 上午 8:04 
Let’s clarify the points you’ve mentioned:

Four Classical Texts in Chinese Literature: The term “Four Classical Texts” is not commonly used in the context of Chinese literature. However, there are the “Four Great Classical Novels” of Chinese literature, which include “Water Margin,” “Journey to the West,” “Romance of the Three Kingdoms,” and "Dream of the Red Chamber".
Four Books and Five Classics in Confucian Canon: The “Four Books and Five Classics” are indeed part of the Confucian canon. The Four Books refer to “Great Learning,” “Doctrine of the Mean,” “Analects,” and “Mencius.” The Five Classics include “Classic of Poetry,” “Book of Documents,” “Book of Rites,” “I Ching,” and "Spring and Autumn Annals".
I Ching and Neo-Confucianism: The “I Ching” or “Book of Changes” is an ancient divination text that became a philosophical text with commentaries known as the “Ten Wings.” It was incorporated into Confucianism but is not exclusively Neo-Confucian. The Neo-Confucian movement, which began in the Song dynasty, did produce new interpretations of the "I Ching".
Shang Shu and Historical Revision: The “Shang Shu” or “Book of Documents” is another ancient text that is part of the Five Classics. There have been debates about the authenticity of parts of this text, with some scholars suggesting that certain portions might have been added or altered later. However, the claim that it was an attempt to revise the works of Zhuangzi (Chuang-tzu) is not widely supported by historical evidence.
Daoist Canon Texts: The Daoist canon, known as the “Daozang,” consists of around 1,400 texts, not just two. It includes many more works beyond the “Dao De Jing” and the “Zhuangzi” (which contains the “Inner Chapters”).
Confusion between Zhuangzi and Analects: The “Analects” of Confucius and the “Zhuangzi” are distinct texts with different philosophical focuses. The “Analects” is a collection of sayings and ideas attributed to Confucius, while the “Zhuangzi” is a foundational text of Daoism that includes both the “Inner Chapters” and additional material. There is no widespread evidence of confusion between these texts in English publishing history.
In summary, while some of your statements align with historical facts, others are less accurate or represent views that are not widely accepted in scholarly circles. It’s important to consult a variety of academic sources to get a comprehensive understanding of these texts and their contexts.
最后由 Y1N9 编辑于; 2024 年 4 月 28 日 上午 8:09
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