Male Grooming

[Arvaos]

Men, you won't get anywhere with women unless you start grooming.

That means getting your haircut at the Turkish barbers to get your hair trimmed and shaving your body hair.

Make sure you hit the gym and get a nice suit too.

I see so many guys on here complaining but if you want to meet a girl, you have to show some effort!

[Arvaos]

Originally posted by Angel:

I would have advised that women like men with a good personality but I guess with 4 billion women in the world, each are attracted to different things.

I've never heard of women being attracted to a guy based on their hairstyle specifically. Self presentation is important to some degree but over work personal grooming and it may even backfire to make you look high maintenance and vain.

However, you agree basic hygiene and presentation are important.

You wouldn't go to a job interview or a formal event scruffy, do you interact with the opposite sex in the same way?

[mai72]

I'm moving to the woods

[SanekiBeko]

How's everyone experience with Manscaped? The Lawnmower 4.0 doesn't go that good a job.

[Angel]

Originally posted by Arvaos:

Originally posted by Angel:

I would have advised that women like men with a good personality but I guess with 4 billion women in the world, each are attracted to different things.

I've never heard of women being attracted to a guy based on their hairstyle specifically. Self presentation is important to some degree but over work personal grooming and it may even backfire to make you look high maintenance and vain.

However, you agree basic hygiene and presentation are important.

You wouldn't go to a job interview or a formal event scruffy, do you interact with the opposite sex in the same way?

Respectfully, to me the question of a job interview and a formal is irrelevant as a lady is not either of those. I'm only familiar with the ladies in my social circle but most I know want a partner that can take care of them and to be loved. Hence presentation is more relevant that a man can take care of himself.

Even myself as a fashion and beauty enthusiast understand that a person should be loved not by appearances as you've mentioned as people generally do get casual at times and look different when at home/at ease such as without makeup and hair done.

If the relationship is built on appearances then it's all a facade to me.

[Kapitein Gnapmans]

Originally posted by Arvaos:

Originally posted by loerepoot:

I can believe that actually. But that means you are doing it unconsciously, or, you are being unconscious. While it can be said that therefore you are less responsible for it, it remains a problem all the same. Maybe even more because it means pointing it out to you doesn't work, the conversation will stall or derail and all that's left for me to do is wait until you have grown.

I don't think I have a definition of it, maybe I don't agree with the concept at all. I associate it with woke which is never good. Aren't you supposed to shun stereotypes? But here you are with "the modern woman".

What I want to ask you is, why did you bring that up in the first place? "Modern" does not mean "currently alive". I'm sure just about everyone understands this. Rather, it points to a specific set of characteristics. If you do not intend to do that, then you have absolutely no reason to reach for these terms.

What is woke but a vague populist buzzword? Woke is a subjective term as is modern.

I'm sure civil rights were once woke in the early 1900s but now they're written in law.

You just decided to ignore me after this, I see. Actually you already ignored what I said here and instead came up with your generic bs defense. Don't you see how weak this is? You haven't a leg to stand on. I answered your question, the least you could do is try to answer mine.

[Arvaos]

Originally posted by Angel:

Originally posted by Arvaos:

However, you agree basic hygiene and presentation are important.

You wouldn't go to a job interview or a formal event scruffy, do you interact with the opposite sex in the same way?

Respectfully, to me the question of a job interview and a formal is irrelevant as a lady is not either of those. I'm only familiar with the ladies in my social circle but most I know want a partner that can take care of them and to be loved. Hence presentation is more relevant that a man can take care of himself.

Even myself as a fashion and beauty enthusiast understand that a person should be loved not by appearances as you've mentioned as people generally do get casual at times and look different when at home/at ease such as without makeup and hair done.

If the relationship is built on appearances then it's all a facade to me.

Yes but those are long term traits you're referring to.

If you struggle to get a foot in the door with your first impression, you will never reach that stage to show those traits.

A gentleman is presentable.

https://youtu.be/FzNNMY9jq5k?si=bQKpXFXxLQf9yLBQ

[Arvaos]

Originally posted by loerepoot:

Originally posted by Arvaos:

What is woke but a vague populist buzzword? Woke is a subjective term as is modern.

I'm sure civil rights were once woke in the early 1900s but now they're written in law.

You just decided to ignore me after this, I see. Actually you already ignored what I said here and instead came up with your generic bs defense. Don't you see how weak this is? You haven't a leg to stand on. I answered your question, the least you could do is try to answer mine.

I'm not eager to go around in circles, I don't have anything to prove.

You have your opinions on modern women and dating, each to their own.

[Kapitein Gnapmans]

Originally posted by Arvaos:

Originally posted by loerepoot:

You just decided to ignore me after this, I see. Actually you already ignored what I said here and instead came up with your generic bs defense. Don't you see how weak this is? You haven't a leg to stand on. I answered your question, the least you could do is try to answer mine.

I'm not eager to go around in circles, I don't have anything to prove.

You have your opinions on modern women and dating, each to their own.

Another lame excuse. I answer your question and then you just ignore me. Whatever dude. I give up. There's no talking with people like you.

[cassette]

did the turk barbers pay for this sponsorship?

[brain stew]

There is no amount of Turkish barbers that can tame me!

[B]

Lol I like how "modern" women are the new boogieman to low confidence men

[Arvaos]

Originally posted by loerepoot:

Originally posted by Arvaos:

I'm not eager to go around in circles, I don't have anything to prove.

You have your opinions on modern women and dating, each to their own.

Another lame excuse. I answer your question and then you just ignore me. Whatever dude. I give up. There's no talking with people like you.

It's hard to have a discussion when we haven't defined what woke is or what a modern woman is yet.

As I said, they are vague buzzwords. Woke isn't a word used in a court of law as it isn't a definitive term.

[Not Big Surprise]

Originally posted by SanekiBeko:

How's everyone experience with Manscaped? The Lawnmower 4.0 doesn't go that good a job.

you didn't talk about your balls enough

[metamec]

If you've hit your 30s or 40s and are still labouring under the adolescent delusion that women are little more than one dimensional NPCs with secret unlock codes, maybe you should just give it up. Or at least have a mid-life eureka moment and recognise them as your equals instead of some prize at the end of a lonely quest.

[B]

Originally posted by metamec:

If you've hit your 30s or 40s and are still labouring under the adolescent delusion that women are little more than one dimensional NPCs with secret unlock codes, maybe you should just give it up. Or at least have a mid-life eureka moment and recognise them as your equals instead of some prize at the end of a lonely quest.

Honestly at this point it's a Darwin award scenario for ending their own genetic lines by rejecting real women and placing their own inclusion in anti women groups higher than finding a healthy relationship